Playstation Move - 4.1 Million in Two Months

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"] Bu Bu Bu life time sales...hexashadow13

yeah, let's compare consoles which have been released for 4 and 5 years to peripherals that have been released for 1 and 2 months... :roll:

yep, seems many are upset that sony has yet to catch up.

lol, no lemming here buddy.

if you honestly want to compare 5 year old consoles to 2 month old peripherals to make yourself feel better, by all means go right ahead. :)

btw, amazing sales by sony....

good maybe now the game will come..... I play to get one when Killzone 3 comes out anyways.

Move - 4.1 Million in Two Months

Kinect - 2.5 Million in 25 Days

Definitely.

KodiakGTS

yeah, let's compare consoles which have been released for 4 and 5 years to peripherals that have been released for 1 and 2 months... :roll:

yep, seems many are upset that sony has yet to catch up.

would the navigation controller count for this number as well? doesn't say. either way most ppl will be getting 2 move controllers and up to 4 while only one kinect so the numbers can't be compared 1 for 1.Ontain

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Move - 4.1 Million in Two Months

Kinect - 2.5 Million in 25 Days

Definitely.

tormentos

Not to mention that each individual SKU for Move counts as a sale. So every Wand, every Nav controller, every starter pack, and every Eye counts as a Move sale.

Those Kinect numbers are even more impressive when you factor in most Move owners have bought at least two Wands. I know 1 person who owns 8 wands so he can have 4 players play together.

I never said every PS3 owner bought at least two wands, but many have. I just bought a starter pack and an extra wand for example. Although I'm sure some people only have one wand.

As far as the guy I know that bought 8 wands. That's the truth. I forgot about the 7 controller limitation on the PS3, so I guess he can't use them all at once, but he did buy 8 of the wands when they first went on sale. I guess I will have to ask him how that worked out, next time I talk to him. Maybe he returned one, or just kept it as a spare. I'm not sure. I just was pointing out that he bought 8.

Even ignoring the guy with 8 wands you have to admit that people have bought multiple wands for use with Move, and it's very unlikely that people have bought multiple Kinects.

▲ The people buying this are the type of people who will buy anything that makes them go "OMG kewl, I get to use motioned controls durr." No logical gamer would ever buy this mess. Move and Kinect have no decent games. Why spend 100$+ on something that has no good games. I just don't get it.

The people buying this stuff arent traditional gamers. They're casuals in every sense of the word. They'll take a gimmick from a foot to a mile. ▲

People thought these would flop? Aren't there casual gamers on both systems? Have they not learned from the Wii?

That doesnt mean 4.1 million move ready ps3s.

Hell that could be 2.05 million move ready ps3s with 2 controllers per ps3.

EdenProxy

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

yeah, let's compare consoles which have been released for 4 and 5 years to peripherals that have been released for 1 and 2 months... :roll:

yep, seems many are upset that sony has yet to catch up.

lazerface216

lol, no lemming here buddy.

if you honestly want to compare 5 year old consoles to 2 month old peripherals to make yourself feel better, by all means go right ahead. :)

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"] Wait, so lemming think they can apply their logic to whatever they think it applies to? Wow... lemming :Dhexashadow13

lol, no lemming here buddy.

if you honestly want to compare 5 year old consoles to 2 month old peripherals to make yourself feel better, by all means go right ahead. :)

lol lemming logic. what does this word mean? did you make this up?

...and to end it with a "cool story bro"...c'mon.

I full expected Move and Kinect to sell as much they have in this launch period leading up to Christmas. But I am confident this success is short lived and both peripherals will fall off the radar by Spring. This isn't going to be like the Wii which had high demand a year after release, consumers just like buying any new tech but the two devices will find it very hard to sustain these sales in a couple of months when interest is dropped by the masses, guaranteed.

TBH, no where is it stated in the official press release "sold". PR is smart and used the word "reached".

Nice PR spin it's probably just "sold to retailers" aka "shipped".

Recarnator

Sony is making a profit on every Move controller sold. From what I see myself and what I read, they are hard to find in stores......and some are selling a higher price on EBay....so although we don't know if they are just shipped or what ever...I'm guessing it is close to that #.

also imo, if a customer decides to shell out another $50 for a extra Move controller, I'm guessing they like it enough to where they will most likely buy more games for it.....and at the end of the day that is what is more important.

Why does buying multiple pieces of hardware all of a sudden matter now?FIipMode

I full expected Move and Kinect to sell as much they have in this launch period leading up to Christmas. But I am confident this success is short lived and both peripherals will fall off the radar by Spring. This isn't going to be like the Wii which had high demand a year after release, consumers just like buying any new tech but the two devices will find it very hard to sustain these sales in a couple of months when interest is dropped by the masses, guaranteed.

Swift_Boss_A

i agree 100% with everything you posted. some quality titles from either side could change that scenario a bit though.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Not to mention that each individual SKU for Move counts as a sale. So every Wand, every Nav controller, every starter pack, and every Eye counts as a Move sale.

Those Kinect numbers are even more impressive when you factor in most Move owners have bought at least two Wands. I know 1 person who owns 8 wands so he can have 4 players play together.

coasterguy65

I never said every PS3 owner bought at least two wands, but many have. I just bought a starter pack and an extra wand for example. Although I'm sure some people only have one wand.

