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#51 deuce4eva
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:| Why don't do this to us i hope my gm makes the right decision. I just want Lin back:(

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#52 Thefatness16
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Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.

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#53 TheWalkingGhost
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Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.

Thefatness16
Wonder if that makes Nash more likely to want to stay with them.
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#54 Silverbond
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Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.

Thefatness16
Gordon's an idiot. What in the hell is in Phoenix that isn't in New Orleans?
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#55 JML897
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Lack of hurricanes
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#56 Silverbond
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Then Stern better veto this sh1t for basketball reasons.
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#57 SilentSoprano
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So if the Nets manage to actually get Howard, they'll pretty much have gone from being one of the worst teams to one of the better teams, in a matter of a couple of weeks? Does anyone else find that ridiculous?

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#58 bobcheeseball
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[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.

Silverbond
Gordon's an idiot. What in the hell is in Phoenix that isn't in New Orleans?

His younger brother.
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/lakers-enter-fray-for-steve-nash/?ls=iref:nbahpt1 The Lakers seem to want Nash. But from that it seems neither the Knicks or Lakers could offer him much without a sign and trade. The Raptors kinda rained on NY's parade when they offered Fields $20 million. The Mavs also want Nash.

Do not want.
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#60 -Halftime-
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So if the Nets manage to actually get Howard, they'll pretty much have gone from being one of the worst teams to one of the better teams, in a matter of a couple of weeks? Does anyone else find that ridiculous?

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Happens all the time. Boston did in 2007, Phoenix did it when they first got Nash, the Heat, etc....
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#61 SilentSoprano
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/lakers-enter-fray-for-steve-nash/?ls=iref:nbahpt1 The Lakers seem to want Nash. But from that it seems neither the Knicks or Lakers could offer him much without a sign and trade. The Raptors kinda rained on NY's parade when they offered Fields $20 million. The Mavs also want Nash.-Halftime-
Do not want.

You don't want Nash on the Lakers?! How come?

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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/lakers-enter-fray-for-steve-nash/?ls=iref:nbahpt1 The Lakers seem to want Nash. But from that it seems neither the Knicks or Lakers could offer him much without a sign and trade. The Raptors kinda rained on NY's parade when they offered Fields $20 million. The Mavs also want Nash.SilentSoprano

Do not want.

You don't want Nash on the Lakers?! How come?

The Lakers need youth. Not a 38 year old point guard. Do not want.
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#63 bobcheeseball
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The Pacers are going to become the new Atlanta Hawks. I feel like our front office is just too conservative.
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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/lakers-enter-fray-for-steve-nash/?ls=iref:nbahpt1 The Lakers seem to want Nash. But from that it seems neither the Knicks or Lakers could offer him much without a sign and trade. The Raptors kinda rained on NY's parade when they offered Fields $20 million. The Mavs also want Nash.

Do not want.

Agreed. LA should just try to resign Sessions(Douche) and make some trades to free up cap room. Maybe even rework Kobe's contract.
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Might just keep an eye on Chris B's twitter to see if the Bulls match the Rockets offer to Asik.
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#66 No_Hablo_Ingles
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Might just keep an eye on Chris B's twitter to see if the Bulls match the Rockets offer to Asik. TheWalkingGhost
don't care unless you make a bet in the thread... Not interesting otherwise
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#67 SilentSoprano
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[QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"] Do not want.-Halftime-

You don't want Nash on the Lakers?! How come?

The Lakers need youth. Not a 38 year old point guard. Do not want.

Good point. You guys might be losing Bynum too (long shot) if the Magic get rid of Dwight, so a younger PG would definitely be necessary then.

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#68 ohjtbehaaave
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Question: What trio do you like better? Knicks- Melo, Amare and Chandler or Nets- D.Williams, J.Johnson and B.Lopez. I think the Nets trio has the better upside. Lopez(if he can stay healthy) will be able to improve his scoring even more with Defenses worried about Williams and Johnson. If they can somehow land D.Howard at the trading deadline the Nets would be the one team to make a run at the Heat in the East.
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#69 JML897
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That Nets trio could probably mesh better than the Knicks one.
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#70 ohjtbehaaave
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So if the Nets manage to actually get Howard, they'll pretty much have gone from being one of the worst teams to one of the better teams, in a matter of a couple of weeks? Does anyone else find that ridiculous?

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Why is it ridiculous? Nets gambled trading for D.Williams from the Jazz and it payed off. They traded for Joe Johnson. And if they can trade for D.Howard.... it's about the Nets management having acquired the pieces for deals and making enough salary cap space to pull it all off. It should be applauded being able to turn a team around with smart management, not knocked. The Heat just having 2 All Stars walk in the door at no cost for players or draft picks is what's ridiculous.
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#71 Jagged3dge
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[QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

So if the Nets manage to actually get Howard, they'll pretty much have gone from being one of the worst teams to one of the better teams, in a matter of a couple of weeks? Does anyone else find that ridiculous?

ohjtbehaaave
Why is it ridiculous? Nets gambled trading for D.Williams from the Jazz and it payed off. They traded for Joe Johnson. And if they can trade for D.Howard.... it's about the Nets management having acquired the pieces for deals and making enough salary cap space to pull it all off. It should be applauded being able to turn a team around with smart management, not knocked. The Heat just having 2 All Stars walk in the door at no cost for players or draft picks is what's ridiculous.

