Hmmm... I've looked at Ratchet an Clank and see two problems-

1.It's not on the 360

2.It doesn't seem much like a platformer, in the same way that SW: Force Unleashed wasn't a platformer. I think people just see cartoony characters in a 3rd person perspective and think 'platformer'.

I'm not saying that you can't have weapons etc in a platformer, that's fine. What you do need is PLATFORMS, between which the character is meant to navigate. A platformer should be essentially a virtual obstacle course, like Takeshi's Castle.

I do accept that Prince of Persia and Mirror's Edge are essentially platformers, but Mirror's Edge is in 1st person so a little odd. I guess I just want Mario on the 360! lol I know, your gonna say "get a bloody Wii then, idiot", but I can't afford to go buying every console out there just to get a couple of games. I had a Wii but sold it cus once I'd beaten Mario Galaxy everything else was crap. I love the 360 and most of its games. I just feel that it really needs to diversify a bit. The PS3 has a more diverse library than the 360!

Also, if developers are happy to replicate FPS and Racers ad nauseam, why can't they do a few similar platform games! Surely Microsoft can see from the success of Mario Galaxy that a classic platformer done well can still sell millions?

EDIT: I realise that you weren't suggesting R&C as a 360 platformer, but rather as an example of what can be done this gen.

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[QUOTE="DecadesOfGaming"]

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DecadesOfGaming

O.K..

Consider myself better informed now you've spoken on behalf of the postee.

lol

There are still no decent (or any?) 3D platformers on the 360. Can't we at least get one? Some of the Sonic games are the closest things but they're pretty crap, and there is Crash Bandicoot but again that looks pretty bad.

Any one else want to see a decent proper platformer on the 360, or is it just me?

Also, I think Platformers need to reassert themselves as a defined gaming genre, as 'platformer' seems to be the generic term used for any game that doesn't fall into the FPS, racing, sports categories.

Kameo is not a platformer.

Crackdown is not a platformer.

BK: N&B is not a platformer!

A platformer is a game where your primary objective is to navigate an increasingly difficult and complex series of 'platforms', where skillful, precise, and often quick jumping is key. Mario is the definition of platforming, as is the older Sonic games, as are things like Alex Kid and Donkey Kong Country and Banjo Kazooee.

Galalxy an MP3 deffinately look a lot better than their GC counter parts.

The reason the wii graphics aren't as big a jumo ahead as the other 2 consoles are is because nintendo opted to advance the hardware less than Soniy and MS to keep the price down

BuryMe

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Man, is everyone on this forum retarded? I mean, can any of you actually read, or did you all just get in a tizz as soon as someone was questioning your precious beloved console?

First off- The dude said right at the start that he could see that Mario Galaxy was "noticably better" graphically than Sunshine. So stop going on about how obvious the difference is, you're only argiung with yourself.

Secondly- As far as I remember, he didn't mention anything about wanting 'more realistic' graphics, so why keep going on about that?

Thirdly, the guy has every right to question the Wii's graphical performance- everyone keeps saying it's atleast twice as powerful as the GC, so why aren't we seeing twice as good looking games all the time? (THERE ARE SOME DECENT LOOKING GAMES ON THE WII, but not as many as there should be.)

It's now 2009 and we still haven't seen any games that have really surpassed SMG, and very very few that come close, and alot that are worse than PS2 / GC standards.

Now to make matters worse, forgetting about graphics for a second, there aren't many games of high gameplay standards coming out either- say, 1 every 4 months, if that.

Now, when the Wii is still £179, and a X360 is £129; and Wii games tend to be more expensive than X360 games, I really think these questions need to keep being asked.

gamefan67

Rapture was good in Bioshock, I would like to live there.

Spira in FFX was pretty

and the wasteland in Fallout 3

Slashfan10

The Wasteland from Fallout 3. It's so eerily beautiful.

yokofox33