I don't understand the gamespot hatred?

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#1 numba1234
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BEcause they got caught they are the black sheep of the gaming market? How many people refused to take the 600 $ master chief gift basket as far as we know? It is sad, that people are going from gamespot, to ign, or gametrailers, which are virtually as corrupt or even more corrupt then gamespot. Look at jeff, didn't he refuse to write a good review for kane and lynch which made him fired? Doesn't it show that gamespot has more integrity then these other sites? I doubt ign would not take the 600 $ and report a topic about how bungie wanted to give 'favors' for a good review. I dobut gametrailers did it either. IT is sad, that most of the people here are whining over gamespot getting caught. These games sites that you guys are going to will be no different.

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#2 nobi125
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Now that Gamespot editors know they will be fired if they refuse to comply, expect all integrity to dissapear. Unless they quit like Jeff did.
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BEcause they got caught they are the black sheep of the gaming market? How many people refused to take the 600 $ master chief gift basket as far as we know? It is sad, that people are going from gamespot, to ign, or gametrailers, which are virtually as corrupt or even more corrupt then gamespot. Look at jeff, didn't he refuse to write a good review for kane and lynch which made him fired? Doesn't it show that gamespot has more integrity then these other sites? I doubt ign would not take the 600 $ and report a topic about how bungie wanted to give 'favors' for a good review. I dobut gametrailers did it either. IT is sad, that most of the people here are whining over gamespot getting caught. These games sites that you guys are going to will be no different.numba1234
Well, if this is all true and played out like it looks to have played out. No, It would show that Jeff has more integrity while GS has none.
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#4 Hoffgod
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So you're saying that because everyone else does it (as you're implying might maybe, possibly be the case) that it's okay? Because if that's what you're saying, you're wrong.
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#5 flazzle
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For me, its because the reviews and the way everyone handles the reviews on here are the best thing on GS.

Now that reviews are compromised, they took away all that fun, not to mention dishonest to us.

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#6 Mystikef
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BEcause they got caught they are the black sheep of the gaming market? How many people refused to take the 600 $ master chief gift basket as far as we know? It is sad, that people are going from gamespot, to ign, or gametrailers, which are virtually as corrupt or even more corrupt then gamespot. Look at jeff, didn't he refuse to write a good review for kane and lynch which made him fired? Doesn't it show that gamespot has more integrity then these other sites? I doubt ign would not take the 600 $ and report a topic about how bungie wanted to give 'favors' for a good review. I dobut gametrailers did it either. IT is sad, that most of the people here are whining over gamespot getting caught. These games sites that you guys are going to will be no different.

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You just don't get it.

Jeff was the guy that was in charge that MADE SURE reviews were written honestly for the benefit of gamers. He was fired because he REFUSED to bow down to the advertisers.

GameSpot and other sites are often accused of being paid for good reviews. It never happened at GameSpot until NOW. They have been caught red-handed and have fired the one person who MADE SURE the journalistic integrity stayed in tact.

This means you may not be able to trust any GameSpot review for any game ever again. If they accept money for good reviews, they could also punish developers that DON't advertise.

Thanks to CNET, GameSpot has just become a VERY DISHONEST website. You cannot trust anything they say ever again... unless they fix the problem.

Right now GameSpot is saying NOTHING, hoping that the situation just blows over. Make sure this doesn't happen, if you loved GameSpot before the corruption of it's values.

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The main reasons of the firing have not bein open to the public
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#8 Erkidu
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For me, its because the reviews and the way everyone handles the reviews on here are the best thing on GS.

Now that reviews are compromised, they took away all that fun, not to mention dishonest to us.

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Yea, I tend to feel the same way - though, I think all reviews should be taken with a grain of salt (aggregate review websites are far more accurate).
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Wait Jeff got fired how long ago was this
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Now that Gamespot editors know they will be fired if they refuse to comply, expect all integrity to dissapear. Unless they quit like Jeff did.nobi125

now that CNET has lost thousands of subscribers they won't interfere ever again... They now know that doing this is a HUGE No-No..... CNET loves money and a thousand subscribers is way more money than any advertiser ever gives them... Expect the reviews to continue on as normal.

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[QUOTE="nobi125"]Now that Gamespot editors know they will be fired if they refuse to comply, expect all integrity to dissapear. Unless they quit like Jeff did.horrowhip

now that CNET has lost thousands of subscribers they won't interfere ever again... They now know that doing this is a HUGE No-No..... CNET loves money and a thousand subscribers is way more money than any advertiser ever gives them... Expect the reviews to continue on as normal.

A few thousand subscribers is a drop in the bucket compared to advertisers. I'm not saying it's not a start but it won't change their minds.
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The main reasons of the firing have not bein open to the publicxflamedemonx

Actually it has been made public, but through anonymous GameSpot employees that are in fear of losing their jobs right before the holidays. (Nice timing CNET. Coincidence?)

Jeff was fired for his integrity. The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, and CNET and GAMESPOT'S silence is the product of guilt. They can't make a statement refuting the truth. They just want it to blow over. We should not let it blow over. GameSpot WAS the best gaming site on the internet. CNET just destroyed it.

