How long will it take for PC to catch up to Xbox One X?

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#51 mazuiface
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Nice work TC

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#52 DrLostRib
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@mowgly1 said:
@drlostrib said:

So we all know that X1X is bringing that 1070 power for 4k resolution for $500

Xbone fans still living in clouds i see

please stay on topic

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#53 DrLostRib
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@reduc_ab_ said:

Ah, yes, the X1X. That console that can manage 4k 60fps mostly only on racing games and indies. When, oh when, will PC ever catch up.

read the thread

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#54 DrLostRib
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@ivangrozny said:

Xbox One X gpu is matching GTX 1070? only in your dreams, TC.

take it up with DF

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#55 deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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@drlostrib said:
@reduc_ab_ said:

Ah, yes, the X1X. That console that can manage 4k 60fps mostly only on racing games and indies. When, oh when, will PC ever catch up.

read the thread

Thread read. Using price to evade the shortcomings of the X1X is as transparent as, well, you, my transparent friend.

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#56 DrLostRib
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@reduc_ab_ said:
@drlostrib said:
@reduc_ab_ said:

Ah, yes, the X1X. That console that can manage 4k 60fps mostly only on racing games and indies. When, oh when, will PC ever catch up.

read the thread

Thread read. Using price to evade the shortcomings of the X1X is as transparent as, well, you, my transparent friend.

What's transparent? It's a fair question considering how often the subject of building a console equivalent PC comes up

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#57 DrLostRib
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@mazuiface said:

Nice work TC

don't know why discussion is so difficult for some people

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#58 blueinheaven
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PC runs all games better than Xbox One X. PC has tons of exclusives, Xbox One X has absolutely none. Not a single one.

What is this catching up you are wanting to do? Are you taking about the dead potato Xbox One X CPU that hilariously forces 30fps on any game with modern day visuals? The X is trying to 'catch up' to a PC from 10 years ago. Is that what you're after?

You need to be more clear about what this catching up thing means to you, since you've got the whole thing ass backwards.

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#59 DrLostRib
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@blueinheaven said:

PC runs all games better than Xbox One X. PC has tons of exclusives, Xbox One X has absolutely none. Not a single one.

What is this catching up you are wanting to do? Are you taking about the dead potato Xbox One X CPU that hilariously forces 30fps on any game with modern day visuals? The X is trying to 'catch up' to a PC from 10 years ago. Is that what you're after?

You need to be more clear about what this catching up thing means to you, since you've got the whole thing ass backwards.

did you try reading the thread?

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#60 blueinheaven
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@drlostrib said:
@blueinheaven said:

PC runs all games better than Xbox One X. PC has tons of exclusives, Xbox One X has absolutely none. Not a single one.

What is this catching up you are wanting to do? Are you taking about the dead potato Xbox One X CPU that hilariously forces 30fps on any game with modern day visuals? The X is trying to 'catch up' to a PC from 10 years ago. Is that what you're after?

You need to be more clear about what this catching up thing means to you, since you've got the whole thing ass backwards.

did you try reading the thread?

No, I just posted blindly with no clue at all what the thread was about. What do you think?

The X is a garbage budget PC with no games AT ALL outside of multiplats. No games and vastly inferior performance to a decent gaming PC most notably a frame rate crippling CPU.

'catch up' doesn't mean what you think it means.

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#61 JoshRMeyer
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If you want to discuss the X1X, why not make the thread in the Xbox section instead of System Wars. Same can be said for the "What's Sony got left" thread. A real discussion would be had in PlayStation Nation, not System Wars. You're trying really hard to push the X1X for whatever reason. But at least it's somewhat entertaining...1070 lol. To answer your question. By Summer of 2018 a $500 PC should be able to outperform the X1X price to performance.

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#62 PinkAnimal
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It depends if by GTX 1070 you mean ronvalencia then the answer is charts.

But in a more serious thematic, how much do you need to pay to match the Mighty Pro? $2000? $3000?

