How long will it take for PC to catch up to Xbox One X?

Nope, I called quadknight quad%%%% while you cows got away with ronbot and wrongvalencia.

I called you quad4h*t and I got moderated while you got away your insult.

@drlostrib:I'm surprised too lol.

? Maybe he got banned because his insults were too shitty even for the mods.

you called him "Quad percent" and got banned? That does seem harsh

Again, you're defending "According to Ronvalencia's ""Nothing Can touch the Xbox One X" Theory about 600 years.." BS. This is not system war anymore.

You're a double standard hypocrite.

? Told you your butthurt insults were shitty. Looks like the mods thought so as well.

That's making fun of your name and ridiculous posts. Not an insult, not an inflammatory insult anyway.

Also, I'm not a cow, I'm a hermit. Never owned a console a day in my life.

You seem confused, this is System Wars, it says so right at the top of the page

I used Tormentos for tormentos and there's no name calling. cow ass.

Please stop disrupting this System Wars thread with your Poster Wars

Wait, just "Quad percent"? They must have changed the rules. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me.

Lol, you're comebacks are getting pretty bad. What's next? "Takes one to know one!!!!"

I called quadkinght Quad5hi7 after He started the flamewar.

Stop being a bias hypocrite. If somebody attacks me, I will retaliate. If somebody is prepared to dish it against somebody, expect a return.

Edit: Before you go trying to look cool on the internet you might wanna know the difference between "you're" and "your", just saying.

Ron just got back from a ban after having a meltdown arguing with me. I suggest you learn from his example before you get sent on a vacation like he did.

? You claim cows are butthurt when all I see is you and your fellow lems like Ronbot having a meltdown in this thread.

I think your keyboard is broken, that doesn't spell anything

This is System Wars not Poster Wars

? Nah he called me "Quadshit" and that's why he got banned. I told him the insult was pretty shitty at the time and lacked originality, looks like the mods agreed.

This thread might be getting locked Soon™ if this keeps up.

Tell that to tormentos

That's enough of the posting he-said, she-said, and name-calling. Back on topic, please.

XD Nice Thread

But yeah, even a 1060 will be stronger than X1X

We'll have to wait until the XB1X releases to see if it's possible to build a comparable $500 pc at this moment.

Them performance comparisons.

@zassimick said:

That's enough of the posting he-said, she-said, and name-calling. Back on topic, please.

Seriously guys, it's not Poster Wars

It will be sad if it ends up like the PS4/X1 being beaten by a 750ti

Atm, there's only two direct sources for equivalency with GTX 1070.

Both RX-580 and R9-390X couldn't do Ultra setting solid 30 fps GOW4 campaign mode and XBO version is already mostly high settings. https://www.gamespot.com/profile/ronvalencia/blog/gears-of-war-4-xbox-one-x-and-gtx-1070-level/26089514/ X1X's graphics settings are higher than PC's "high" settings.

DF already done X1X's Titanfall 2 i.e. missing AO and GTX 1070 version from https://youtu.be/qcUv0flLKsA with AO was unable to reach solid 60 fps.

You forgot the dinosaurs

PS4 beats 750 Ti with Doom 2016.

You can buy a UHD bluray player for much less, such as the Xbox One S. Why spend more for a bluray player that plays blurays exactly the same as the cheaper bluray player?

You certainly don't buy Xbox One for the games (nogameslol)

XBO S has support for Atmos

bestbuy has $199.99 new 4K blu-ray player.

LMFAO!!! This thread is gold!!

@drlostrib: When will an Xbox 1 X be as valuable as a PC 200-300 more than its cost?

I mean, pure CONSOLE games (with no exclusives) being that great for that price is ok for the 1 system or more casual audience... but beyond that, the XB1X holds less value.

£450 in the UK.

for £700 you can build a PC with an i7 8 threads, 1070 GTX and a good size SSD...

A system with far more games.... and far more non-gaming features that are actually useful... but hey.

neat

So it's going to be a while before they're about the same price?

A long while,

But the latter is by far the better value device, so in the grand scheme of things... that extra is worth it

that's up to each individual buyer, this thread is just about matching price for performance

You're right in your original Post you stated "build a PC for the same price".

The comparison you're making should imo be apples to apples.

