[QUOTE="Timstuff"] There's no such thing as a vestigal structure. Any "vestigal structure" you can name does actually have a purpose. withouthatred
A simple example would be the legs inside of snakes, they serve no purpose, and would not harm it if they were removed.Snakes need them to make baby snakes. They use them to "scoot over" during intercourse. Yes, the snake can live without his legs. But he's not going to be getting any.
[QUOTE="Timstuff"]There is no evidence of a big bang. withouthatred
I just mentioned some, can you read?The theory came first, and then they found things to support it. The "evidence" of which you speak can be applied to many different theories of cosmic creation though.
[QUOTE="Timstuff"]The theory only exists because evolutionists can't come up with something better. withouthatred
It exists becouse of the evidence I previously mentioned, scientists recognized and formed it into a theory, if it's not true though, how do you think their keeping the hundreds of thousands of scientists and engineers all over the globe from spilling the beans. No seriously I'm interested in what you have to say about your wackjob conspiracy theor.I'd hardly call it a conspiracy theory, just ignorance. There is nothing being hidden away, it's just that the scientists choose to believe what they want to. There are no beans to spill, it's just that the idea of a big bang has been hammered into people's heads for so long that they don't care about exploring the alternative.
[QUOTE="Timstuff"]DNA is meaningless when comparing species. Humans share more genetic information with a squirrel than a chimp, and we also share 50% of the our DNA with a common bananna.withouthatred
It's very useful infact, for example the neanderthal has different D.N.A. then we do, all species have the same start and end dna codons suggesting a similar background, junk D.N.A. and redundant D.N.A. show that species currentally do not use all the D.N.A. that has existed throughout their ancestory.Natural selection and micro evolution are observable scientific fact, I will not argue that. What I will argue against though is the idea that it's possible for natural selection to create new genetic information, because from everything we've observed, all it can do is weed out useless information, like a thick fur coat on a desert animal, or a stout beak on a bird that's primary diet will be insects. There has not been a single mutation recorded in all of history that has done anything other than harm the organism.
[QUOTE="Timstuff"]And theists who believe in evolution only believe it because they either caved into peer pressure instead of researching the facts for themselves, withouthatred
Somehow I doubt you have, have you taken a biology class in college or a.p. bio in Highschool? I thought not. The theists who accept it are just the ones who have stopped living in the dark ages and are intelligent enough to not deny it in the face of overwhelming evidence.I know all about evolution, which is why I rejected it. I explored the scientific theories of creationism, and they are infinantly more satasfying for me. My dad is an expert on both, and he's actually held debates with college professors in campus auditoriums on multiple occasions.
[QUOTE="Timstuff"]or they aren't a very serious Christian to begin with. withouthatred
I wasn't aware that ignorence was part of being a Christian, but whatever....It's not ignorance. Evolution was made popular because it allowed ignorance of the bible as a moral standard, and it also undermines the primary philosophy behind the bible-- that man is special, and that he was made with a purpose. That idea is impossible if you believe that man evolved from a single celled organism, because it means that we are only seperated from the animals because we've had more opertunities to evolve.
[QUOTE="Timstuff"]The bible said that pain an suffering is the result of man's sin, and if there was pain and suffering before man existed (which there would be if Evolution is true), then that is impossible.withouthatred
Garden of Eden can explain this......Okay, so where does the garden of eden fit in with the theory of evolution? If there was no death before Adam and Eve's original sin, then how could evolution take place? Whenever I talk to a Christian evolutionist about this, they always melt like butter.
btw, keep in mind that if you deny evolution, you really aren't any better than these people, and all denying evolution really does is make both you and other Christians look ignorant, good job.withouthatred
That is quite possibly the most ignorant statement of all.
I believe that when evolutionists hear christians say they don't believe in evolution, they automatically assume we do not believe in natural selection or micro evolution on any level at all. That is purely asinine though. We DO beleive in science, but we do not let things that cannot be proven alter our faith. Micro evolution is proven, and can be observed. Large scale evolution is only a theory, and there is not enough evidence for it to move beyond that. It's not observable, because either it doesn't happen, or it doesn't happen anymore.
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