PC Gaming Is So Dead That 63% Of American Gamers Game on PC

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#101 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] Of course its arbitrary, I'm just giving the hermits who are stupid enough to make grand claims a hard time since they base it on nothing but a few passing articles that don't prove it and their ego.

lx_theo

And yet you haven't said a damn thing of value or proven anything in this thread. 

I haven't made any claims besides pointing out issues with other's claims, what would I have to prove? I haven't even said they're wrong. Just making stupid people prove their claims.

Exactly. You haven't provided anything of value to this discussion. Only trolled others.

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#102 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="Gargus"]

 

Steam for instance requires an online connection, so 6 million is their total user base.

 

 

lx_theo

 

Are you a moron?

He makes a fair point. Even single player users will be counted for steam when that is not the case for Xbox, PSN, and Wii. Not to mention, it may count people who simply have the application open and are not playing as well for Steam. Many variables to consider. By the way, you have yet to provide any sources for any of those, so it hardly matters.

 

6million concurrent =/= 6 million total user base.

 


Stop being an idiot, trolly.

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#103 pcgamingowns
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5% play real games

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#104 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="kalipekona"]

And yet you haven't said a damn thing of value or proven anything in this thread. 

kalipekona

I haven't made any claims besides pointing out issues with other's claims, what would I have to prove? I haven't even said they're wrong. Just making stupid people prove their claims.

Exactly. You have provided anything of value to this discussion. Only trolled others.

Pretty sure asking fanboys to prove their claims is not trolling. Not really sure what you think is trolling is.
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#105 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

 

Are you a moron?

Jankarcop

He makes a fair point. Even single player users will be counted for steam when that is not the case for Xbox, PSN, and Wii. Not to mention, it may count people who simply have the application open and are not playing as well for Steam. Many variables to consider. By the way, you have yet to provide any sources for any of those, so it hardly matters.

 

6million concurrent =/= 6 million total user base.

 


Stop being an idiot, trolly.

I didn't say it was the total userbase, he did. His point of single player gamers and many others being counted when many won't be on the others is valid, though.
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#106 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="Gargus"]

 

Steam for instance requires an online connection, so 6 million is their total user base.

 

 

lx_theo

 

Are you a moron?

He makes a fair point. Even single player users will be counted for steam when that is not the case for Xbox, PSN, and Wii. Not to mention, it may count people who simply have the application open and are not playing as well for Steam. Many variables to consider. By the way, you have yet to provide any sources for any of those, so it hardly matters.

One thing to add, Steam requires at least one game to use all the features. XBL also requires an XBL Gold account to use things like Netfilx etc. I know plenty of people who have XBL Gold accounts yet do nothing but watch Netfilx on their Xbox's.
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#107 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

More sales. 

More gamers.

More games.

More exclusives.

More developers.

 

 

Cry more :lol: 

Jankarcop

How's that petition for GTA: V going? And the petition for RDR?

 

going?

It's going great. When hanging out with friends and even women, we can play Tekken, some couch-op Rayman Origins, some Ultimate Marvel, some Street Fighter and have a blast. I can't even imagine I'd have to hang out with people and have them play DOTA or LoL, hunched over a tiny computer screen you payed with the money for your tuition (assuming you've had any education at all) fees. :cool:
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#108 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

 

Are you a moron?

clyde46
He makes a fair point. Even single player users will be counted for steam when that is not the case for Xbox, PSN, and Wii. Not to mention, it may count people who simply have the application open and are not playing as well for Steam. Many variables to consider. By the way, you have yet to provide any sources for any of those, so it hardly matters.

One thing to add, Steam requires at least one game to use all the features. XBL also requires an XBL Gold account to use things like Netfilx etc. I know plenty of people who have XBL Gold accounts yet do nothing but watch Netfilx on their Xbox's.

True. There are a lot of variables to consider, making a direct comparison sort of stupid. Then again, that particular fanboy still refuses to provide sources for his claims, so its not like there are any legitimate comparisons here for that to compromise anyways.
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#109 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] How's that petition for GTA: V going? And the petition for RDR?DrTrafalgarLaw

 

going?

