Tomb Raider @ 60fps on PS4, 18fps drops on XB1

PS4: Stronger

Xbox One: Better games

PS4: Cheaper

Xbox One: More features I enjoy

PS4: Owns more first party studios

Xbox One: Has better line-up going forward

PS4: Better third party performance

The only one of those things I care about on the PS4 side is the last one. That's a big one, but how big in terms of actual game enjoyment. I like, but I don't love Uncharted. I love God of War, but not more than Halo. A new TLOU might swing me to buy a PS4 someday, but thats a long time off. I've been playing the One since launch, and have gotten time in with the PS4. I dont see a gigantic difference with my own two eyes. But I see games for one I want far more than games for the other. If more people buy PS4 thats fine. Buy what you like. The Xbox One can't win a specs war with the PS4. That's obvious. Doesn't mean it wont have games with amazing graphics, or that it can't have the better games period, which I think it does. MS hasn't shown how the Cloud will do anything yet, so they will be laughed at until they do, rightfully so. But if I'm playing Titanfall and Halo 5 at 720p locked 60 frames, and Mass Effect comes oyt for the One, and Crackdown is made, lol, I'll live with the online humor of memes and gifs and shit. I'm about the games and features, not the specs. If I was about the specs I wouldn't console game at all cause no console will ever eclipse a PC.

"The more Frames Per Second we increase in our Gaming Standards the less “Magical” they will feel" i'm f*cking done hahahaha today is a funny day

hahahaha lembots are sad

@tormentos:

I have been on this site for about five or six years and I don't have over 1000 post and I don't post no where else you got me messed up as a lem or whatever you want to call it because I don't accept the hiveminding that's going on over these sites yes GAF hive mind no matter how smart these mf claim to be, N4g is straight sony land. So get off my nutts because I don't hype the UNSTABLESTATION like yall and when it all comes down that the ps4 sucks to me and the x1 sucks to you.

$100 more for lower FPS? Laughing my ass off right now.

Rather dubious declarations here.

XOne and PS4 both have mediocre launch libraries, period. Both will get better over coming months. The PS4 is most likely to get the better, wider range of exclusives because they have a larger, stronger first party developer and studio base. And after that, every PS4 version of every multiplat we're going to see will be the best version, and in many cases not by a small amount (see: TR).

To me, the XOne is at best a box you buy for the exclusives, similar to a Nintendo system. If you want the best overall gaming experience, you want a PS4 and the PS4 versions of every game you're interested in. End of discussion. Better 1st party support, stronger indie presence, more diverse library, best gaming hardware, PS+ free games library, and all for $100 cheaper.

It's almost a no-brainer at this point. And this is coming from someone who just celebrated 10 years at an Xbox Live Gold member. My One is here in my home ONLY to play Quantum Break, Halo 5, Forza 6, Titanfall (if it's good enough to buy a second copy after my PC version), and others. Much like my WiiU in my home ONLY to play Mario World, Smash, Zelda, and Metroid.

It is, as they say, what it is.

Thinks 1440p would work on PS4.. LOL!

Yeah PS4 is superior in everything related to gaming.

Yeah right. PS4 version will be close to 60fps at all times while the Xflop version will be around 30fps unless nothing is happening. And PS4 version was said to hold frames well even intense segments while Xflop can only hit 45fps if nothing is going on. So PS4 at its worst is better than Xflop at its best.

No you are a lemming because you copy and past mister X media crap here which is 100% wrong,and now since i have make you look silly in your arguments you have change your argument to the PS4 has no games,and everything sucks on PS4...lol

You don't hype the UNSTABLESTATION,you hype the LAMEBOXONE which is even worse is $100 more under power cable control wannabe,jack of all trades master of non nickel and dime galore..

That is what make you a lemming,so do you have any new theories on how the xbox one will for ever improve but the PS4 never will.? Because that last Tomb Raider news is making the xbox one look even more sh** than it look on the whole 720p vs 1080p thing.

As all lemmings have stated "It's all about the FPS and not resolution"

Nothing has been confirmed. PS4 is at or below 60fps. Xbox is at or above 30fps. Going to be funny when both prove to be 45fps. People really need to wait until the game is out and has been reviewed and tested before they make such proclamations of idiocy.

The xbox one doesn't have better games,the PS4 does and more games to confirmed by Metacritics.

