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#1 TKandPBC
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="Dycras"]

Don't worry TC, everyone knows its true, its just the melee fanboys that figured out those glitches and tricks that hate brawl because they took them out to make the game better and just make up lame excuses :P

Dycras

Some people need to Adapt to the next game.

Even though I perfer Melee doesn't mean I don't like Brawl. I love it!

I usually perfer the 2nd games than the 3rd and the 1st.

It's just me.

I know, there are a lot of people like you that are perfectly fine with their opinion that just like melee better, but then there's the others that got pissed there hard found glitches were taken out so they complain about how brawl is such a horrible game and its way worse than melee, even though its better. Just because its better though doesn't mean everyone has to like the better one though, because some people would rather have faster action, like you.

Hey guys, thread reviver here. About those hard found glitches, I really think that stuff like wavedashing and l-cancelling added a layer of depth to what was a very simple fighting game. There's something to be said about a game that's easy to learn but tough to master, and Melee was one of them. While Brawl hasn't been reduced to a button masher, it has lost that layer of depth that made Melee so much fun to learn (even if that depth was unintentional on the devs part). In addition, I thought the pace of Melee was what made it so great. Characters were flying every which way, and reflexes played a much bigger role. Though, I can understand why Nintendo did it. Slowing the pace down made it more accessible to the Wii's demographic: the casual gamer. Notwithstanding, I would prefer for the next SSB to go back to a more frantic pace, with more arcadey physics. Melee may not have been the "better game" (by whatever standard you guys are setting), but it was sure as hell more fun.
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#2 TKandPBC
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Fray and clash are nice IMO.
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bump :) Seeing that the "new" factor should be about diminished by now, I wanted to see what you guys really think about these two games. Since this topic has covered so much, I figured it would be better to bump this up than to create something new. What I found is that, with all the hype for Brawl during it's release, there would be some bias from people getting caught up in the hype. However, now that it's settled in, I was wondering what you guys thought. IMO, I don't like the gameplay change. Sure Brawl just outclasses Melee in terms of features (online, subspace, etc.), but the hectic nature of Melee is what made it such a blast to play. Brawl has been slowed down so much, and characters considered to be OP in melee have been toned down to the point that I dont enjoy using them anymore. I've been spent far too long in the selection screen trying to find someone to use, and have selected Random more times already than I have in my many, many hours of melee. I understand that some things were unbalanced, but it added to the game in a great way. A Falcon knee was supposed to be game changing, Shiek was supposed move like lightning and be dependent on aerial attacks to KO, a match with fox was supposed to be thrilling in its own right. Now, a good portion of this stuff is gone. Let me reiterate that content wise, Brawl owns Melee. But the subtle intricacies in gameplay such as l-canceling, teching and wavedashing are gone. The new physics engine sort of makes up for it, but it shoots itself in the foot with all the tripping. Guys, Brawl is a great game, and chances are it won't be forgotten for a long time. But when I got Melee, I played it nonstop. NON-STOP. I could not stop playing if i tried. With Brawl, it only comes out when the family is over and they want something that four people can play. But that's just me. What do you guys think?
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Alright so I'm big on BC. I was one of the unfortunate ones who didnt get a PS2 and I missed out on the 60GB. I looked to buy a 60GB a couple months back, but my $700 CAN offer was dwarfed by a $1200 offer on kijiji. Now, the price of a ps3 + a ps2 is cheaper than the 60GB. So, with walmart's huge sale this week i thought i would pick up a ps2 for $60. But now Sony says they're gonna offer PS2 games online. I have two questions: Should I buy the PS2 or just download the games when they come online? Also, is the 120GB enough if I choose to d/load? I plan on getting a lot of those classics that I missed on (8ish Final Fantasy games, 3 MGS games, and Shadow of Collosus) so HD space might be tight, especially with the need to install PS3 games. Thanks in advance!
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Hey guys just got a ps3 slim yesterday. However I bought no games and decided to try out a demo first. About ten minutes after d/loading the first demo (Infamous) did I realise that I've been crying about playing the MLB 2k series for the past 3 years, and wanted to play MLB09 The Show. So i started d/loading the 09 demo and decided to cancel the infamous demo. I know on the 360 and PC when you cancel a demo d/load, the incomplete file remains on your hard drive. Is this the case for the PS3 and if so how do i delete it? thanks in advance
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[QUOTE="TKandPBC"][QUOTE="BenderUnit22"]They'd lose a lot more revenue than Sony from that move.BenderUnit22
I think you're missing the point. It doesnt matter how much revenue they make if they can't turn a profit. They could make $10,000,00 in revenue, but if it costs $20,000,000 to develop the game, they're still in the red.

ActiBlizzard doens't make PS3 games though, they make multiplatform titles. That means aside from porting the game over and making sure everything runs on all platforms, a lot of the cost is split across all systems. The same assets are used for all platforms, the same marketing campaign is used for multiple products, etc.

Yes, but apparently to reconfigure a game so that it's compatible with the cell, as well as the BluRay format are both quite expensive.
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They'd lose a lot more revenue than Sony from that move.BenderUnit22
I think you're missing the point. It doesnt matter how much revenue they make if they can't turn a profit. They could make $10,000,00 in revenue, but if it costs $20,000,000 to develop the game, they're still in the red.
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#8 TKandPBC
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Alright so first I'm sure all of you have read the article on ActivisionBlizzard threatening to drop PS3 support. If you haven't, here it is: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6212246.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=topstory&tag=topstory;title Now about the article, I'm sure that NOBODY wants to see this happen. We like console wars because it makes competition among the console manufacturers to create bigger, better stuff. We don't want to see a console die outright. But this topic isn't a discussion about the article, it's about finding a solution to the problem. ActivisionBlizzard is the largest 3rd part dev in the world, and if they complain the PS3 is too expensive to make games for, you know you have a problem. So, common sense says to cut costs. How? Well I say devs start manufacturing games in DVD-9 format for the PS3. Now I'll admit, I'm not very well educated on the topic of PS3 game development. However, it is undeniable that the Blu-Ray format is much more expensive than the DVD-9 format. I'm pretty sure that it was Hudson that said the BluRay format was too expensive for them to develop for (correct me if I'm wrong). And if the 360 can be so successful with DVD-9s, why cant the PS3? Devs that need the BluRay (MGS4) can use it if they want to, and devs that don't need BluRay aren't going to be forced to pay more to develop a game that they can easily fit on a DVD-9. So, what do you think?
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we get a custom robo sequel.
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#10 TKandPBC
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[QUOTE="TheFiyaH"]Survival horror, actual SURVIVOR horror. None of this action horror crap like SH:H and RE5

I would love to see more mech fighting games. The 360 just doesn't have that many robot fighting games

StarStunna
+ 1 to both of them. Whatever happened to games like REmake and RE0? And about mech fighting games, I've been praying for something like custom robo to come out on the 360 for the longest time. I dont think that they're making a wii sequel and any video game with the name "gundam" on it seems like an auto failure these days.