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#63  Edited By QuadKnight
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Nice try dude but I see through your weak trolling.

X1X does compare at all to a GTX 1070. It's more like a GTX 1060 and don't bring shitty FH3 wet tracks as your proof.

OP is doing his best Ron impression ?

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#64 DrLostRib
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@blueinheaven said:
@drlostrib said:
@blueinheaven said:

PC runs all games better than Xbox One X. PC has tons of exclusives, Xbox One X has absolutely none. Not a single one.

What is this catching up you are wanting to do? Are you taking about the dead potato Xbox One X CPU that hilariously forces 30fps on any game with modern day visuals? The X is trying to 'catch up' to a PC from 10 years ago. Is that what you're after?

You need to be more clear about what this catching up thing means to you, since you've got the whole thing ass backwards.

did you try reading the thread?

No, I just posted blindly with no clue at all what the thread was about.

seemed like it

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#65 blueinheaven
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@drlostrib said:
@blueinheaven said:
@drlostrib said:
@blueinheaven said:

PC runs all games better than Xbox One X. PC has tons of exclusives, Xbox One X has absolutely none. Not a single one.

What is this catching up you are wanting to do? Are you taking about the dead potato Xbox One X CPU that hilariously forces 30fps on any game with modern day visuals? The X is trying to 'catch up' to a PC from 10 years ago. Is that what you're after?

You need to be more clear about what this catching up thing means to you, since you've got the whole thing ass backwards.

did you try reading the thread?

No, I just posted blindly with no clue at all what the thread was about.

seemed like it

First time I've ever seen you trolling. I hope it's working out for you.

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#66 DrLostRib
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@joshrmeyer said:

If you want to discuss the X1X, why not make the thread in the Xbox section instead of System Wars. Same can be said for the "What's Sony got left" thread. A real discussion would be had in PlayStation Nation, not System Wars.

No this is the right place

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#67  Edited By DrLostRib
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@blueinheaven said:
@drlostrib said:
@blueinheaven said:
@drlostrib said:

did you try reading the thread?

No, I just posted blindly with no clue at all what the thread was about.

seemed like it

First time I've ever seen you trolling. I hope it's working out for you.

I guess if people can't bring themselves to read a thread then it's easier to just call it trolling

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@MonsieurX said:
@airraidjet said:

Moderately high-end gaming PCs are already more powerful than Xbox One X.

What are you trying to say?

Same power for the price of the X1

I hope you'll provide us with a Link to a PC that Runs games at or close to XB1X settings for $500 out of the box.

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#69 DrLostRib
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@EG101 said:
@MonsieurX said:
@airraidjet said:

Moderately high-end gaming PCs are already more powerful than Xbox One X.

What are you trying to say?

Same power for the price of the X1

I hope you'll provide us with a Link to a PC that Runs games at or close to XB1X settings for $500 out of the box.

you seem confused

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#70  Edited By EG101
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@joshrmeyer said:

If you want to discuss the X1X, why not make the thread in the Xbox section instead of System Wars. Same can be said for the "What's Sony got left" thread. A real discussion would be had in PlayStation Nation, not System Wars. You're trying really hard to push the X1X for whatever reason. But at least it's somewhat entertaining...1070 lol. To answer your question. By Summer of 2018 a $500 PC should be able to outperform the X1X price to performance.

I'm willing to wager that in 2018 you won't be able to walk into a store and come out with a $500 PC that can play games at XB1X settings out of the box. You might be able to build one at around $800 but it won't play UHD BluRay disks. You definitely are not going to walk into a store and buy a Pre built PC at even close to $800 and get XB1X Settings. The XB1X is a Great Value for any one that doesn't game on PC or for anyone that wants a UHD Player.

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#71 airraidjet
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Xbox One X GPU is closer to a GTX 980 from 2014.

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#72  Edited By Wizard
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X1X isn't a 1070. You can't compare TFLOPs to real game performance across architectures or brands unless you're just comparing actual floating point performance.

