@Bowser05: Truth is demos have made me not buy many more games than made me buy. in fact all of the sports demo games gave me my fill...demos of intricate world story games are hard to judge based on 1hr of gameplay. not to mention all the effort to bring a demo to production value when its only a slice of the game and perhaps not even the end product.

i was hoping II had a more robust bot mode or modes. in fact be able to play all modes in bot mode.

it seems if arcade mode is scaled down from even Battlefront from last year. boo....

any one any one. sony 930c tv. HDR not working.........windows 10 creators edition. its washed out.....ive tried everthing. same crap with mass effect...its enabled in the game but washed out just like the desktop with hdr on in windows....what the hell tried multiple cable. 4:2:2 10 bit tried to leave it on auto detect. blah blah just sick of hdr not working....

so i have a 1080ti i7 4770k overclocked. forza auto set my detail to low quality dynamic optimization and lower res.....i basically had to disable everthing and max out manually all the setting to get it to look great.....this isnt the only game to do this. what the hell. how can i trust a game to dynamically max out visual vs performance if it isnt even close to knowing what my machine is?????

termintator salvation was the last one i enjoyed.....im so done with arnie in these films.....

john wick 1 was amazing.

2 was just ok it was more like the middle part of 1. very weird. all action.

hopefully 3 has some more personality than 2.

@metallinatus: prequels were terrible.

@bignick217: totally agree

@Shadonic: controller use on pc MP shooter great way to be dead last...everytime.

its worthless to use a controller and play MP shooter on pc. especially if no aim assist available.

its like they made destiny to be super cpu dependent, on consoles with weak cpus. while many many other fps multiplayer had no problem with the consoles 1080p(and not cpu bound). now that this engine is on pc, even very average pcs are having a very easy time with it.

just curious why the hell the engine is so cpu bound over other very nice looking shooter MP games, especially when the only platform destiny was written for was/cpu weak.....weird

of course that same engine doesnt really take advantage of the capability of ps4 pro or especially xox scorpio....