PC Gaming Is So Dead That 63% Of American Gamers Game on PC

A study carried out by the Entertainment Software Association found that even in the US the PC nearly matches all home consoles combined in terms of gaming use. Other studies have shown that overall revenue generated on the PC in 2013 is on track to outpace all consoles combined.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/07/14/pc-gaming-is-so-dead-that-63-of-american-gamers-game-on-pc-beating-smartphones-and-handhelds/

The fact that the PC is a highly thriving game platform isn't news to most of us, but for those of you still in doubt...well, there you go.

And that China and Korea all primarily PC gamers make up half the gaming market alone.

What qualifies as "game on PC"? Do Facebook games and solitaire mean you're a PC gamer?

Or do you have to play games like, for instance, StarCraft II?

All that graph proves is that gamers have played a game on the pc. I'm not a PC gamer but I have played games on my pc before.

It wouldn't surprise me.

Where I live, of the dozens of people I've met in the last few years, almost every one was a PC gamer. Just random people that I met, and had really no intention of ever playing games with, and we only happened onto the conversation of gaming by chance. Some of them are console gamers too, but PC is definitely their mainstay.

Only a tiny handful are actual console gamers.

That's all? 

RIP Hermits

What qualifies as "game on PC"? Do Facebook games and solitaire mean you're a PC gamer?

Or do you have to play games like, for instance, StarCraft II?

R3FURBISHED

I game on PC. Liked to see consoles match these graphics:

Here's also some cool stats, although a bit older. It bisically says PC games sold more than console games.

Open image in new tab to view it zoomed in.

People have been saying that "PC gaming is dying" for years, have been saying "console gaming is going to die/go away" during the days of the NES, etc. and then there are those who called video games a fad for as long as they have existed.  

Yeah, they're all wrong.

if you think that is a big percentage then look at this.

100%.

there.

beat that shyt if you can.

let my lack of caring continue

What qualifies as "game on PC"? Do Facebook games and solitaire mean you're a PC gamer?

Or do you have to play games like, for instance, StarCraft II?

R3FURBISHED

LoL and WoW alone have more active players than xbla and psn COMBINED.

This alone should answer your question. 

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

What qualifies as "game on PC"? Do Facebook games and solitaire mean you're a PC gamer?

Or do you have to play games like, for instance, StarCraft II?

Jankarcop

LoL and WoW alone have more active players than xbla and psn.

This alone should answer your question. 

But how much of that is Facebook games and things like that? I imagine it is wuite a bit of the %.

But I still don't think PC gaming is dying in any way.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

What qualifies as "game on PC"? Do Facebook games and solitaire mean you're a PC gamer?

Or do you have to play games like, for instance, StarCraft II?

lx_theo

LoL and WoW alone have more active players than xbla and psn.

This alone should answer your question. 

By active I meant concurrent.

Noone cares about Jimmy and his 10  old PSN account he never touches.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

What qualifies as "game on PC"? Do Facebook games and solitaire mean you're a PC gamer?

Or do you have to play games like, for instance, StarCraft II?

lx_theo

LoL and WoW alone have more active players than xbla and psn.

This alone should answer your question. 

yeah, i have a feeling he's wrong, but there are/were 32 million active players in LoL a month, and 12 million daily active players. Which is ridiculous for one game

http://www.destructoid.com/league-of-legends-has-32-million-monthly-active-players-236618.phtml

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

LoL and WoW alone have more active players than xbla and psn.

 

This alone should answer your question. 

Jankarcop

By active I meant concurrent.

Noone cares about Jimmy and his 10  old PSN account he never touches.

This part of the infographic is particulary interesting

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[QUOTE="lx_theo"] Feel free to provide official numbers for all of those. Remember, you said active and current.lx_theo

By active I meant concurrent.

Noone cares about Jimmy and his 10  old PSN account he never touches.

3 million concurrent for LoL

Playing MineSweeper makes you a gamer now?

Top concurrent users:

PC:

3million LOL

6million STEAM

1million WoW

Console:

2million PSN

3million XBL

I'm sure alot of people are logging in Steam to play Minesweeper.

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

What qualifies as "game on PC"? Do Facebook games and solitaire mean you're a PC gamer?

Or do you have to play games like, for instance, StarCraft II?