Before I clicked on this thread I thought you were messing around but this is actually a legitimate question you pose here. The answer is soon(i'll explain later) but actually really never. Because anyone who builds a gaming PC for $500 is doing it just to prove a point and is a dumbass because of all the crippling sacrifices they'd be making. Even with all of those sacrifices it can still never really be $500 because most of the time you are not factoring in the OS, decent keyboard, mouse and an Xbox One Controller.

However, when you can buy a GPU with GTX 1070 power for ~ $200 - $250, then you will start to see those threads about a PC build that is only $500 but destroys an X1X. You will see PC GPUs with that level of performance and price point when Nvidia updates their GPUs early next year. I am sure AMD will follow shortly thereafter.

Final point, I don't expect an X1X price drop anytime soon. It will be sold out for months I predict. It will be more difficult to find than a Nintendo Switch in it's first year. There will be plenty of time for Hermits to litter this board with threads about those $500 PC builds that beat the X1X come early next year.

The multi-threading programming model (via heavy compute shader usage path) on Doom PS4 is very good i.e. very near solid 60 fps 1080p. Expect nothing less from ex-Crytek (CryEngine 2) programmer lead team.

Expect IDsoftware's games to run optimally on AMD hardware post Doom 2016.

sweet

@drlostrib: trololol

@xboxiphoneps3

You can load Windows 10 for free as a completely functioning OS. Not to mention the price varies wildly if you want to activate it.

Few modern PC cases have a 5.25" drive spot for Disc Drives. They are obsolete in the PC ecosystem because they can stream/load virtually any video codec, while the Xbox can't (because they want you to pay for overpriced physical media) I'm not adding unnecessary hardware to a PC build.

i3 = 115, budget chipset = 50, 8gb RAM = 50. Any rebates/combos/sales on Newegg will reduce the cost even further. Or you could use Ryzen 3.

8GB of RAM just ever barely cuts it for gaming now.

You're kidding right?

@drlostrib: it's difficult to discuss because cows are absolutely butthurt

Doesn't matter, I only have to upgrade my PC for $500, not buy a new one.

Also do not forget XBL price. It is required to take advantage of the XB1X's full hardware. That's another $700 per gen or $300 per cycle.

Oh and XB1X has many games stuck at 30 fps. NOPE NOPE NOPE.

outside of maybe Ron, they seem to be the only ones on this forum that keep bringing up comparisons to GTX 1070s and talk of "4K/60fps on Ultra in all games".. seems hilariously ironic that they are also the only ones that fell for this troll bait..

then you're in the wrong thread

The job of having a good job is that you can get Xbox1X, and Still have a high end PC that destroys it in every way imaginable.

I just repeated the arguments made by ARC Survival developer and DF.

I made X1X estimates from R9-390X's results with additional GPU improvements e.g. RBE with large cache, Polaris DCC, Polaris culling, higher clock speed for non-CU and 'etc'. Each improvements targets a particular weakness with Hawaii GPU.

Transistor count difference between X1X’s GPU and RX-480/RX-580

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10446/the-amd-radeon-rx-480-preview

RX-480/RX-580 has 5.7 billion transistors.

R9-290X/R9-390X has 6.2 billion transistors.

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/microsofts-scorpio-system-on-chip/

Xbox One X GPU has 7 billion transistors which points to GPU design not being RX-480/RX-580. X1X's GPU is slightly fatter Hawaii GCN with Polaris/Vega updates i.e. it's effectively the missing RX-490.

Lol, you're so childish... It's a typo

@xboxiphoneps3:

You can run unactivated for as long as you want with little compromise.

I can totally disregard the UHD/HDR Drive. PC can play UHD content from any digital source. X1X can play UHD/HDR content from the drive and a small amount of digital sources. It's a side grade. If you want to get chippy about the UHD/HDR drive and the value it presents I'd flip the argument on you to how much the PC can do that the Xbox can't. You'd lose. This is about gaming, not media content where the Xbox loses 99/100.

8gb is sufficient for console settings or above. 16gb isn't the standard. It's the performance maximum. No game that I know of sees any kind of tangible benefit with 32gb of RAM.

Before the miner craze the 1060 could be had for less than $250. The 1060 Pascal is more or less equivalent to the Maxwell 980. Volta is supposed to be a larger jump than Pascal so I have no doubt that the $200(ish) Volta card will supersede at least the 1070 and likely the 1080 as well. Far above the X1X.

Actually, I believe they changed that with Windows 10. You never have to activate it, but you will have that "Activate Windows" dialogue on the bottom right the whole time.