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#1 Mystikef
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Great... a drone for the CNET suits has arrived to try and shut everyone up.

I hope you are proud of yourself Casey.What you did was fine when this was a respectable site. Now you are just a tool to help the suits slide this under the rug. Way to support the destruction of a website we all loved.

Without integrity, GameSpot is meaningless. I feel sorry for the staff that got screwed by this debacle, and my appologies for the mods that are supporting this crap by locking threads and banning the outspoken. What is this? The internet-gaming version of the Third Reich?

And don't give us "this belongs in the off-topic forum" crap. Putting all the complainers in one "concentration camp" is exactly what they want to happen so no one else understands how badly this sucks.

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#2 Mystikef
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[QUOTE="Mystikef"]

Who said anything about it being by internet?

It could also have been an email sent from a home computer with a private email address.

It could have been a phone call.

It could have been a lunch meeting.

Either way, numerous inside sources (ie GameSpot employees)have given the details of meetings and the reasons over Jeff's firing. Jeff was fired for his integrity. He was fired because he would not give special reviews to GameSpot advertisers. He was the last person left in a position of power with integrity. CNET fired him to clear the way for paid reviews. It is that simple, and the evidence is overwhelming.

Besides... if it wasn't true, CNET or GameSpot corporate would just completely deny it. Yet... they are oddly silent hoping that it will all blow over and we will forget that they are willing to lie to gamers if they find it more profitable.

horrowhip

contrary to what you apparently see of the world, the world is not Black and white like that.... There may be SOME truth to it but there also may be hundreds of other underlying reasons... Sorry if that doesn't fit into your and everyone else on this forums conspiracy theories but that is how the world is.

It's only a conspiracy theory it it's untrue. The evidence is overwhelming, including the pulling of the video review that Eidos complained about.

Jeff had integrity and was fired for it. If that is acceptable in your world view, then so be it, but there is no reason to put down people who believe in something amd want something to stay uncorrupted.

The world is not black and white - yeah, thanks for stating the obvious. But the truth is always true. And the evidence of this particular truth is... well, evident.

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#3 Mystikef
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Eh, the couple hundred people that will actually read your post won't make any difference.Erkidu

That's true. It will take all gamers and fans of "GameSpot when it had integrity" to make a difference.

I can't believ that so many people are willing ot let GameSpot go so easily. CNET just destroyed everything we loved about GameSpot and I can't believe so many people are willing to just let it go.

It is the visitors to GameSpot that have the power, if we act in unison. If there are no visitors, there are no advertisers. If we take aim at advertisers, they will go elsewhere and CNET will need to rethink it's integrity issues.

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[QUOTE="xflamedemonx"]The main reasons of the firing have not bein open to the publichorrowhip

Actually it has been made public, but through anonymous GameSpot employees that are in fear of losing their jobs right before the holidays. (Nice timing CNET. Coincidence?)

Jeff was fired for his integrity. The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, and CNET and GAMESPOT'S silence is the product of guilt. They can't make a statement refuting the truth. They just want it to blow over. We should not let it blow over. GameSpot WAS the best gaming site on the internet. CNET just destroyed it.

You ACTUALLY believe the "Anonymous gamespot employee." That guy is the biggest pile of BS i've ever seen.. If you want to be "anonymous" you DON'T use the internet.... Period... IP's can be tracked so easily that it isn't even funny... If he was really a gamespot employee trying to post about it, you would see him sending anonymous letters to some publication. That way it can't be tracked...nobody should actually believe that BS story... There are so many people that would take advantage of a situation like this that it isn't even funny....

Who said anything about it being by internet?

It could also have been an email sent from a home computer with a private email address.

It could have been a phone call.

It could have been a lunch meeting.

Either way, numerous inside sources (ie GameSpot employees)have given the details of meetings and the reasons over Jeff's firing. Jeff was fired for his integrity. He was fired because he would not give special reviews to GameSpot advertisers. He was the last person left in a position of power with integrity. CNET fired him to clear the way for paid reviews. It is that simple, and the evidence is overwhelming.

Besides... if it wasn't true, CNET or GameSpot corporate would just completely deny it. Yet... they are oddly silent hoping that it will all blow over and we will forget that they are willing to lie to gamers if they find it more profitable.

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#5 Mystikef
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

[QUOTE="nobi125"]Now that Gamespot editors know they will be fired if they refuse to comply, expect all integrity to dissapear. Unless they quit like Jeff did.Ibacai

now that CNET has lost thousands of subscribers they won't interfere ever again... They now know that doing this is a HUGE No-No..... CNET loves money and a thousand subscribers is way more money than any advertiser ever gives them... Expect the reviews to continue on as normal.

