[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

Which is hilariously ironic, because he's right. The body can only naturally absorb so much protein for increasing muscle (Believe its 30-40g per day depending on the person), the rest is wasted.

drj077

It is wasted. Your intestinal epithelium is only capable of absorbing so much protein intake as it is an energy rich, but depleting process. In addition, most people make the mistake of drinking protein shakes filled with carbohydrates when they work out believing that they will lose weight. The human body is incapable of such a feet. It always burns through carbohydrates first before turning to fat and muscle. Thus, all those people that desire to get "cut" or "lean", but drink carbohydrate rich energy or protein shakes will never achieve such. It takesanywhere from a half hour to a full hourfor the human body to burn through enough carbohydrates to send it into a mode in which it will burn through the jelly rolls that most Americans have around their mid-section.

[QUOTE="amigo767"]

OK, here's the thing. Your teacher is pretty much right in one respect. I think what he meant to say is that if you intake too much protein AT ONE TIME, it will be a waste since the body can only "absorb" around 30-50 g of protein at one shot (55 kg MAX for very few people based on body build and size). So, after your exercise, the most your body will "keep" is probably about 50 g. You are right that after exercise is a good time to consume protein - your muscles are short on amino acids and other nutrients due to the intense physical activity.

Basically, it is a waste to consume vast amounts of protein in one shot - in that case you will piss it all out. However, if you have a high daily protein intake, and you spread out your periods of protein consumption (instead of taking 100g at one sitting, take approx 33 g across 6-7 hrs), then the efficiency will increase regarding how much protein your body utilizes. Your teacher is right that protein is not stored - as a protein. If too much protein (protein is 4 kcal per gram - same as a carb) is taken in, the amino acids and functional groups that make it a protein in the first place will be excreted, while a lot of the energy storing parts of the macromolecule will be stored as adipose tissue (fat). So all the energy will be stored, but it just will be stored as fat rather than muscle. It's like eating chicken all day (lean white meat chicken breast) - if you continuously eat it your muscles wont become larger and you will just become fat.

Protein is basically used in muscle building since sarcomeres, the functional unit of muscle fibers, are very large and therefore require a lot of building blocks and what not, and one of protein's physiological functions is to serve as the "building blocks" of cellular components. That's why, when you exercise, you heavily exert your muscles and in response, your muscles try to adapt by becoming larger - and to become larger they need protein "building blocks".

Edit - I have something to add. Your teacher said that eating normal protein will be sufficient. This depends - if you go to the gym and work out, but stick with a "normal" protein intake, your gains will most likely be less than if you increased your protein diet. Like I said, protein serves as the building blocks for cellular structures, and some of the biggest cellular structures are sarcomeres of the muscles. So, while your teacher is wrong about eating more protein not helping for muscles, it DOES depend on whether or not you eat it in one shot (the body can only "process" so much protein at one time").

Optical_Order

Thank you, very informational. I lift religiously so this was kind of new to hear since I had always heard to stock up on the protein. Seems ridiculous how much protein I wasted a couple months ago (like 50 mg after a workout). I've recently been taking 24 mg after a workout so I'll decrease and try to space it out during the day.

I've been eating Bhot Jolokia peppers since I was 5. I later found they are the hottest peppers in the world or something

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

For the purpose of building muscle, it's wasted, which is the topic of the thread, splitting hairs doesn't change that :P

WreckEm711

You dont NEED it though, your body gets more than enough energy from the diet to work out as it is, adding more potential energy only makes people fat

OK, here's the thing. Your teacher is pretty much right in one respect. I think what he meant to say is that if you intake too much protein AT ONE TIME, it will be a waste since the body can only "absorb" around 30-50 g of protein at one shot (55 kg MAX for very few people based on body build and size). So, after your exercise, the most your body will "keep" is probably about 50 g. You are right that after exercise is a good time to consume protein - your muscles are short on amino acids and other nutrients due to the intense physical activity.

Basically, it is a waste to consume vast amounts of protein in one shot - in that case you will piss it all out. However, if you have a high daily protein intake, and you spread out your periods of protein consumption (instead of taking 100g at one sitting, take approx 33 g across 6-7 hrs), then the efficiency will increase regarding how much protein your body utilizes. Your teacher is right that protein is not stored - as a protein. If too much protein (protein is 4 kcal per gram - same as a carb) is taken in, the amino acids and functional groups that make it a protein in the first place will be excreted, while a lot of the energy storing parts of the macromolecule will be stored as adipose tissue (fat). So all the energy will be stored, but it just will be stored as fat rather than muscle. It's like eating chicken all day (lean white meat chicken breast) - if you continuously eat it your muscles wont become larger and you will just become fat.

Protein is basically used in muscle building since sarcomeres, the functional unit of muscle fibers, are very large and therefore require a lot of building blocks and what not, and one of protein's physiological functions is to serve as the "building blocks" of cellular components. That's why, when you exercise, you heavily exert your muscles and in response, your muscles try to adapt by becoming larger - and to become larger they need protein "building blocks".

Edit - I have something to add. Your teacher said that eating normal protein will be sufficient. This depends - if you go to the gym and work out, but stick with a "normal" protein intake, your gains will most likely be less than if you increased your protein diet. Like I said, protein serves as the building blocks for cellular structures, and some of the biggest cellular structures are sarcomeres of the muscles. So, while your teacher is wrong about eating more protein not helping for muscles, it DOES depend on whether or not you eat it in one shot (the body can only "process" so much protein at one time").

[QUOTE="amigo767"] Well, my bet is coming off of past nintendo and playstation games. The DS has relatively bad games compared to the PSP. The Wii has relatively bad games compared to the PS3. Gamecube had relatively bad games compared to the PS2. In terms of hardware, i'm sure that the PSP2 will be of a higher caliber than the 3DS. Sony tends to make high quality (in terms of build looks and components). Being cheap with a huge selection of mostly lackluster, simplistic, and often times childish games (wii, DS) makes it worse than something that costs a bit more but has bigger, deeper, and overall higher quality games (PSP, Xbox 360, and PS3).Ragnarok1051

The PSP didn't blow the DS out of the water game wise. In fact you'll hear the contrary very often around here. You're just making assumptions now and none of them are grounded at all in any factual manner.

[QUOTE="amigo767"]You can't see 3D on a 2D screen the 3DS is 3D but it is impossible to see it on videos because the camera that filmed the gameplay was not built to record in 3D and if they did use one to record in 3D you would have to use 3D glasses when you watched the video on your PC.

Nintendo_Ownes7

[QUOTE="amigo767"]

Is the PSP2 supposed to have a touch screen or a touch pad (like the touch pads on laptops)? I heard that there was a touchpad on the back of the PSP2, rather than an actual touch screen. If it is in fact a touch pad, then I can see a ton of possibilities. For example, while the 2 thumbs are using the controls on the front, the 2 middle fingers can be using the touch pad on the back (and the index fingers could use the shoulder buttons).

Either way, I'm willing to bet that it will be better than the 3DS. Does the 3DS even have 3D?? I saw a video of it an it just looked like a better looking DS

Ragnarok1051

Is the PSP2 supposed to have a touch screen or a touch pad (like the touch pads on laptops)? I heard that there was a touchpad on the back of the PSP2, rather than an actual touch screen. If it is in fact a touch pad, then I can see a ton of possibilities. For example, while the 2 thumbs are using the controls on the front, the 2 middle fingers can be using the touch pad on the back (and the index fingers could use the shoulder buttons).

Either way, I'm willing to bet that it will be better than the 3DS. Does the 3DS even have 3D?? I saw a video of it an it just looked like a better looking DS

starcraft