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Why do you expect a Duke Nukem game to have some sort of complex, meaningful story? Have you played the earlier games (or games like them?)... they are all about mindless violence and giving $1 dollar bills to strippers. As a fan of the previous games, I'd be disappointed if they went in a story heavy direction like Half-life 2. The Duke character is stupid/cheesy and so the story should also be stupid/cheesy, but that's what makes it fun to me and others (maybe not you)... most games try to be something more and they fail, Duke Nukem is just trying to be an over-the-top FPS game... that's all it's trying to be, not some deep RPG or adventure game. So as far as I'm concerned, my admiration for this game doesn't distort my criticism of others. If a game is trying to be meaningful and it's writing sucks, I'll say it sucks.
Also it's just a 2 minute trailer... kinda hard to judge the "writing" of the game off of that. The sad thing is, I had more fun watching the 2001 trailer of DNF than I have had playing most modern games.
biggest_loser
I don't expect it have a complex story, I just expect the comedy after 12 years to be a little above the mind of a year 12 old. It can still be a parody but that doesn't mean the writing has to be that dumb or crude. I never said Duke should be an RPG so I don't know why you said that. You say you want sophistocated humor, well how would you make Duke more complex?
It would be so much more fun to me if they actually put some effort and thought into making it a really clever parody. Its not beyond games these days to do that. There are some hysterically funny games that are neither crude or dumb.
I think its unbelievable that you will criticise a game for taking bigger chances and maybe not pulling them off entirely than one which after so many years is still pulling the same tired jokes. Surely you want developers to take more chances with games?
I get what you're saying in that it knows what it is but surely you'd rather see more Deus Ex in the future than Bulletstorm right? If both Duke and Bulletstorm are massive hits as expected you can bet your money more games will come out like this.
We're just feeding off our perceptions of the trailer yes and if the game is smarter and funnier than it looks than great!
It gets under my nose around here that as soon as I use the terms "sophisticated" or "smart" people think I'm expecting Duke to become Bergman-like or something...
I've referred to it a couple of times in this thread but again Tales is a perfect example of a game that is smart AND funny without losing its self-awareness.
Is Tales a FPS? Anyway, you want the game to "age" with the audience... give me a good example of how Duke Nukem Forever could accomplish that while maintaining the essence of the original Duke character. I want to know how you'd "craft" the character without completely destroying him.The more "advanced" Duke becomes, the less appealing the character is, at least to me. And what you see in this thread is a lot of people who've played Duke Nukem 3D back in the day, and they still want that stupid, "12-year old humor". Why? Because it's still fun and funny to them. Hell, I appreciate Duke in much different way now that I'm older (I didn't really get it back then). Maybe it's been done before, but not recently, so it'll be refreshing to people like me.
And yes, I want to see more games with this approach on things... for example, I'd love to see a Conker's Bad Fur Day kind of take on Donkey Kong or Mario...
I'm really tired of all these pseudo intellectual, pseudo emotional FPS games. I just want to kill hordes of bad guys and have a good time. Sure, I'd like to see some more Deus Ex types in the mix too, but variety is still necessary, and right now all I get is a bunch of games that try to be like movies and fail, and as a result ultimately fail at being games.
But really, this is a stupid conversation. Your definition of funny obviously doesn't apply to everyone else... it's subjective, as is mine. So, I think it's funny, you don't... as I said before this isn't going to go anywhere.
And for the record, I'm not really interested in Bulletstorm's "humor", it feels too forced to me.
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