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#13 Mystikef
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

[QUOTE="nobi125"]Now that Gamespot editors know they will be fired if they refuse to comply, expect all integrity to dissapear. Unless they quit like Jeff did.Ibacai

now that CNET has lost thousands of subscribers they won't interfere ever again... They now know that doing this is a HUGE No-No..... CNET loves money and a thousand subscribers is way more money than any advertiser ever gives them... Expect the reviews to continue on as normal.

A few thousand subscribers is a drop in the bucket compared to advertisers. I'm not saying it's not a start but it won't change their minds.

It is a start... but you are right. It's not enough.

A better paln would be to go after GameSpot advertisers. Make them know that putting ads here will hurt them, not help them. This will get CNET's attention.

For example:

Any game that is advertised on the main page could be given horrible user reviews and scores of 1... much like we did for Kane and Lynch.

General calls of boycotting any prodcut advertised on the main page. Especially if we do it loud enough to make the main stream news, or other gaming websites.

Gamers must work as a team to bring back the honest GameSpot we all loved. If we don't.... then say goodbye to integrity at GameSpot forever.

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#14 Bigboi500
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Personally I disliked Jeff's reviews but atleast he was honest. This opens up a nasty can of worms about the gamesite biz as a whole. We kind of new reviewers where lap dogs to the makers of expensive games anyway and now it's even clearer. Gamespot is not alone in these shady practices they all do it. But what can we do about it? Now we have even more reasons to distrust reviews. Who will look out for the game buyers now?
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#15 xflamedemonx
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Oh well then Cnet is on cocane what the heck are they doing

ps is cocane considered a bad word

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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="horrowhip"]

[QUOTE="nobi125"]Now that Gamespot editors know they will be fired if they refuse to comply, expect all integrity to dissapear. Unless they quit like Jeff did.Mystikef

now that CNET has lost thousands of subscribers they won't interfere ever again... They now know that doing this is a HUGE No-No..... CNET loves money and a thousand subscribers is way more money than any advertiser ever gives them... Expect the reviews to continue on as normal.

A few thousand subscribers is a drop in the bucket compared to advertisers. I'm not saying it's not a start but it won't change their minds.

It is a start... but you are right. It's not enough.

A better paln would be to go after GameSpot advertisers. Make them know that putting ads here will hurt them, not help them. This will get CNET's attention.

For example:

Any game that is advertised on the main page could be given horrible user reviews and scores of 1... much like we did for Kane and Lynch.

General calls of boycotting any prodcut advertised on the main page. Especially if we do it loud enough to make the main stream news, or other gaming websites.

Gamers must work as a team to bring back the honest GameSpot we all loved. If we don't.... then say goodbye to integrity at GameSpot forever.

Well.. I think its fairly obvious that CNET sees that.. if anything ever happens that seem suspicious, they are going to have to go through this again... CNET won't screw with the reviewers again.

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[QUOTE="xflamedemonx"]The main reasons of the firing have not bein open to the publicMystikef

Actually it has been made public, but through anonymous GameSpot employees that are in fear of losing their jobs right before the holidays. (Nice timing CNET. Coincidence?)

Jeff was fired for his integrity. The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, and CNET and GAMESPOT'S silence is the product of guilt. They can't make a statement refuting the truth. They just want it to blow over. We should not let it blow over. GameSpot WAS the best gaming site on the internet. CNET just destroyed it.

You ACTUALLY believe the "Anonymous gamespot employee." That guy is the biggest pile of BS i've ever seen.. If you want to be "anonymous" you DON'T use the internet.... Period... IP's can be tracked so easily that it isn't even funny... If he was really a gamespot employee trying to post about it, you would see him sending anonymous letters to some publication. That way it can't be tracked...nobody should actually believe that BS story... There are so many people that would take advantage of a situation like this that it isn't even funny....

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[QUOTE="Mystikef"]

[QUOTE="xflamedemonx"]The main reasons of the firing have not bein open to the publichorrowhip

Actually it has been made public, but through anonymous GameSpot employees that are in fear of losing their jobs right before the holidays. (Nice timing CNET. Coincidence?)

Jeff was fired for his integrity. The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, and CNET and GAMESPOT'S silence is the product of guilt. They can't make a statement refuting the truth. They just want it to blow over. We should not let it blow over. GameSpot WAS the best gaming site on the internet. CNET just destroyed it.

You ACTUALLY believe the "Anonymous gamespot employee." That guy is the biggest pile of BS i've ever seen.. If you want to be "anonymous" you DON'T use the internet.... Period... IP's can be tracked so easily that it isn't even funny... If he was really a gamespot employee trying to post about it, you would see him sending anonymous letters to some publication. That way it can't be tracked...nobody should actually believe that BS story... There are so many people that would take advantage of a situation like this that it isn't even funny....

Who said anything about it being by internet?

It could also have been an email sent from a home computer with a private email address.

It could have been a phone call.

It could have been a lunch meeting.

