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#1 Posted by smokeydabear076 (22109 posts) -

[QUOTE="couly"]Call of Duty: Future WarfareTHA-TODD-BEAST

Call of Crysis

Crysis of Duty: In the Future!

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#2 Posted by smokeydabear076 (22109 posts) -
But it's in the news! It must be true!
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#3 Posted by smokeydabear076 (22109 posts) -

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After playing the Xbox 360 demo, I doubt it being on the PC is going to make it a whole lot funner... it was really boring. And I don't think it had much to do with controls or lesser graphics, the gameplay itself was just boring. I still have some hope for the singleplayer though, and maybe I'm wrong and the PC will make the difference for this one (it's happened in the past, so it's always a possibility).

mrbojangles25

what game mode was offered? if it was just deathmatch, yeah, I can see that being boring.

Whats it like? Did they keep some of the awesome old elements (i.e. currency, I always loved that...) or is it more build-a-class like CoD now?

It was team deathmatch and it's also 100% Call of Duty now, as far as I can tell... they had all the same mods like enhanced radar, an airstrike, and an orbital strike (I never used these, don't know if you can, but I saw them in the menu). The map design was horrible, so were the connection issues (not sure this will be a problem on the PC). You level up your stealth, armor, and speed (I think) as you use them, but I'm not sure what happens when you get to level 2... I'm assuming you get some sort of perk. Overall, it's a lot like someone else said on the Xbox 360 forums, "Call of Halo", sadly, nothing special. It'll probably play better on the PC though, since most FPS games do.

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#4 Posted by smokeydabear076 (22109 posts) -

After playing the Xbox 360 demo, I doubt it being on the PC is going to make it a whole lot funner... it was really boring. And I don't think it had much to do with controls or lesser graphics, the gameplay itself was just boring. I still have some hope for the singleplayer though, and maybe I'm wrong and the PC will make the difference for this one (it's happened in the past, so it's always a possibility).

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#5 Posted by smokeydabear076 (22109 posts) -

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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

Well bulletstorm is mainly swearing over some bandits that the character kills. Duke is making fun of the situation and what you see at that momment. Its more scripted. Its on spot. However not very intelligent.

biggest_loser

Yeah, that's why Bulletstorm doesn't work for me... not because it's "on consoles".

Wow you got all that from the Bulletstorm trailers right?

No, I've played the game. I'm a time traveler.

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#6 Posted by smokeydabear076 (22109 posts) -

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I don't see how Bulletstorm's humour is anymore forced that Dukes? How are they any different? Gratuitous violence, insane action, stupid one-lines and insults. You're only saying that because its probably going to be a more console orientated game.dakan45

Well bulletstorm is mainly swearing over some bandits that the character kills. Duke is making fun of the situation and what you see at that momment. Its more scripted. Its on spot. However not very intelligent.

Yeah, that's why Bulletstorm doesn't work for me... not because it's "on consoles".

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#7 Posted by smokeydabear076 (22109 posts) -

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Why do you expect a Duke Nukem game to have some sort of complex, meaningful story? Have you played the earlier games (or games like them?)... they are all about mindless violence and giving $1 dollar bills to strippers. As a fan of the previous games, I'd be disappointed if they went in a story heavy direction like Half-life 2. The Duke character is stupid/cheesy and so the story should also be stupid/cheesy, but that's what makes it fun to me and others (maybe not you)... most games try to be something more and they fail, Duke Nukem is just trying to be an over-the-top FPS game... that's all it's trying to be, not some deep RPG or adventure game. So as far as I'm concerned, my admiration for this game doesn't distort my criticism of others. If a game is trying to be meaningful and it's writing sucks, I'll say it sucks.

Also it's just a 2 minute trailer... kinda hard to judge the "writing" of the game off of that. The sad thing is, I had more fun watching the 2001 trailer of DNF than I have had playing most modern games.

biggest_loser

I don't expect it have a complex story, I just expect the comedy after 12 years to be a little above the mind of a year 12 old. It can still be a parody but that doesn't mean the writing has to be that dumb or crude. I never said Duke should be an RPG so I don't know why you said that. You say you want sophistocated humor, well how would you make Duke more complex?

It would be so much more fun to me if they actually put some effort and thought into making it a really clever parody. Its not beyond games these days to do that. There are some hysterically funny games that are neither crude or dumb.