Yeah more features you enjoy i can give you that,because going forward was never MS strong point and the xbox 360 proved that,the xbox 360 stopped getting new games and was basically surviving it last 3 years on Halo,Gears,Forza mary - go - round,while the PS3 keep pumping exclusive after exclusive.

Hey you tard, how's your PS4? Oh wait, I forgot you don't own one.

Better games is subjective you idiot. MC doesn't prove anything other than someone else has an opinion.

@tormentos:

I Hype games that I like don't matter what console it is on I said killzone looks good knack is a underrated, not because its not on my console of choice like you do. I've never spit any misterxmedia shit anywhere what I said I had read way before I stumbled on that site the Chinese devs spoke of two apu in the x1 I didn't get that from him and his so called insider the Yukon Diagram said the same thing and Xbox world magazine said it six months before I even knew about any site but gamespot, you cant talk about being a fanboy I've been playing games for a very long time before it was cool to pick sides im a fanboy of games not consoles.

Just as good as yours hypocrite,...

I don't need one to see which has better games...lol

The PS4 has more games and higher rated ones to,having a PS4 or not change that in nothing...lol

Score is what is use to determine which has better games,you butthurt lemming,else it will be my opinion vs yours...

Blah blah blah, you morons and your ridiculous double standards and now you the king moron with excuses for your shitty double standards, grow the **** up and stop worshiping an inanimate object developed by a company that couldn't give two shits about you.

Smaller difference. Same game and resolution only one averages 35fps and the other 55 fps. Games like SkyRim and Bayonetta are Unplayable on PS3. When the PS3 launched Madden on XB360 was 60fps and on PS3 it was 30 fps. Those are just a few of the many games that were worse on PS3 then on 360. Once devs learn to take advantage of custom hardware in the XB1 the gap will close a bit the same way the PS3/360 gap closed. Of course the more powerful hardware (PS4) will usually run multiplats better just like last Gen when 360 Multiplats were better because the XBox 360 was the more powerful hardware.

I do agree with you but it doesnt make Xbox version that much unplayable.
Am sure they would be more alike in most ways.
Nor would it impact the full game experience I say. I give both thumbs up and more credit to PS4 for being faster.

Not true, the ps3 could achieve greater results than the 360 albeit required much greater programming skill due to it's complicated architecture.

The xbone doesn't just have a complicated layout compared to the ps4, it's also significantly weaker. Simply put, your logic is flawed. If anything the gap will widen.

@ReadingRainbow4:

So when the 360 ran games at twice the frame rate as the PS3 it was because the PS3 was more complicated (Cell CPU) but now that MS has more complicated HW (Move engines, ESRAM) somehow that doesn't apply. You guys are funny.

Some guy playing the game on twitch confirmed that it runs at 60fps. Go check it out.

technically the PS3 was more powerful, but the tools to develop for it were terrible and devs weren't able to tap the power. also the design flaw of the split RAM and the fact multiplats couldn't spend the time needed on just the PS3 version to make it run smooth hurt as well.

LMAO @Tormentos posts.

I'm not reading them, just laughing because we know it's all garbage, BS, bias dribble.

But it's not entirely the same situation. The xbones outright weaker, ps3 and 360 have always been heavily debated in terms of power aside from the cell processor, something that actually ended up providing results.

We can't say the same for the Cloud or Ms's tiled resources.

Yeah, I'm a Halo guy too but man Xbox One needs to get their shit together ASAP

How do you know that? This gen just started!

So the cell can "end up" providing results.........yet the XB1 has to prove it day one? PS3 was claimed by cows to be more powerful.......now its "debated"?

Double standard FTL?

Look whos talking about double standards he who defends the xbox one,but as soon as its look bad runs and take cover on PC...

Funny thing is you flame sony with the same passion i defend it yet you are not consider a fanboy right.?

No they were not unplayable you butthurt lemming..

The only game was madden 2008 which was release on 2007,madden 2009 ran at 60 FPS to on PS3,but the PS3 had an extremely difficult to code but very powerful CPU,the xbox one is not the same in any way is just PC hardware.

The PS3 had a more powerful and capable CPU the xbox 360 a stronger GPU what keep the 360 ahead was the unified memory and easy of coding,and still several multiplayforms ran better on PS4 like GTA5 for example.

And exclusive talking we all know how sony since 2007 dethroned the xbox 360.

In this case the xbox one has a 660Gflops disadvantage that will not magically go away,worse the PS4 is heavy modify for compute the xbox one isn't period this is launch and already the difference is there,3 years down the road it will be even worse.

