[QUOTE="JDW_games"] Look at it this way ... The new 360 Elite retails for $470. The regular 360 is $400. If you keep your regular 360 and upgrade to the new hard drive it is going to run for around $180 bucks making a grand total of $580 you have spent. Plus if you want to add HD DVD that is $200 bucks! Where is the savings???? The PS3 has FREE online play, and a Blu Ray player for $500 - $600 bucks. Not a bad deal for a system that is only going to grow and get better. You better believe Sony will do what they have to in order to stay pace with 360 and Wii this year. I look for a price drop in the near future. It's just a fact ... 360 owners, you aren't really getting that great of a deal. mathew952

Did you happen to notice that A) the Hd-DVD attachment sells like crap, did you consider that people DON'T WANT to watch HD-DVDs and B) only 7% own an HDTV. There is no point in having an HD player if you can't enjoy the benefits! So take off that 200.

Point 2 I want to make is Why Do I need a 120Gb HDD? Most people only use the Hard drive for Gamesaves, and even if you want to download HD content, you can delete it when your done with it, and the next time you go to download it, it's free becuase you already paid. So the 20GB is fine.

So the 360 is still a better deal. Sure the PS3 has Free online play, but many people say it is largely inferior to XBL, and the service isn't unified, so developers are kind of there own when using PSN. and 50 bucks a year isn't that Bad for an online service that 6 million find to be worth the money.

Also, the PS3 controller Battery dies and cant be replaced, so If you have a 2 ocntroller set up, its gonna cost you 40 bucks a year just to keep controllers availible, the battery last 1 to 2 years. I'd rather pay for an online service then to replace controllers.

The PS3 lacks HD cablings, and a headset, and most improatantly, games. How long can you play resistance?

-I keep hearing varied %s with HDTV. Today it's 7, yesterday it was 17.

-HD content is not free just because you paid once.

-I take it you haven't played either one if you have to rely on hearsay?

-The controllers last more than a year.....

-HDMI = $5, Headset = cellphone bluetooth headset, Games = ok, now that's valid 

the 360 is a better value because HD movies ARE A COMPELTE RIP OFF & WASTE OF MONEY & AD NOTHING TO GAMES and trhe fact that NOONE O NTHIS DAMN PLANET EVEN HAS WI_FI IN THEIR HOMES YET. Illumination77

let me attack this point by point:

hd movies a complete rip off? then why are people buying them?

hd movies add nothing to gameplay? umm...perhaps because they are movies?

no one on the planet has wifi? yea...coffee shops offer free wifi now because it's so convenient...which planet do you inhabit? 

[QUOTE="MultiplateOwner"]

u guys for get that oblivion is bethaside first game on the ps3, which looks better than there first game on the 360, add the fact that u people say ps3 is hard to dev for, oblivion shows ps3 is just s better system if the game is ported right.

STABW0UND

360 version is WAY better ps3 version dosent even tell you how much gold you get at the end of a mission :\

gamespot disagrees.

as does ign. i'm inclined to trust them more 

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

Well, maybe PC owners too.

I'm sorry but Mass Effect? No.

Alan Wake? Delayed. Again.

Bioshock? Limited Exclusive. PETER MOORE QUOTE FTW!

Halo 3? Graphics look like pretty pink and purple cartoony animations that SCREAM minor improvments over Halo 2.

So what then? Fable 2? Fable 1 sucked and was only medicore.

 

 

Sony on the other hand....

Home

Little Big Planet

Killzone 2 (NOT ABOUT SKITTLE COLORED ALIENS)

Heavenly Sword

MGS4

FF XIII

FF Versus XIII

GT5

God of War 3

Jak

R & C

Sony is really pullin ahead now. With the stupid 20 gig DQ'ed Sony can give ALL consumers the best as standard. Then they can evetually price point ONE console while Microsoft sells you a butchered experience. 360 - HDD = Terrible. 20 gigs DOES NOT EQUAL 100 DOLLARS.

 

JDW_games

that game lineup does look awfully appealing 

so you start by insulting the ps3 with things that mean nothing at all then say this ?

"I am going to try to defend all the consoles now and stop just bashing them like a mindless fanboy"

why do you care that killzone2 made a CGI? dose it lower the game? dose it make it worse? no, it effects nothing at all.

hip-hop-cola

nice. called out! 

that's the best samurai movie i ever seen and the main guy is american.beldugo

Perhaps because the other "real" samurai movies are in a foreign language?

did you ever stop to think that there are black people around the world not just living in the jungle around that time?beldugo

Umm...that's not very politically correct

have you ever seen the movie black knight even though its fantasy like this game he is still black, does it seem out of place?beldugo

Yes. That's why we call it "fantasy"

[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]

You know, I love how people on here react to objective arguements.

I hate to tell you all this, but the OP has a valid point.

You might hate the PS3 with all your little jaded consumer-shaded hearts, but the PS3 provides some of the most advanced processing and advances in hardware performance this generation.

It has many other problems that do not make it worth a purchase, and make its production unethical and anti-consumer, but it must really hurt to admit that the product you hate completely outperforms products that some of you love.

glitchgeeman

Hey FoamingPanda, are there any games you actually enjoy playing? Or do you just like complaining about them?

you may need a vision check. i didn't see him complaining about games at all in his post 

I have to agree. It does look horrible just like Halo 3 and Mass Effect.ParasiteEveLust

very nice reply!

did tom cruise seem out of place in "the last samurai"?beldugo

Yes. Very. Mooney agrees

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zf-ZtRJZxnY