Jankarcop

LoL and WoW alone have more active players than xbla and psn COMBINED.

This alone should answer your question. 

Leage of Legends has around 32 million active monthly accounts (as of Oct 12, 2012)
World of Warcrafts numbers have dropped since 2010, after Mists of Panderia launched, WoW was ~10 million subscribers 

As far as I can tell, we don't know "active" XBL and PSN numbers.

XBL is around 48 million accounts
PSN is around double that of XBL (but thats because people have multiple accounts)

---and we don't know how many PSN+ or XBL Gold accounts

:lol: lol people bringing up facebook games wonder how much of that made up the 20b revenue PC software sale made last year :roll: I guess fb games produce billions of dollars each year

:lol: lol people bringing up facebook games wonder how much of that made up the 20b revenue PC software sale made last year :roll: I guess fb gmes billions of dollars each year

 CroidX

When you take out facebook games, PC revenue is still twice as much as *each console.  But it loses when you combine all 3+handhelds.

5vs1 ftl?

This part of the infographic is particulary interesting

IgGy621985

if you think that is a big percentage then look at this.

100%.

there.

beat that shyt if you can.

Riverwolf007

Top concurrent users:

PC:

3million LOL

6million STEAM

1million WoW

 

Console:

2million PSN

3million XBL

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure alot of people are logging in Steam to play Minesweeper.

Jankarcop

[QUOTE="CroidX"]

:lol: lol people bringing up facebook games wonder how much of that made up the 20b revenue PC software sale made last year :roll: I guess fb gmes billions of dollars each year

 Jankarcop

When you take out facebook games, PC revenue is still twice as much as *each console.  But it loses when you combine all 3+handhelds.

5vs1 ftl?

Except I highly doubt fb generate billions of dollars even big MMO like world of warcraft only generates a little bit over a billion people are just looking for excuses to downgrade pc gaming

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

This part of the infographic is particulary interesting

lx_theo

Yeah, it was already cropped.

PC = 30% (Take out mobile, casual, and social.)

Console = 43% (Including all consoles and handhelds, and all casual/social games for them)

PC beats out every single console. And thats with me taking out alot of actual PC games.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="CroidX"]

:lol: lol people bringing up facebook games wonder how much of that made up the 20b revenue PC software sale made last year :roll: I guess fb gmes billions of dollars each year

 CroidX

When you take out facebook games, PC revenue is still twice as much as *each console.  But it loses when you combine all 3+handhelds.

5vs1 ftl?

Except I highly doubt fb generate billions of dollars even big MMO like world of warcraft only generates a little bit over a billion people are just looking for excuses to downgrade pc gaming

[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

A study carried out by the Entertainment Software Association found that even in the US the PC nearly matches all home consoles combined in terms of gaming use. Other studies have shown that overall revenue generated on the PC in 2013 is on track to outpace all consoles combined.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/07/14/pc-gaming-is-so-dead-that-63-of-american-gamers-game-on-pc-beating-smartphones-and-handhelds/

The fact that the PC is a highly thriving game platform isn't news to most of us, but for those of you still in doubt...well, there you go.

Gargus

You do realize the reason why it is 63% is because all of the people who play farmville while at work on their company computers count right? All the people who play solitare and minesweeper? All the people who play angry birds in their browser for free? All the free browser based kids games? Desktop tower defense? Bejeweled and other pop cap casual games that millions of moms play on their laptops also count. When a indie bundle of cheap little smart phone level games sells with like 5 or 10 games in it for a penny on humble indie bundle each of those games count.

Bottom line is the majority of "PC gamers" in statistics are people who play cany crush saga or games of thrones on facebook while at work, moms who play bookworm on their laptops, and kids who play angry birds or one of its million clones.

If you took away casual gaming PC gaming statistics would be under 10%.

How many games each year win game of the year awards and 100% completely PC exclusive games?

2013 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/winners.html 1 pc exclusive

2012 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/2012winners.html no pc exclusive games.

2011 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/2011winners.html 1 pc exclusive

Well.....you get my point.