The only reason you Pretend that you don't read my post is,because i have make a joke of your arguments,and have ridicule you for trying to pass your self as something that your not,you are a die hard lemming be proud...

All your theories are always pro xbox period you are a lemming with more than one console,.

Pray tell, where I said they couldn't?

there's no use debating me on which system has the upper hand through tech, However if you want to believe in fairy tales spun by CEO's be my guest.

I was simply explaining the situations aren't entirely the same. They very well could still pull a rabbit out of their ass with magic cloud power, who knows. It doesn't look likely however.

you mean what everyone does with your posts? actually scratch that, i do read yours, they are so incredibly stupid that make me laugh

Again, so

MS says there is little difference: Fairy tale spun by CEOs

Sony says "Teh Cell/only possible on PS3: Teh truth cuz sony said so

The situation this gen is entirely comparable to last gen. Early on, PS3 had the weaker multiplats because of the unorthodox architecture. Now its XB1. 360 was easier to program for, now its PS4. PS4 has the better GPU, last gen it was 360.

Bottom line is as devs optimize for move engines and ESRAM, multiplats will be the same........just as they were last gen (later in the cycle). Exclusives will still make use of the system as a whole. PS4 has better specs, but right now, the industry says Ryse is the best looking game. That will surely change, but it proves tech specs dont tell the whole story. PS4 has higher framerates because of the simplicity of its design, NOT because it is more powerful. I have a degree in software develpment (not games, admittedly), i can tell you first hand that the differences arent as big as fanboys are making them out to be.

Hell, even Sony isnt touting hardware this gen as they were last gen. Its like everyone except cows know this. Now, PS4 is my chosen console, but i made that decision because of GAMES and Sonys first party. But i can honestly admit that the XB1 isnt that far behind.

Once again, the hardware difference is hardly the same.

Even last gen, differences in resolution between early 360 and ps3 titles weren't this huge. Now there's even talk of Titanfall having issues hitting 720p at a smooth 30fps, same thing with tomb raider.

Granted, we could chalk this up to incompetent devs, but unlike last gen there's also a distinct difference in what hardware they have to work with, this is tossing aside architecture complexity.

I'm watching this as a 3rd party honestly, I have no stock or investment in either of these companies. I'm simply pointing out the obvious and having fun laughing at the lemmings that are still clinging to the nimbus.

Improbable is not the same as Impossible however, so like I said. They might have some magic trick up their sleeves.

Its not magic. Its common sense to anyone who isnt a fanboy. You arent a 3rd party so dont pretend to be. You have proven yourself to be a Sony fanboy time and again. Im a little disappointed in myself that i even tried to reason with you. Wasted 30ms of my life...

That's pretty predictable, that's the exact response I thought I'd get out of you now that you have nothing to argue with.

I suppose I'm wasting some of my life typing this as well. Oh well.... I can't say you're worth it but I'm bored anyway.

Nothing to argue with?

Im basing my opinion on my educational knowledge and experiences, yours is based on what you see on the web.

There is a reason for everthing yet you ignore them because you dont want it to be....

@navyguy21: did you even read what he said?

He's right in the Xbox ones own merrit the architecture and hardware aren't nearly as hard and complicated to work with compared to the cell. Developers have stated before both consoles are a joy to work with in fact.

Even if they say work out these hardware kinks like "driver support" do you expect that to double multiplat resolutions? double multiplat frames per second?

Basically what you're getting now with Xbox One won't be too far out from what you will be getting 3-4 years down the road (compared to the PS4).

Speaking strictly in terms of PC programming, out of date drivers CAN potentially halve your framerate. Also, ESRAM has to be programmed for. If it isnt, then you would also lose frames. If devs arent tiling resources properly, you lose frames. There are a host of things that effect framerates of games, which is why PCs always use brute force as a solution.......meaning you need uber powerful hardware to get the best out of games. Consoles are about optimization. If it isnt done properly, so much is affected.

I wonder if it gets old defending this lame-dick 1.1TFlop console..

Apparently not.

What is unorthodox in the xbox one hardware.?

ESRAM is the only problem there and the xbox 360 had EDRAM which was actually worse than ESRAM which on xbox one is more flexible,the real problem with the xbox one,is the memory structure is not as straight forward as the PS4 memory is.

