[QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

the part i immediately disagree with is when he compares a site's scores to metacritic averages

particularly because using averages negates whether Edge is clearly unique in their scoring or not, ie: if Edge and 10 other websites feel X game sucks, but 20 websites feel X game rocks their socks off, the average will end up looking bad for Edge

i also think it's a disservice towards the value of personal opinion, since an average of genuinely made-up scores (since very few websites use any kind of mathematical/scientific method for scoring) can vary from site to site just simply based on who it is doing the judging, a score is always simply attached as a "generalization" of a review, but it's always the content of a review that matters more

KingsMessenger

yet again... there are too many other variables for him to make a statement like "EDGE is biased against the PS3."

When he figures out how to isolate all the other factors, THEN he will have an argument. Until then, he just has a mountain of useless, insignificant data.

the part i immediately disagree with is when he compares a site's scores to metacritic averages

particularly because using averages negates whether Edge is clearly unique in their scoring or not, ie: if Edge and 10 other websites feel X game sucks, but 20 websites feel X game rocks their socks off, the average will end up looking bad for Edge

i also think it's a disservice towards the value of personal opinion, since an average of genuinely made-up scores (since very few websites use any kind of mathematical/scientific method for scoring) can vary from site to site just simply based on who it is doing the judging, a score is always simply attached as a "generalization" of a review, but it's always the content of a review that matters more

88mphSlayer

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]fanboy blog doesn't mean anything but venomous rage trying to prove a point through flawed dataKingsMessenger

The data isn't flawed to be honest. It maybe a fanboy blog but doesn't make it any less true.

It is inherently flawed given the scoring system employed by EDGE. Sometime as simple as the week that a game is scored could drop the scores from EDGE because they do not have a single scoring criteria beyond "Whatever you feel like giving it."

For all we know, Sony could send review copies to PS3 exclusives towards the end of the magazine cycle when the EDGE reviewers are under a lot more stress and would be more easily aggravated.

Also, all this proves is a correlation, not a causation. Until you can prove a causal link between the platform and the score, all you have here is an ultimately insignificant trend. The meat behind a review in EDGE is what is written. Can't say that for a number of other review sources, but it IS the case for EDGE.

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]

You wanna know why the Cube got more 3rd party love? Because it was of comprable power with its peers and had a comprable control scheme. This time aroun their is a huge gap in specs and the wii is simply too different on the control front for easy porting. Not to mention the install base nintendo has created is extremely unpredictable because its made up mostly of people who don't know much about video gamesand can't tell quality from crap.

eveileb-ekam

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="farnham"] so the wii is worse then the 3DO and the sega 32x ?farnham

after a while i stop listening to those comments some people just arent satisifed and have to say statements like this is truly a shame

Gamecube

Metroid Prime

The Wind Waker and Four Swords Adventure

SSB Melee

Pikmin 1 and 2

F-Zero GX

Mario Kart Double Dash

Fire Emblem

Animal Crossing

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat

Competing with the likes of:

Resident Evil series

Madden

Soul Calibur II

Viewtiful Joe

Eternal Darkness

SSX

Prince of Persia: Sands of Time Trilogy

Burnout

Timesplitters

Beyond Good and Evil

Super Monkey Ball

Tales of Symphonia

Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes

The Sims

This is good third party comparison. With the Wii, on the other hand, you have Nintendo's staple franchises competing with the likes of

Okami, a PS2 port.

A Boy and His Blob, a 2D platform puzzler.

Resident Evil 4, a port.

No More Heroes, a deliberately satiricle piece of software with a deliberately poor overworld and retro graphics.

Muramasa, another sidescroller.

Zack and Wiki, the very definition of a game with an identity crisis; a difficult Japanese point and click adventure game with childish dressings.

deBlob, a niche musical platformer.

MadWorld, a short bralwer with over the top violence, repetetive gameplay and annoying announcers.

Umbrella / Darkside chronicles, on rails RE spin offs.

Dead Space extraction, another on rails shooter from an IP that wasnt.

Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, a game where the majority of the Western population doesnt know the second half of the cast.

Games that did well on the Cube have lost their appeal on the Wii, such as Madden.

However good, these games cannot compete with the third party offerings on the Cube. They are not mainstream enough, they dont have the same marketing and they simply dont have the same level of polish.

My point is, the next time you criticise Nintendo for the third party situation on the Wii, you might want to think about who is really at fault for the poor sales. If a machine like the GameCube can consistently play host to a variety of core, mainstream content, then there is really no reason why the Wii cannot either.

All that is left is excuses.

eveileb-ekam

i have a ps2 also but it doesn't connect to my computer monitor like my ps3 does. I want to play these ps2 games but I ain't getting off my ass to the living room to play.fishing666

[QUOTE="tok1879"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I don't think they are making it up when they say it doesn't "feel" right,but I think their emotions in this regard are silly as all hell as a console is just a freaking hunk of plastic. I'm not discounting the emotional attachments, I'm 'simply not going to legitimize such silliness.

If they want to play it on the system they are accustomed to, they can go right ahead and do that. The 360 version is not holding them hostage or anything.

I will say it plainly: anybody who is genuinely angry at the existence of a 360 version has some screws lose. They have let their emotional attachments cloud their reasoning.

Also, I think that FF fans who are mad about the game going to 360 are not fans of "FF" but are rather fans of "FF on the PS brand", which is where the badly worded "legitimate" claim I made comes in.

GreySeal9

Emotion is not always silly. Some emotions make perfect sense. Personally, it's my goal to minimize all the silly ones, but different strokes I guess.

Anyway, I still think the booing was stupid and immature. Getting a free console+game is nothing to boo about, especially as they can sell both items later.

IF I were them, I would have taken the 360+game, thanked the people who offered me free stuff, kept the 360 (since I don't have one) and traded in the 360 version of FFXIII for credit towards the PS3 version.