I think its unbelievable that you will criticise a game for taking bigger chances and maybe not pulling them off entirely than one which after so many years is still pulling the same tired jokes. Surely you want developers to take more chances with games?

I get what you're saying in that it knows what it is but surely you'd rather see more Deus Ex in the future than Bulletstorm right? If both Duke and Bulletstorm are massive hits as expected you can bet your money more games will come out like this.

We're just feeding off our perceptions of the trailer yes and if the game is smarter and funnier than it looks than great!

It gets under my nose around here that as soon as I use the terms "sophisticated" or "smart" people think I'm expecting Duke to become Bergman-like or something...

I've referred to it a couple of times in this thread but again Tales is a perfect example of a game that is smart AND funny without losing its self-awareness.

Is Tales a FPS? Anyway, you want the game to "age" with the audience... give me a good example of how Duke Nukem Forever could accomplish that while maintaining the essence of the original Duke character. I want to know how you'd "craft" the character without completely destroying him.

The more "advanced" Duke becomes, the less appealing the character is, at least to me. And what you see in this thread is a lot of people who've played Duke Nukem 3D back in the day, and they still want that stupid, "12-year old humor". Why? Because it's still fun and funny to them. Hell, I appreciate Duke in much different way now that I'm older (I didn't really get it back then). Maybe it's been done before, but not recently, so it'll be refreshing to people like me.

And yes, I want to see more games with this approach on things... for example, I'd love to see a Conker's Bad Fur Day kind of take on Donkey Kong or Mario...

I'm really tired of all these pseudo intellectual, pseudo emotional FPS games. I just want to kill hordes of bad guys and have a good time. Sure, I'd like to see some more Deus Ex types in the mix too, but variety is still necessary, and right now all I get is a bunch of games that try to be like movies and fail, and as a result ultimately fail at being games.

But really, this is a stupid conversation. Your definition of funny obviously doesn't apply to everyone else... it's subjective, as is mine. So, I think it's funny, you don't... as I said before this isn't going to go anywhere.

And for the record, I'm not really interested in Bulletstorm's "humor", it feels too forced to me.

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#8 Posted by smokeydabear076 (22109 posts) -

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Do you really believe that? That there's a craft to the humour in Duke? I'm genuinely asking.

biggest_loser

Yes, I do.

Fair enough. If you think there is a craft to it don't ever let me hear you complain about bad writing in other upcoming games though.

Why do you expect a Duke Nukem game to have some sort of complex, meaningful story? Have you played the earlier games (or games like them?)... they are all about mindless violence and giving $1 dollar bills to strippers. As a fan of the previous games, I'd be disappointed if they went in a story heavy direction like Half-life 2. The Duke character is stupid/cheesy and so the story should also be stupid/cheesy, but that's what makes it fun to me and others (maybe not you)... most games try to be something more and they fail, Duke Nukem is just trying to be an over-the-top FPS game... that's all it's trying to be, not some deep RPG or adventure game. So as far as I'm concerned, my admiration for this game doesn't distort my criticism of others. If a game is trying to be meaningful and it's writing sucks, I'll say it sucks.

Also it's just a 2 minute trailer... kinda hard to judge the "writing" of the game off of that. The sad thing is, I had more fun watching the 2001 trailer of DNF than I have had playing most modern games.

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#9 Posted by smokeydabear076 (22109 posts) -

Do you really believe that? That there's a craft to the humour in Duke? I'm genuinely asking.

biggest_loser

Yes, I do.

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#10 Posted by smokeydabear076 (22109 posts) -

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Can't it be smart and "in the gutter" at the same time? Duke Nukem would lose a lot of his personality if he lightened things up... he's so over-the-top... that's part of the "joke" and its also what I like about the character.

biggest_loser

How can you be smart and yet have such witless comedy at the same time?

They could at least write some clever and funny lines of dialogue. I'd be happy with that instead of just dick jokes and sexism.

Who says a joke has to be witty in order to be smart? It can be carefully crafted, but not require "wit" and still be good. To me Duke Nukem is so stupid it's funny, and it's not necessarily easy to make something "stupid" but enjoyable at the same time.

Anyway, it's not your cup of tea, but I like it, so this isn't going to go anywhere. Oh and there's nothing wrong with sexist/dick jokes.