It's going great. When hanging out with friends and even women, we can play Tekken, some couch-op Rayman Origins, some Ultimate Marvel, some Street Fighter and have a blast. I can't even imagine I'd have to hang out with people and have them play DOTA or LoL, hunched over a tiny computer screen you payed with the money for your tuition (assuming you've had any education at all) fees. :cool:

I have great fun taking my PC to LANS with my friends. What ya talking aboot?!
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#110 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] How's that petition for GTA: V going? And the petition for RDR?DrTrafalgarLaw

 

going?

 baby-crying_2442222b.jpg

 


Rofl you mad that PC is #1 :lol:

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#111 kalipekona
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I think a better test is to look at the displays in stores like Walmart and Gamestop.

No disrespect to the PC but it's game section in most stores comes off as an afterthought.

d_parker

Oh jeeze. 

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#112 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

 

going?

Jankarcop

 baby-crying_2442222b.jpg

 


Rofl you mad that PC is #1 :lol:

Mad? I'm just entertained that a monkey like you is parading around fighting imaginary foes. :cool:
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#113 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] How's that petition for GTA: V going? And the petition for RDR?DrTrafalgarLaw

 

going?

It's going great. When hanging out with friends and even women, we can play Tekken, some couch-op Rayman Origins, some Ultimate Marvel, some Street Fighter and have a blast. I can't even imagine I'd have to hang out with people and have them play DOTA or LoL, hunched over a tiny computer screen you payed with the money for your tuition (assuming you've had any education at all) fees. :cool:

Surprisingly, you can hang out with people without playing video games

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#114 clyde46
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Resorting to baby pictures now are we?
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#115 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]  baby-crying_2442222b.jpgDrTrafalgarLaw

 


Rofl you mad that PC is #1 :lol:

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQP-Km2eRQkjTneqW_QFyY

Lmao the tears don't end. Don't worry, its projected PC wins next gen too.

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#116 Jankarcop
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Resorting to baby pictures now are we?clyde46

 

I notice you didn't care that he started the whole "girls nerd virgin" trolling before I started that.

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#117 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] He makes a fair point. Even single player users will be counted for steam when that is not the case for Xbox, PSN, and Wii. Not to mention, it may count people who simply have the application open and are not playing as well for Steam. Many variables to consider. By the way, you have yet to provide any sources for any of those, so it hardly matters.lx_theo

 

6million concurrent =/= 6 million total user base.

 


Stop being an idiot, trolly.

I didn't say it was the total userbase, he did. His point of single player gamers and many others being counted when many won't be on the others is valid, though.

But it should also be noted that Steam =/= all of PC gaming.

And regardless there are also the people who use Steam in offline mode not being counted in the total.

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#118 Jankarcop
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No consolite has been able to prove the OP wrong. Or that PC has the most revenue.

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#119 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Resorting to baby pictures now are we?Jankarcop

 

I notice you didn't care that he started the whole "girls nerd virgin" trolling before I started that.

Its called "Rising above". Something you obviously never learn't as we are posting babies crying in place of users posts that don't agree with our agenda.
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#120 lx_theo
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To note (for future generations): the deluded PC fanboy known as Jankarcop has devolved from a state of making unbacked claims and proclaiming dominance, to simply declaring dominance with no other backing. It seems its ability to form complete thoughts has deteriorated.

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#121 Jankarcop
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I provided plenty of facts. Now you're just trolling me so I'll go ahead and post pictures to laugh at you.

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#122 DarthRamms
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No surprise pc software sale was 20 billion in revenue during 2012 I notice that some people keep on saying it adds facebook games and shit first of all Facebook games are free unless somehow count items purchases or credits :roll:

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#123 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Resorting to baby pictures now are we?clyde46

 

I notice you didn't care that he started the whole "girls nerd virgin" trolling before I started that.

Its called "Rising above". Something you obviously never learn't as we are posting babies crying in place of users posts that don't agree with our agenda.

So you're crying that I'm not feeding the troll?

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#124 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

 

6million concurrent =/= 6 million total user base.

 


Stop being an idiot, trolly.

Ly_the_Fairy

I didn't say it was the total userbase, he did. His point of single player gamers and many others being counted when many won't be on the others is valid, though.

But it should also be noted that Steam =/= all of PC gaming.

And regardless there are also the people who use Steam in offline mode not being counted in the total.