Either way, numerous inside sources (ie GameSpot employees)have given the details of meetings and the reasons over Jeff's firing. Jeff was fired for his integrity. He was fired because he would not give special reviews to GameSpot advertisers. He was the last person left in a position of power with integrity. CNET fired him to clear the way for paid reviews. It is that simple, and the evidence is overwhelming.

Besides... if it wasn't true, CNET or GameSpot corporate would just completely deny it. Yet... they are oddly silent hoping that it will all blow over and we will forget that they are willing to lie to gamers if they find it more profitable.

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#19 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="Mystikef"]

[QUOTE="xflamedemonx"]The main reasons of the firing have not bein open to the publicMystikef

Actually it has been made public, but through anonymous GameSpot employees that are in fear of losing their jobs right before the holidays. (Nice timing CNET. Coincidence?)

Jeff was fired for his integrity. The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, and CNET and GAMESPOT'S silence is the product of guilt. They can't make a statement refuting the truth. They just want it to blow over. We should not let it blow over. GameSpot WAS the best gaming site on the internet. CNET just destroyed it.

You ACTUALLY believe the "Anonymous gamespot employee." That guy is the biggest pile of BS i've ever seen.. If you want to be "anonymous" you DON'T use the internet.... Period... IP's can be tracked so easily that it isn't even funny... If he was really a gamespot employee trying to post about it, you would see him sending anonymous letters to some publication. That way it can't be tracked...nobody should actually believe that BS story... There are so many people that would take advantage of a situation like this that it isn't even funny....

Who said anything about it being by internet?

It could also have been an email sent from a home computer with a private email address.

It could have been a phone call.

It could have been a lunch meeting.

Either way, numerous inside sources (ie GameSpot employees)have given the details of meetings and the reasons over Jeff's firing. Jeff was fired for his integrity. He was fired because he would not give special reviews to GameSpot advertisers. He was the last person left in a position of power with integrity. CNET fired him to clear the way for paid reviews. It is that simple, and the evidence is overwhelming.

Besides... if it wasn't true, CNET or GameSpot corporate would just completely deny it. Yet... they are oddly silent hoping that it will all blow over and we will forget that they are willing to lie to gamers if they find it more profitable.

.... the only thing that has been posted regarding it from supposed "Gamespot employees" was in the comments section on a website. They created an account called "Gamespot" and posted it. thats the only stuff that has been posted.... And all of this got started because Penny Arcarde Comic made a comic to make a JOKE about it. Kotaku then picked up on it and then so did like 40 other sites and here we are. Penny Arcade did know that he was fired but they DON'T know the details.

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#20 horrowhip
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Who said anything about it being by internet?

It could also have been an email sent from a home computer with a private email address.

It could have been a phone call.

It could have been a lunch meeting.

Either way, numerous inside sources (ie GameSpot employees)have given the details of meetings and the reasons over Jeff's firing. Jeff was fired for his integrity. He was fired because he would not give special reviews to GameSpot advertisers. He was the last person left in a position of power with integrity. CNET fired him to clear the way for paid reviews. It is that simple, and the evidence is overwhelming.

Besides... if it wasn't true, CNET or GameSpot corporate would just completely deny it. Yet... they are oddly silent hoping that it will all blow over and we will forget that they are willing to lie to gamers if they find it more profitable.

Mystikef

contrary to what you apparently see of the world, the world is not Black and white like that.... There may be SOME truth to it but there also may be hundreds of other underlying reasons... Sorry if that doesn't fit into your and everyone else on this forums conspiracy theories but that is how the world is.

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I don't understand it either... people should be disappointed and angry with Eidos, and whoever it was at CNET who cowed to Eidos' demand... not directly with the people at Gamespot...

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#22 Mystikef
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[QUOTE="Mystikef"]

Who said anything about it being by internet?

It could also have been an email sent from a home computer with a private email address.

It could have been a phone call.

It could have been a lunch meeting.

Either way, numerous inside sources (ie GameSpot employees)have given the details of meetings and the reasons over Jeff's firing. Jeff was fired for his integrity. He was fired because he would not give special reviews to GameSpot advertisers. He was the last person left in a position of power with integrity. CNET fired him to clear the way for paid reviews. It is that simple, and the evidence is overwhelming.

Besides... if it wasn't true, CNET or GameSpot corporate would just completely deny it. Yet... they are oddly silent hoping that it will all blow over and we will forget that they are willing to lie to gamers if they find it more profitable.

horrowhip

contrary to what you apparently see of the world, the world is not Black and white like that.... There may be SOME truth to it but there also may be hundreds of other underlying reasons... Sorry if that doesn't fit into your and everyone else on this forums conspiracy theories but that is how the world is.

It's only a conspiracy theory it it's untrue. The evidence is overwhelming, including the pulling of the video review that Eidos complained about.

Jeff had integrity and was fired for it. If that is acceptable in your world view, then so be it, but there is no reason to put down people who believe in something amd want something to stay uncorrupted.

The world is not black and white - yeah, thanks for stating the obvious. But the truth is always true. And the evidence of this particular truth is... well, evident.