@neatfeatguy: Also a lot cheaper, from what i understand. Pc gaming is becoming affordable!

@Nuck81: Well they could still release it on pc. You know, where millions of player have yet to play even the vanilla game. Come on Activision :(

@mrbojangles25: Agreed, they both seem like solid titles. Carry on!

@mrbojangles25: Aside from the vehicular combat mechanic, they are the same game. They offer a different theme, sure, but they are both games where you aim down your sight, accumulate points by either killing an opponent or reaching some kind of objective milestone. That the map is small and that the gunplay is more frantic does not change the fact that they are both fuckin millitary shooters.

And it's not about you hating one or the other, you fail to see the point. The point of the conversation is that both games are offering to go down on you The question is, are you going to go for the timid bookworm that's an history buff or the class vixen that popped a pill before excitingly getting to the action?

They both cather to the 25 - 35 years old demographic that's got 60 bucks of disposable income. So again, it's either you like chocolate or mint. Case closed.

Quick edit to add a last bit : We can agree to disagree. This is a pointless conversation. The games have some core differences and we both see them. That's all that matters.

@master1g: I think it comes down to one element discussed : An mmo is not a single player game. I played about a month of Final Fantasy XIV a few weeks back, and the game was not bad, but it clearly is build from the ground up to be a group experience. It felt weird playing it on my own. Every system in the game favors groups.

@whatwasthename: Can you describe the gameplay a bit? Maybe what you remember of the universe?

Possibly Lair? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lair_(video_game)

@Cloud_imperium: and it's looking so good!

@Treflis: They can release all the DLC content in the world, the game still remain an absolutely unplayable mess on my current rig...