True, and in the same vein as my response to Clyde's follow up earlier, this does demonstrate that there are enough variables between systems that a fair, direct comparison would be impossible.
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#125 clyde46
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To note (for future generations): the deluded PC fanboy known as Jankarcop has devolved from a state of making unbacked claims and proclaiming dominance, to simply declaring dominance with no other backing. It seems its ability to form complete thoughts has deteriorated.

lx_theo
There's a reason we call Jankarcop "The hermit town buffoon".
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#126 lx_theo
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I provided plenty of facts. Now you're just trolling me so I'll go ahead and post pictures to laugh at you.

Jankarcop
You posted one, 3 year old chart. Try again little hermit.
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#127 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

To note (for future generations): the deluded PC fanboy known as Jankarcop has devolved from a state of making unbacked claims and proclaiming dominance, to simply declaring dominance with no other backing. It seems its ability to form complete thoughts has deteriorated.

clyde46

There's a reason we call Jankarcop "The hermit town buffoon".

You know he's trolling right?

You're looking pretty stupid right about now. 

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#128 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

I provided plenty of facts. Now you're just trolling me so I'll go ahead and post pictures to laugh at you.

lx_theo

You posted one, 3 year old chart. Try again little hermit.

 

It proved me right. What facts did you post?

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#129 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

To note (for future generations): the deluded PC fanboy known as Jankarcop has devolved from a state of making unbacked claims and proclaiming dominance, to simply declaring dominance with no other backing. It seems its ability to form complete thoughts has deteriorated.

clyde46
There's a reason we call Jankarcop "The hermit town buffoon".

Well earned, well earned.
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#130 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

 

I notice you didn't care that he started the whole "girls nerd virgin" trolling before I started that.

Jankarcop

Its called "Rising above". Something you obviously never learn't as we are posting babies crying in place of users posts that don't agree with our agenda.

So you're crying that I'm not feeding the troll?

They are trolling you because you have failed to provide any concrete evidence to back your claims up and now are resorting to moving the goals and spinning things.
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#131 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

I provided plenty of facts. Now you're just trolling me so I'll go ahead and post pictures to laugh at you.

Jankarcop

You posted one, 3 year old chart. Try again little hermit.

 

It proved me right. What facts did you post?

It didn't. You made many claims that were completely unrelated to it,. For the ones you did, the date of it makes it inaccurate and unable of proving any of them. Try again, little hermit.
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#132 clyde46
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

I provided plenty of facts. Now you're just trolling me so I'll go ahead and post pictures to laugh at you.

Jankarcop

You posted one, 3 year old chart. Try again little hermit.

 

It proved me right. What facts did you post?

A piechart from 2010 is not sufficient evidence.
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#133 Jankarcop
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Get stomped:

 

 

 

2010_video_game_revenue.jpg

 ESAGraph-670x407.jpgfinancegraph.jpg

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#134 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

To note (for future generations): the deluded PC fanboy known as Jankarcop has devolved from a state of making unbacked claims and proclaiming dominance, to simply declaring dominance with no other backing. It seems its ability to form complete thoughts has deteriorated.

clyde46
There's a reason we call Jankarcop "The hermit town buffoon".

He went as far as giving out dating tips to consolites the last time he went on a crusade against imaginary foes. Buffoon is just an understatement.
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#136 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Its called "Rising above". Something you obviously never learn't as we are posting babies crying in place of users posts that don't agree with our agenda. clyde46

So you're crying that I'm not feeding the troll?

They are trolling you because you have failed to provide any concrete evidence to back your claims up and now are resorting to moving the goals and spinning things.

Hell, I'm not even trying to troll. All I have done is ask for him to provide backing to his claims. If he did provide real, concrete evidence, then I would have said okay and left ages ago.
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#137 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] You posted one, 3 year old chart. Try again little hermit.clyde46

 

It proved me right. What facts did you post?

A piechart from 2010 is not sufficient evidence.

 

Why doesn't he have to post any evidence? Isn't he the one who has to show the OP's post was invalid rather me showing the OP is valid?

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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] You posted one, 3 year old chart. Try again little hermit.clyde46

 

It proved me right. What facts did you post?

A piechart from 2010 is not sufficient evidence.

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#139 Jankarcop
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4 reserach companies vs. SW users not giving any counter evidence?

What the **** is going on :lol: 

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#140 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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This thread is pretty big, what'd I miss? consolite tears? 

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#141 clyde46
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Get stomped:

 

 

 

2010_video_game_revenue.jpg

 

Again with this chart. Its too old.

 ESAGraph-670x407.jpg

And this graph shows?

 

financegraph.jpg

Projected, provide some facts please.