I expect no less than next year. GPU, RAM, and SSD prices have been massively inflated by supply shortages.

Volta GPU - $200, Decent PSU - $50, Motherboard/i3/RAM combo - $230, Decent SSD - $70. Case - $?

Solidly beat the One X. Probably cut more cost with mail in rebates and an HDD which should offset the cost of the case.

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#73  Edited By cainetao11
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@Juub1990: I've seen them too and no they do not. Until the console is actually out and we see how it performs in the real world speculating is meaningless. Don't start bringing Forza Horizon 3 wet tracks either."

Agreed. It's pointless right now to guesstimate. When the console comes out and devs continue to tinker with it we'll see what it is capable of over the next 3 years.

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I love these DRlostRib threads. It's really showing how terrible cows and hermits are. They're getting there panties in a knot over legitimate questions. I love it.

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#75 dxmcat
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PC is not defined to one particular set of hardware.

XB1 is.

Also. PC does not limit what you can and can not do on it.

XB1 does.

So I dont see how a limited platform (in both software and hardware) could be "ahead" in any way whatsoever.

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@primorandomguy said:

I love these DRlostRib threads. It's really showing how terrible cows and hermits are. They're getting there panties in a knot over legitimate questions. I love it.

*whoosh!*

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#77 Primorandomguy
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@treelog187: No. I understand he's trolling but it still doesn't Change the fact that users like blueinheaven, Bassman, reduc ab, and quackknight are losing their minds. I love it.

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#78 DrLostRib
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@dxmcat said:

PC is not defined to one particular set of hardware.

XB1 is.

Also. PC does not limit what you can and can not do on it.

XB1 does.

So I dont see how a limited platform (in both software and hardware) could be "ahead" in any way whatsoever.

No one is disagreeing that PC tech is ahead of X1X

Thread is about when PC will catch up to X1X in terms of price/performance

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@wizard said:

X1X isn't a 1070. You can't compare TFLOPs to real game performance across architectures or brands unless you're just comparing actual floating point performance.

I expect no less than next year. GPU, RAM, and SSD prices have been massively inflated by supply shortages.

Volta GPU - $200, Decent PSU - $50, Motherboard/i3/RAM combo - $230, Decent SSD - $70. Case - $?

Solidly beat the One X. Probably cut more cost with mail in rebates and an HDD which should offset the cost of the case.

it's not based on TFLOPS but rather statements from devs and people with hands on experience

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I hope it's probably at least 5 years.

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#81  Edited By QuadKnight
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@drlostrib: I haven't seen any reputable dev compare X1X to a GTX 1070. Ark devs aren't reputable, their game is an unoptimized POS on PC but you already know that.

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#82 PopGotcha
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10/10 bait. Can we have a Ron countdown on each thread for charts pls

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#83  Edited By kuu2
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No one trolls like the Dr.

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@quadknight said:

@drlostrib: I haven't seen any reputable dev compare X1X to a GTX 1070. Ark devs aren't reputable, their game is an unoptimized POS on PC but you already know that.

I've seen quotes from the dinosaur game and that guy who watched the wet track demos

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#85  Edited By QuadKnight
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@drlostrib said:
@quadknight said:

@drlostrib: I haven't seen any reputable dev compare X1X to a GTX 1070. Ark devs aren't reputable, their game is an unoptimized POS on PC but you already know that.

I've seen quotes from the dinosaur game and that guy who watched the wet track demos

? Good one.

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I'd say 1.5-2 years. Some games will just have shit PC versions, especially the Xbox App ones, and that'll help keep the comparison at that price bracket favorable longer

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#87 Wizard
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@drlostrib: You should point towards the source. Because those "Devs" and "People" sound really stupid. It's not like they've been wrong before. Multiple times...

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#88 PinchySkree
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Performance is only one aspect of a PC.

The utility is always worth the extra cost.