You are posting facts in the improper light. You take a very vauge and shadowed statistic with no break downs and you post it as absolute truth. The only fact is you wouldnt even be able to post your graph without middle aged housewives that are addicted to facebook and play chefville.

yea like you can prove its under 10% and why does GOTY even matter their tons of good games that never gotten GOTY

[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

A study carried out by the Entertainment Software Association found that even in the US the PC nearly matches all home consoles combined in terms of gaming use. Other studies have shown that overall revenue generated on the PC in 2013 is on track to outpace all consoles combined.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/07/14/pc-gaming-is-so-dead-that-63-of-american-gamers-game-on-pc-beating-smartphones-and-handhelds/

The fact that the PC is a highly thriving game platform isn't news to most of us, but for those of you still in doubt...well, there you go.

Gargus

You do realize the reason why it is 63% is because all of the people who play farmville while at work on their company computers count right? All the people who play solitare and minesweeper? All the people who play angry birds in their browser for free? All the free browser based kids games? Desktop tower defense? Bejeweled and other pop cap casual games that millions of moms play on their laptops also count. When a indie bundle of cheap little smart phone level games sells with like 5 or 10 games in it for a penny on humble indie bundle each of those games count.

Bottom line is the majority of "PC gamers" in statistics are people who play cany crush saga or games of thrones on facebook while at work, moms who play bookworm on their laptops, and kids who play angry birds or one of its million clones.

If you took away casual gaming PC gaming statistics would be under 10%.

How many games each year win game of the year awards and 100% completely PC exclusive games?

2013 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/winners.html 1 pc exclusive

2012 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/2012winners.html no pc exclusive games.

2011 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/2011winners.html 1 pc exclusive

Well.....you get my point.

You are posting facts in the improper light. You take a very vauge and shadowed statistic with no break downs and you post it as absolute truth. The only fact is you wouldnt even be able to post your graph without middle aged housewives that are addicted to facebook and play chefville.

E3 awards? they're not even for completed games

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Top concurrent users:

PC:

3million LOL

6million STEAM

1million WoW

 

Console:

2million PSN

3million XBL

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure alot of people are logging in Steam to play Minesweeper.

lx_theo

Search each line in google, there will be about 20 sources for each.

All that graph proves is that gamers have played a game on the pc. I'm not a PC gamer but I have played games on my pc before.

deangallop

Quit trying to spin it. The same standard applies to all platforms. 

Does someone have to be a hardcore gamer to game on a console? Does the fact that people play some simplistic indie games on consoles nullify their value as a gaming platform?

People have all kinds of rationilzations to support their pre-conceived notions about PC gaming, but the facts are the facts. The PC is a thriving gaming platform.

[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

A study carried out by the Entertainment Software Association found that even in the US the PC nearly matches all home consoles combined in terms of gaming use. Other studies have shown that overall revenue generated on the PC in 2013 is on track to outpace all consoles combined.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/07/14/pc-gaming-is-so-dead-that-63-of-american-gamers-game-on-pc-beating-smartphones-and-handhelds/

The fact that the PC is a highly thriving game platform isn't news to most of us, but for those of you still in doubt...well, there you go.

Gargus

You do realize the reason why it is 63% is because all of the people who play farmville while at work on their company computers count right? All the people who play solitare and minesweeper? All the people who play angry birds in their browser for free? All the free browser based kids games? Desktop tower defense? Bejeweled and other pop cap casual games that millions of moms play on their laptops also count. When a indie bundle of cheap little smart phone level games sells with like 5 or 10 games in it for a penny on humble indie bundle each of those games count.

Bottom line is the majority of "PC gamers" in statistics are people who play cany crush saga or games of thrones on facebook while at work, moms who play bookworm on their laptops, and kids who play angry birds or one of its million clones.

If you took away casual gaming PC gaming statistics would be under 10%.

How many games each year win game of the year awards and 100% completely PC exclusive games?

2013 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/winners.html 1 pc exclusive

2012 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/2012winners.html no pc exclusive games.

2011 http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/2011winners.html 1 pc exclusive

Well.....you get my point.

You are posting facts in the improper light. You take a very vauge and shadowed statistic with no break downs and you post it as absolute truth. The only fact is you wouldnt even be able to post your graph without middle aged housewives that are addicted to facebook and play chefville.

 

 

PC = 30% (Take out mobile, casual, and social.)

Console = 43% (Including all consoles and handhelds, and all casual/social games for them)

 

 

 

PC beats out every single console. And thats with me taking out alot of actual PC games.

