Playstation Move - 4.1 Million in Two Months

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="tbolt76"]

TintedEyes, take off your Sony colored glasses and read thisand that.

Note the quote in this - "A Sony representative explained that the 4.1 million actually represents Move units shipped to stores"

Now note the quote in that - "We are thrilled about the consumer response to Kinect, and are working hard with our retail and manufacturing partners to expedite production and shipments of Kinect to restock shelves as fast as possible to keep up with demand."

Again, each company knows exactly how many of what they have sold to end users (sell through reports). They either decide whether or not to release those figures. In this specific case, MS released their sell-through numbers while Sony countered with releasing their sale (channel sales/sales to retailers) numbers. The difference is that in 6 months 1 3.1 million Move controllers could still be sitting on shelves, while the 2.5 million Kinects are in 2.5 million homes.

tbolt76

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="tbolt76"]

TintedEyes, take off your Sony colored glasses and read thisand that.

Note the quote in this - "A Sony representative explained that the 4.1 million actually represents Move units shipped to stores"

Now note the quote in that - "We are thrilled about the consumer response to Kinect, and are working hard with our retail and manufacturing partners to expedite production and shipments of Kinect to restock shelves as fast as possible to keep up with demand."

Again, each company knows exactly how many of what they have sold to end users (sell through reports). They either decide whether or not to release those figures. In this specific case, MS released their sell-through numbers while Sony countered with releasing their sale (channel sales/sales to retailers) numbers. The difference is that in 6 months 1 3.1 million Move controllers could still be sitting on shelves, while the 2.5 million Kinects are in 2.5 million homes.

delta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Lol, neither company knows how many units have sold to consumers.ianuilliam

That move sold through number is bogus. Its provided by VGchartzx. Its absolutely meaningless because all they do is guess work. They have no data for EU US nor Asia.

Kinect and xbox 360 is out of stock in US Amazon, so i guess that one sell huge for sureSacredMG

[QUOTE="SacredMG"]Kinect and xbox 360 is out of stock in US Amazon, so i guess that one sell huge for sureianuilliam

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[QUOTE="SacredMG"]Kinect and xbox 360 is out of stock in US Amazon, so i guess that one sell huge for sureblackace

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="SacredMG"]Kinect and xbox 360 is out of stock in US Amazon, so i guess that one sell huge for sureblackace

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Lol, neither company knows how many units have sold to consumers.-Snooze-

Not having enough stock would lose you money. Only a a poorly managed store would allow itself to ever completely run out of stock and an item in demand. Common sense would dictate that they order new stock when current stock is below a certain point, and a large demand is still expected.

So MS and Sony can NEVER be 100% sure how many of their hardware has been sold to a customer. Thety can make very accurate estimates though.

*facepalm* 4.1 million SOLD TO RETAILERS. NOT CONSUMERS.

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="ianuilliam"]I just went on Amazon... and found 360s, 360 kinect bundles, and kinects by themselves, all in stock....

ianuilliam

*facepalm* 4.1 million SOLD TO RETAILERS. NOT CONSUMERS.

HailedJohnDman

[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

*facepalm* 4.1 million SOLD TO RETAILERS. NOT CONSUMERS.

ianuilliam

[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

*facepalm* 4.1 million SOLD TO RETAILERS. NOT CONSUMERS.

ianuilliam

in that case kinect units must be like what 5-6 million with that logic?

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] They probably got more in. They were completely out of stock on Saturday 11/27 (day after Black Friday). Most retailers get in restock on Tues or Wed. Check Amazon again on Saturday and see if they are still in stock. Move shipped 4.1 million in 2 months. Kinect sold 2.5 million in 25 days. That's 5 million in 50 days if the same pace continues, which it probably will. So 5 million in left then 2 months. blackace

As for Kinect selling out before Black Friday, that's not that uncommon for a new electronic device either. Often supplies are short, and also, it can take some time for retailers to get a feel for demand, resulting in temporary sell-outs between shipments. When all is said and done though, it's not like Kinect is selling out everywhere and staying that way. I have yet to walk into Target or WalMart where I live and not see any on the shelf, and whenever I randomly look it up online, I've been able to find them in stock as well. Maybe I'm just randomly always checking the day they get new stock in?

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[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

*facepalm* 4.1 million SOLD TO RETAILERS. NOT CONSUMERS.

HailedJohnDman

in that case kinect units must be like what 5-6 million with that logic?

[QUOTE="KevinnButlerNPK"][QUOTE="blackace"] They probably got more in. They were completely out of stock on Saturday 11/27 (day after Black Friday). Most retailers get in restock on Tues or Wed. Check Amazon again on Saturday and see if they are still in stock. Move shipped 4.1 million in 2 months. Kinect sold 2.5 million in 25 days. That's 5 million in 50 days if the same pace continues, which it probably will. So 5 million in left then 2 months. AncientDozer

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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]*facepalm* Retailers don't keep buying products if they aren't selling. As Sony said, when they clarified the numbers as sold to retailer, "the key is that our retailers continue to ask for more Move units and are taking every unit we can supply them with based on their sales." The reason they use shipped numbers is the same reason all companies use them in their fiscal reports. They are more accurate. There is no way to reliably track worldwide sell-through data.

ianuilliam

in that case kinect units must be like what 5-6 million with that logic?

so, would you agree that kinect is still more successful than the move?

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[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

in that case kinect units must be like what 5-6 million with that logic?

HailedJohnDman

so, would you agree that kinect is still more successful than the move?

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

so, would you agree that kinect is still more successful than the move?

MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Not really. It may be selling at a faster rate at the moment, but it is still behind (going purely by the numbers that each company has shared; anything else is speculation). 360 fans like to pull the "ps3 is still third in sales" card, despite the fact that ps3 has been selling at a faster rate ever since it was released, so by that logic, Kinect is in last place.

Chutebox

who cares about which sold more. they both competing to keep up with the wii, they both sold ok for peripherals with lackluster lineups.

all i know is that in my store we barely get any moves or kinects everywhere else idk but congratulation sony and ms i guess

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[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

*facepalm* 4.1 million SOLD TO RETAILERS. NOT CONSUMERS.

HailedJohnDman

in that case kinect units must be like what 5-6 million with that logic?

i mean come on, its obvious that kinect sold more than move HailedJohnDman

I'm very surprised by that, I thought with the larger amount of 360 owners, more advertising, and more appeal to the demographic (more casual gamers own 360s than PS3s on average), that Kinect would outsell Move by 2:1 or more. I have yet to buy mine though.

[QUOTE="tbolt76"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Lol, neither company knows how many units have sold to consumers.ianuilliam

of course they do, if you send out 2.5 million units and everyone comes back saying they need more then it's common sense to assume that they have run out because they have sold all of there stock so common sense would tell you that there are 2.5 million units sitting in peoples home, it's basic maths and common sense ,loldelta3074

Companies nowadays are very good at anticipating demand and units shipped now equals units sold more than ever. Try buying a Move controller on Amazon right now and you'll see what kind of demand there really is.