There is no fixing that unless they make a new xbox one hardware without ESRAM and with GDDR5,DDr3 doesn't have the speed and ESRAM is not suitable for all the data the game has,not everything fit there and demand another approach which will not warranty either that the console perform much better.

Is not even close to be the same as the PS3,the xbox 360 had a stronger GPU,but the PS3 had a stronger CPU that could help the GPU with some task actually freeing GPU resources on the xbox 360 the xenos did almost everything on PS3 Cell did several things the RSX did another it was a case of 2 vs 1,which helped the PS3,the first PS3 games didn't use SPE so performance was bad,but regardless of not using it the power was there to be exploited,the xbox one doesn't have something like that it doesn't have extra power hidden that need to be untap,the xbox one has the same CPU as the PS4 clock 100 mhz faster,even so test show the PS4 CPU out performs it,maybe thanks to the PS4 true HSA nature,the GPU is strong on the PS4 660Gflops which is a bigger gap than what the Xenos had on the RSX.

ESRAM and MOve engines don't produce power,Cell did this is where the difference strike and your argument falls apart the PS4 also have a move engine,is call DMA,then adding to this is the PS4 more custom hardware for compute which will pay of even more latter on.

Ryse is a joke of a game and they have to sacrifice space,resolution to make it look like that,fact is Ryse running on PS4 would look better and be 1080p with faster frames,If Uncharted 4 is build by Sony like Ryse with extremely enclosed areas extreme Fog an been 900p with sub 30 FPS it will look way way better than Ryse,Ryse is a 3rd person game and can even hit 1080p,all it has is great looking models,Killzone SF look just as good,is 1080p and has faster frames.

Every engine running on PS4 runs faster Ryse one is no different,the game is not just make for PS4,there is no this game can't run on PS4 crap,every game the xbox one can run the PS4 can run it with the same visuals or better faster or at higher resolutions while been faster,the PS4 and xbox one have the same CPU and GPU from the same family is GCN the stronger one always performs better.

Yeah your right they has just been saying we have build the most powerful console ever,every time they have a chance.

30 vs 60 is a nice power gap a really nice one,that is not 50% more is 100% more,even 20FPS was over 50%.

Thank you. I just got into the show recently. I remember watching an episode or two back in the day, but never really got into it. Only 14 episodes long and it achieves more in that time than most shows do over 5-7 seasons at 20+ episodes. Probably the most shameful thing FOX has ever done is cancel it. Well, aside from holding the IP hostage.

That is a VERY simplistic way of looking at it.

A part of me feels like you are open to discussion, but your posting history says otherwise......so im not sure how to proceed.

Im being genuine here. I know that you are a Sony fanboy and you dont try to hide it......which is good.

So do you really want me to explain or are you going to just ignore what i say.

Again, its an honest question, not trying to set you up or be a jerk. I just dont like to waste my time explaining only to have people ignore it because its not what they want to hear. (i apologize if this comes off the wrong way)

Umm those are opinions you idiot, just like I said. Which games are better depends on the individual. So if I say the XOne games are better, that would be MY opinion and no amount of score posting is going to change that. Dude you're about as dumb as they come.

BTW, how many of those games have you played on your PS4? None, because you don't own one. I can say I played a couple of XOne games though.

@Shewgenja said:

@Tessellation said:

the virginity and basement dwelling from the upset camp aka cows is off the chartz watch them getting hard ons over electronic pieces of plastic and few differences over games,sad little nerds LOL

yeah must be hard for you to believe you're not in love with pieces of plastic.

PS4:

- Faster install speeds

- Faster download times

- No OS lag

- 3 AAA studios (ND, SSM, and MM) vs. 0 AAA studios from MS

- Xbone will have 0 games after year 2 just like 360. Promise you that.

@Tessellation said:

@Shewgenja said:

@Tessellation said:

the virginity and basement dwelling from the upset camp aka cows is off the chartz watch them getting hard ons over electronic pieces of plastic and few differences over games,sad little nerds LOL

yeah must be hard for you to believe you're not in love with pieces of plastic.

Oh, the irony.

Lol at the ps4's game list. Flower.. sweet. Pinball.. omgz! I mean really, how sad must it be to be a ps4 owner right now? I suppose you can get by on the multiplats but that doesn't really support any argument over the competition if you can play the same games regardless

And when you thought basement dwellers and nerds weren't enough,a butthurt weeaboo appears lol,damn the original comment sure is rustling some jimmies LMAO.