Right now the market has too many problems making predictions harder.

Then there's the fact the xbox library is poor so price cuts might come early.

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#89 Zero_epyon
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Thread of the month. Too bad the usual suspects didn't take the bait. Yet...

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@wizard said:

@drlostrib: You should point towards the source. Because those "Devs" and "People" sound really stupid. It's not like they've been wrong before. Multiple times...

those ARC guys, they work on both PC and X1X so they have hands on experience with both

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#91  Edited By JoshRMeyer
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@EG101: I still feel the $200(or less with the free games bundle) for an S with a 4k player is a better deal. I just don't think there will be enough difference visually. On paper it looks great, but in real life it doesn't seem that noticable (The graphics). The Pro is living example of this. The difference on paper is about 2 1/2 the GPU performance and better CPU speed but it's really hard to tell while gaming.

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#92 mowgly1
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@drlostrib said:
@mowgly1 said:
@drlostrib said:

So we all know that X1X is bringing that 1070 power for 4k resolution for $500

Xbone fans still living in clouds i see

please stay on topic

Got a problem with what i said? Yes, you, Xbone fans still living in clouds after all these years.

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#93  Edited By QuadKnight
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@drlostrib said:
@wizard said:

@drlostrib: You should point towards the source. Because those "Devs" and "People" sound really stupid. It's not like they've been wrong before. Multiple times...

those ARC guys, they work on both PC and X1X so they have hands on experience with both

? Some quality trolling you're doing here dude. I feel bad Ron hasn't fallen for this bait yet.

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@treelog187: No. I understand he's trolling but it still doesn't Change the fact that users like blueinheaven, Bassman, reduc ab, and quackknight are losing their minds. I love it.

Nah... the price/performance of the X1X is irrelevant as it fails in the performance department. So, there is no sense in comparing it with the price/performance of PC hardware. If the X1X was capable of 60fps in all games, then it would be a legit comparison.

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#95  Edited By QuadKnight
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@primorandomguy said:

@treelog187: No. I understand he's trolling but it still doesn't Change the fact that users like blueinheaven, Bassman, reduc ab, and quackknight are losing their minds. I love it.

You're a clown. I'm laughing at him, his trolling is obvious. How do my posts in this thread show I'm "losing my mind"? You clearly are a dumbass if you think I'm getting upset when I respond to the OP with posts like this...

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PC gamers are so defensive. The question is when will PCs be on par with the X for the same price. Or you give an example of a build or you accept that the X as better value. And it's ok to say that right now no one can really know. No need to go straight into damage control.

I really don't know. Would like DF to try to built a PC once it comes out.

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#97  Edited By QuadKnight
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@phbz: That's not the reason people are attacking OP. He started out the thread by saying we all know the XboneX is equivalent to a PC with a GTX 1070 when that's clearly a lie. OP is trolling and is a PC fanboy himself. He's just trying to get Wrongvalencia to come to the thread to post charts. We haven't seen Ron in a while so I guess OP misses arguing with him. Ron is probably busy or has been temporarily banned ?. He usually jumps in threads the moment someone mentions specs.

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@quadknight said:
@primorandomguy said:

@treelog187: No. I understand he's trolling but it still doesn't Change the fact that users like blueinheaven, Bassman, reduc ab, and quackknight are losing their minds. I love it.

You're a clown. I'm laughing at him, his trolling is obvious. How do my posts in this thread show I'm "losing my mind"? You clearly are a dumbass if you think I'm getting upset when I respond to the OP with posts like this...

you're trying really hard to show you're not upset though

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#99  Edited By skipper847
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The X1X will lower some visual graphics to make up for 4k res. My 1080 gtx i7 6700k 4.5 ghz and 16GB ram ddr4 cant do 4k max settings at 60fps plus. I have pre-ordered the Scorpio but I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed on the performance and not get steady FPS with less visuals and textures etc then PC.

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@quadknight: Now that you say that, I do miss the charts.☹