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Jankarcop

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#142 TheFadeForever
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] You posted one, 3 year old chart. Try again little hermit.clyde46

 

It proved me right. What facts did you post?

A piechart from 2010 is not sufficient evidence.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/03/06/gdc-2012-pc-games-raked-in-18-6-billion-in-2011/

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-28-pc-software-hit-record-USD20b-revenue-in-2012

I think this is better

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#143 DrTrafalgarLaw
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Get stomped:Jankarcop

Get stomped by graphs that do not even have names for both the X and Y-axis, by graphs that do not indicate location (U.S., Europe, Worldwide?), by graphs that do not even differentiate by Digital Download, Retail or perhaps even both? You never wrote a paper, did you?

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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Its called "Rising above". Something you obviously never learn't as we are posting babies crying in place of users posts that don't agree with our agenda. clyde46

So you're crying that I'm not feeding the troll?

They are trolling you because you have failed to provide any concrete evidence to back your claims up and now are resorting to moving the goals and spinning things.

Actually he has. It's the people claiming that PC revenue is only high because of casual FB games that have failed to provide a single shred of evidence.

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#145 lx_theo
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Get stomped:

 

 

 

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1cdb17dd-05bb-453b-8cdc-b1f0eb5e9dc4.jpg

Jankarcop

The same pie chart from 2009

A bar chart that has no origin to speak of

A chart from 2010 with projections for the next two years.

And a broken image...

 

You do realize these all have the same issue the original pie chart had, right? Except the broken image. That isn't even anything. I also wonder if you even remember the claims you need to prove, since the new ones that works (one from this thread by the way) adds nothing to the evidence of any of those claims.

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#146 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

 

It proved me right. What facts did you post?

Jankarcop

A piechart from 2010 is not sufficient evidence.

 

Why doesn't he have to post any evidence? Isn't he the one who has to show the OP's post was invalid rather me showing the OP is valid?

You started with the claim, he asked for evidence, you gave none.
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#147 Jankarcop
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Lmao Clyde being tricked by trolls, what an idiot.

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#148 Gargus
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A study carried out by the Entertainment Software Association found that even in the US the PC nearly matches all home consoles combined in terms of gaming use. Other studies have shown that overall revenue generated on the PC in 2013 is on track to outpace all consoles combined.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/07/14/pc-gaming-is-so-dead-that-63-of-american-gamers-game-on-pc-beating-smartphones-and-handhelds/

The fact that the PC is a highly thriving game platform isn't news to most of us, but for those of you still in doubt...well, there you go.

kalipekona

You do realize the reason why it is 63% is because all of the people who play farmville while at work on their company computers count right? All the people who play solitare and minesweeper? All the people who play angry birds in their browser for free? All the free browser based kids games? Desktop tower defense? Bejeweled and other pop cap casual games that millions of moms play on their laptops also count. When a indie bundle of cheap little smart phone level games sells with like 5 or 10 games in it for a penny on humble indie bundle each of those games count.

Bottom line is the majority of "PC gamers" in statistics are people who play cany crush saga or games of thrones on facebook while at work, moms who play bookworm on their laptops, and kids who play angry birds or one of its million clones.

If you took away casual gaming PC gaming statistics would be under 10%.

How many games each year win game of the year awards and 100% completely PC exclusive games?

2013 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/winners.html 1 pc exclusive

2012 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/2012winners.html no pc exclusive games.

2011 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/2011winners.html 1 pc exclusive

Well.....you get my point.

You are posting facts in the improper light. You take a very vauge and shadowed statistic with no break downs and you post it as absolute truth. The only fact is you wouldnt even be able to post your graph without middle aged housewives that are addicted to facebook and play chefville.

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#149 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

 

It proved me right. What facts did you post?

TheFadeForever

A piechart from 2010 is not sufficient evidence.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/03/06/gdc-2012-pc-games-raked-in-18-6-billion-in-2011/

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-28-pc-software-hit-record-USD20b-revenue-in-2012

I think this is better

That is how you back up your claims!
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#150 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

 

It proved me right. What facts did you post?

TheFadeForever

A piechart from 2010 is not sufficient evidence.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/03/06/gdc-2012-pc-games-raked-in-18-6-billion-in-2011/

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-28-pc-software-hit-record-USD20b-revenue-in-2012

I think this is better

 

It doens't count because SW trolls say it doens't.