A few thousand subscribers is a drop in the bucket compared to advertisers. I'm not saying it's not a start but it won't change their minds.

It is a start... but you are right. It's not enough.

A better paln would be to go after GameSpot advertisers. Make them know that putting ads here will hurt them, not help them. This will get CNET's attention.

For example:

Any game that is advertised on the main page could be given horrible user reviews and scores of 1... much like we did for Kane and Lynch.

General calls of boycotting any prodcut advertised on the main page. Especially if we do it loud enough to make the main stream news, or other gaming websites.

Gamers must work as a team to bring back the honest GameSpot we all loved. If we don't.... then say goodbye to integrity at GameSpot forever.

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The main reasons of the firing have not bein open to the publicxflamedemonx

Actually it has been made public, but through anonymous GameSpot employees that are in fear of losing their jobs right before the holidays. (Nice timing CNET. Coincidence?)

Jeff was fired for his integrity. The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, and CNET and GAMESPOT'S silence is the product of guilt. They can't make a statement refuting the truth. They just want it to blow over. We should not let it blow over. GameSpot WAS the best gaming site on the internet. CNET just destroyed it.

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#7 Mystikef
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BEcause they got caught they are the black sheep of the gaming market? How many people refused to take the 600 $ master chief gift basket as far as we know? It is sad, that people are going from gamespot, to ign, or gametrailers, which are virtually as corrupt or even more corrupt then gamespot. Look at jeff, didn't he refuse to write a good review for kane and lynch which made him fired? Doesn't it show that gamespot has more integrity then these other sites? I doubt ign would not take the 600 $ and report a topic about how bungie wanted to give 'favors' for a good review. I dobut gametrailers did it either. IT is sad, that most of the people here are whining over gamespot getting caught. These games sites that you guys are going to will be no different.

numba1234

You just don't get it.

Jeff was the guy that was in charge that MADE SURE reviews were written honestly for the benefit of gamers. He was fired because he REFUSED to bow down to the advertisers.

GameSpot and other sites are often accused of being paid for good reviews. It never happened at GameSpot until NOW. They have been caught red-handed and have fired the one person who MADE SURE the journalistic integrity stayed in tact.

This means you may not be able to trust any GameSpot review for any game ever again. If they accept money for good reviews, they could also punish developers that DON't advertise.

Thanks to CNET, GameSpot has just become a VERY DISHONEST website. You cannot trust anything they say ever again... unless they fix the problem.

Right now GameSpot is saying NOTHING, hoping that the situation just blows over. Make sure this doesn't happen, if you loved GameSpot before the corruption of it's values.

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#8 Mystikef
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okay someone please explain what the big deal is about this guy getting fired. Why do y'all care so much? i keep hearing that he was an honest critic or something like that. Are all the other critics dishonest?if someone could shed some light on the matter, that would be greatly appreciated. thanks.masterconker25

Jeff made sure that advertisers could not have influence over the reviews. That meant that we, the gamers, got honest reviews.

CNET fired Jeff because he was too honest. Advertisers get pissed when their crappy games are given an honest reviews. So GameSpot corporate and CNET fired Jeff so that they could write better reviews for big budget games - whether they deserve it or not.

Jeff was ADAMENT about not letting reviewers accept ANY GIFTS from advertisers, publishers, or developers - so reviews would stay honest. Jeff was fired because he had integrity and CNET doesn't want integrity. They want money.

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#9 Mystikef
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IT IS CNET, not GAMESPOT. GAMESPOT is the victim here. If gamespot went with it, why did Kane and Lynch get a 6? Use some logic people.lettuceman44

It is not the individual people or editors at GameSpot... we all know that. It is GameSpot corporate and CNET. They have made it clear that things will be done their way - the dishonest money-grubbing way. Jeff was honest and loved gaming. He was fired for it. Do you think the other editors, who were under Jeff, have any say on GameSpot policy? No. They are in as crappy of a situation as us gamers. Except crappier... because their livelyhood is on the line.

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#10 Mystikef
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Drink Coke then... and might as well boycott the company that made your browser coz thats how you're seeing the ads.

Get over it... i mean serious. I'm starting to question Gamespot myself but if you really hate the site.. go to IGN or Gametrailers.

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You boycott the advertiser so that they stop advertising on GameSpot, which then puts a dent in CNET's pocketbooks. Which hopefully helps them understand how badly we think they screwed up.

Why would you boycott your browser? WTF?