As far as the guy I know that bought 8 wands. That's the truth. I forgot about the 7 controller limitation on the PS3, so I guess he can't use them all at once, but he did buy 8 of the wands when they first went on sale. I guess I will have to ask him how that worked out, next time I talk to him. Maybe he returned one, or just kept it as a spare. I'm not sure. I just was pointing out that he bought 8.

Even ignoring the guy with 8 wands you have to admit that people have bought multiple wands for use with Move, and it's very unlikely that people have bought multiple Kinects.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Lems definitely got owned here no question.finalstar2007

Move - 4.1 Million in Two Months

Kinect - 2.5 Million in 25 Days

Definitely.

Did MS count the thousands of kninect hardware they gave away for free to people as sold? anyone know? :P

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Lems definitely got owned here no question.waltefmoney

Move - 4.1 Million in Two Months

Kinect - 2.5 Million in 25 Days

Definitely.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Lems definitely got owned here no question.seabiscuit8686

Move - 4.1 Million in Two Months

Kinect - 2.5 Million in 25 Days

Definitely.

My question is why are move games not selling well. Kinect games are charting UK but not a single move game is found. Perhaps things are different in japan but eye pet(moves best selling game in September) only sold 30k move launch month in u.s.MFDOOM1983

Kinect games are only 2 in top 40 in UK. They dont chart in any other EU nation at all. PS move games range from original titles to patched games. Make of it what you will

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Lems definitely got owned here no question.seabiscuit8686

Move - 4.1 Million in Two Months

Kinect - 2.5 Million in 25 Days

Definitely.

I was expecting more since they're counting each controller separately. If we assume people on average buy just 2 controllers then we have half the number of actual units sold. themyth01

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Lems definitely got owned here no question.blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="themyth01"] I was expecting more since they're counting each controller separately. If we assume people on average buy just 2 controllers then we have half the number of actual units sold. tormentos

lol sure. why not...

[QUOTE="themyth01"] I was expecting more since they're counting each controller separately. If we assume people on average buy just 2 controllers then we have half the number of actual units sold. tormentos

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

I full expected Move and Kinect to sell as much they have in this launch period leading up to Christmas. But I am confident this success is short lived and both peripherals will fall off the radar by Spring. This isn't going to be like the Wii which had high demand a year after release, consumers just like buying any new tech but the two devices will find it very hard to sustain these sales in a couple of months when interest is dropped by the masses, guaranteed.

lazerface216

i agree 100% with everything you posted. some quality titles from either side could change that scenario a bit though.

And I'll have to third this. Unless some major killer apps are released on both, I honestly do see the success carrying into next year.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Lems definitely got owned here no question.TintedEyes

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="themyth01"] I was expecting more since they're counting each controller separately. If we assume people on average buy just 2 controllers then we have half the number of actual units sold. themyth01

glad to hear that

hope those developers would speed up and release more Move titles

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Lems definitely got owned here no question.TintedEyes

neither are really moving consoles though, that's what really matters.

That doesnt mean 4.1 million move ready ps3s.

Hell that could be 2.05 million move ready ps3s with 2 controllers per ps3.

EdenProxy

[QUOTE="themyth01"] I was expecting more since they're counting each controller separately. If we assume people on average buy just 2 controllers then we have half the number of actual units sold. tormentos

TC why dont you put 4.1 million shipped because many people believe it was 4.1 million sold and thats definately not the case

neither are really moving consoles though, that's what really matters.

Phaze-Two

Holiday season will tell all as far as that goes, but I kind of disagree with this statement. Kinect is going for $150 and cost about $60 to make. We don't know that info about Move, but if there is a good profit margin there, than it does matter. Maybe not as much as moving consoles, but it does matter.

[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Move - 4.1 Million in Two Months

Kinect - 2.5 Million in 25 Days

Definitely.

tormentos

Link to the article that show each and every move owner bought 2 controllers,that is like saying that for 4 player gaming each kinect owner most have bought a 2nd 360 with 2 kinect cameras,which mean that kinect owners are just 1.25 million owners intead of 2.5 millions assming is fun.

Some bought 4, some 3, some 2, some one - called an educated estimate of the average...

And there are no 4 player kinect game as kinect only supports 2 players (presently)

I'm impressed, i thought kinect would sell more :o

Now, keep in mind that Sony calculates a sale of the wand and nuncheck as 2 individual move sales, but good sales nonetheless.lhughey

4.1 Million is sold to retailers not end users (Link). 2.5 million Kinects are to end users (Link)

Two things, while there are 2.5 million Kinects in homes, there are 4.1 million Moves on store shelves and to piggyback off of lhughey, an owner needs to buy more than one Move controller to play some games (to say none of these multiwand games have been sold is unrealistic) and there are inevitably people who have purchased 4 or more Move components (Wands & Nunchucks), meaning 4.1 million Moves could potentially represent a smaller install base than 2.5 million Kinects.

Sitting on the store shelf doesn't mean much. If the Move doesn't sell, a retailer can pull it and return them to Sony for refunds or vendor credits.

While 4.1 million in 2 months is impressive (shipped or sold), 2.5 million in 25 days is more impressive.

Please change title, Move has not sold 4.1 it has shipped 4.1 to retailers, this isnt how many they sold to customers

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Lems definitely got owned here no question.waltefmoney

Move - 4.1 Million in Two Months

Kinect - 2.5 Million in 25 Days

Definitely.