Jankarcop

Do you enjoy being proven wrong?

Oh and exclusives? PC has more good and above exclusives than all 3 consoles combined this gen...

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Top concurrent users:

PC:

3million LOL

6million STEAM

1million WoW

 

Console:

2million PSN

3million XBL

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure alot of people are logging in Steam to play Minesweeper.

Jankarcop

Search each line in google, there will be about 20 sources for each.

[QUOTE="CroidX"]

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

 

When you take out facebook games, PC revenue is still twice as much as *each console.  But it loses when you combine all 3+handhelds.

 

5vs1 ftl?

lx_theo

Except I highly doubt fb generate billions of dollars even big MMO like world of warcraft only generates a little bit over a billion people are just looking for excuses to downgrade pc gaming

No I am not just guessing because after looking at revenue information on major facebook game publisher like Zynga from sources like this http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-01-facebook-q1-game-revenue-up-12-percent-zynga-down-37-percent making me believe tht fb games do not make up a huge percentage of pc gaming revenue like some people supposedly claim on system war.

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="CroidX"]

 

Except I highly doubt fb generate billions of dollars even big MMO like world of warcraft only generates a little bit over a billion people are just looking for excuses to downgrade pc gaming

 

CroidX

No I am not guessing because after looking at revenue on major facebook game publisher like Zynga http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-01-facebook-q1-game-revenue-up-12-percent-zynga-down-37-percent making it highly doubtful fb games make up huge percentage og pc gaming revenue like some people supposedly claim on system war

ITT: Hermits trying to get PC gaming acknowledged, how pathetic. Even moreso when nobody really cares about the state of PC gaming and nobody says PC gaming is dying. Dig up the last thread saying that PC gaming is dying, I dare you.

Hermits fighting imaginary foes again. And yes Steam has a lot of users, as a matter of fact...I have three seperate Steam accounts, mainly for trading purposes.

ITT: Hermits trying to get PC gaming acknowledged, how pathetic. Even moreso when nobody really cares about the state of PC gaming  gaming is dying.

 

:cry:

DrTrafalgarLaw

More sales. 

More gamers.

More games.

More exclusives.

More developers.

Cry more :lol: 

[QUOTE="CroidX"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] "Highly doubt" just means you're guessing in the same way the guy you are criticizing did and admitted he was.lx_theo

No I am not guessing because after looking at revenue on major facebook game publisher like Zynga http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-01-facebook-q1-game-revenue-up-12-percent-zynga-down-37-percent making it highly doubtful fb games make up huge percentage og pc gaming revenue like some people supposedly claim on system war

There are other sources I look up as well I don't feel like going to the website and posting those links its pretty much easy to find with a simple google search http://allthingsd.com/20110907/electronic-arts-becomes-second-largest-social-games-company-after-zynga/

[QUOTE="CroidX"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] "Highly doubt" just means you're guessing in the same way the guy you are criticizing did and admitted he was.lx_theo

No I am not guessing because after looking at revenue on major facebook game publisher like Zynga http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-01-facebook-q1-game-revenue-up-12-percent-zynga-down-37-percent making it highly doubtful fb games make up huge percentage og pc gaming revenue like some people supposedly claim on system war

I posted a pie chart proving him right, would you stop making yourself look stupid?

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

 

Search each line in google, there will be about 20 sources for each.

lx_theo

This really doesn't validate a single point, but just shows the discussion is a bit arbitrary.

[spoiler]

Leage of Legends has around 32 million active monthly accounts (as of Oct 12, 2012)
World of Warcrafts numbers have dropped since 2010, after Mists of Panderia launched, WoW was ~10 million subscribers 

As far as I can tell, we don't know "active" XBL and PSN numbers.

XBL is around 48 million accounts
PSN is around double that of XBL (but thats because people have multiple accounts)

---and we don't know how many PSN+ or XBL Gold accounts

R3FURBISHED

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="CroidX"]

 

No I am not guessing because after looking at revenue on major facebook game publisher like Zynga http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-01-facebook-q1-game-revenue-up-12-percent-zynga-down-37-percent making it highly doubtful fb games make up huge percentage og pc gaming revenue like some people supposedly claim on system war

 

 

 

CroidX

There are other sources I look up as well I don't feel like going to the website and posting those links its pretty much easy to find with a simple google search