How? They were free agents all looking for the best opportunity to win, coming from teams where they had to carry to no avail. It was a once in a lifetime oppertunity to take advantage of that huge free agency offseason. Clearly it payed off since they're NBA champs.
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#72 Jagged3dge
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]Might just keep an eye on Chris B's twitter to see if the Bulls match the Rockets offer to Asik. No_Hablo_Ingles
don't care unless you make a bet in the thread... Not interesting otherwise

He won't.
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#73 DaJuicyMan
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So Deron Williams gets 98mil for 5 seasons from Brooklyn

Eric Gordon and Phoenix agreed to a 4 year 56(?)mil offer sheet

Roy Hibbert still has that max offer from Portland hanging around

Steve Nash will re-sign with Phoenix or sign in Toronto, don't think ANY other teams will appeal to him much unless he gets a BIG offer

Jason Terry signs with Boston

Ray Allen & Jeremy Lin are being courted by other teams for some nice money

Gerald Wallce re-signed with the Nets

Andre Miller re-signed with Denver , so did Kia Griffin with LA

Asik will probly be a Rocket

And JR Smith will not return to the Knicks

Is that everything bubbling for now? Or have I missed stuff?

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#75 Thefatness16
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Looks like Phoenix has a solid chance at Beasly.

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#76 -Halftime-
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If the knicks get Nash they'll have three of the worst defensive players in the league in their starting 5:lol:
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#77 deuce4eva
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I swear if we trade Shump for Nash i'm gonna be pissed. We signed James "The Flight" White thats nice he been playing good in Italy. Nash/Lin/Kidd trio?

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#78 JML897
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Nash/Lin/Kidd trio?

deuce4eva

What good would having 3 expensive PGs do? At most the Knicks are getting two of those.

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#79 deuce4eva
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If the knicks get Nash they'll have three of the worst defensive players in the league in their starting 5:lol:-Halftime-
Carmelo is not one of the worst defenders when tries plus he is losing weight, getting back in shape. Good thing we have a defensive minded coach. Steve Nash will just be the offensive coordinator. Amare working with Hakeem. Things look sharp expect losing Shump.

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#80 deuce4eva
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[QUOTE="deuce4eva"]

Nash/Lin/Kidd trio?

JML897

What good would having 3 expensive PGs do? At most the Knicks are getting two of those.

I heard he would sign for minimum and he has great size at "6,4" he could play the 2. He is an adept rebounder and still a great defender. Nash and Kidd on the floor doesn't sound too bad.

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#81 No_Hablo_Ingles
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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]If the knicks get Nash they'll have three of the worst defensive players in the league in their starting 5:lol:deuce4eva

Carmelo is not one of the worst defenders when tries plus he is losing weight, getting back in shape. Good thing we have a defensive minded coach. Steve Nash will just be the offensive coordinator. Amare working with Hakeem. Things look sharp expect losing Shump.

No one goes to the Dream to learn post defense, like they should, the go to learn post offense.
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#82 deuce4eva
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[QUOTE="deuce4eva"]

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]If the knicks get Nash they'll have three of the worst defensive players in the league in their starting 5:lol:No_Hablo_Ingles

Carmelo is not one of the worst defenders when tries plus he is losing weight, getting back in shape. Good thing we have a defensive minded coach. Steve Nash will just be the offensive coordinator. Amare working with Hakeem. Things look sharp expect losing Shump.

No one goes to the Dream to learn post defense, like they should, the go to learn post offense.

Yeah but Amare offense sucked last year too only like 18 points. With that training and Nash we will have his maxium potential.

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#83 JML897
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Let's say the Knicks get Nash...what good does that really do? The Heat will still steamroll them. Now I guess that happens in the 2nd round and not the 1st?

I'd rather keep guys like Shumpert and build for the future than get Nash who only has 2 good years at most left. If you trade anything for Nash you should be sure that you'll be a title contender in the next 2 years. The Knicks aren't.

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#84 deuce4eva
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Let's say the Knicks get Nash...what good does that really do? The Heat will still steamroll them. Now I guess that happens in the 2nd round and not the 1st?

I'd rather keep guys like Shumpert and build for the future than get Nash who only has 2 good years at most left. If you trade anything for Nash you should be sure that you'll be a title contender in the next 2 years. The Knicks aren't.

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Steve Nash is still arguably the best PG in the lg when you look at what he did with Suns with nobody around him. You can't say we're not title contenders by not looking what we will have on paper. Steve Nash and Amare is a lethal combination. Not only that you have Carmelo Anthony,Tyson Chandler, Novak, Smith, etc. Celtics,Knicks,Heat, maybe Brooklyn should be the frontrunners of the East.

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#85 Thefatness16
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Rockets offer Lin a 4 year 30 million$ contract. Last two years are back loaded at 10 million each.

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#86 JML897
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deuce4eva doing that delusional posting again

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[QUOTE="JML897"]

Let's say the Knicks get Nash...what good does that really do? The Heat will still steamroll them. Now I guess that happens in the 2nd round and not the 1st?

I'd rather keep guys like Shumpert and build for the future than get Nash who only has 2 good years at most left. If you trade anything for Nash you should be sure that you'll be a title contender in the next 2 years. The Knicks aren't.

deuce4eva

Steve Nash is still arguably the best PG in the lg when you look at what he did with Suns with nobody around him. You can't say we're not title contenders by not looking what we will have on paper. Steve Nash and Amare is a lethal combination. Not only that you have Carmelo Anthony,Tyson Chandler, Novak, Smith, etc. Celtics,Knicks,Heat, maybe Brooklyn should be the frontrunners of the East.

Funny how you're no longer a troll now, you're just hopelessly optimistic about your team.
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#88 JML897
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Apparently Nash is going to the Lakers now in a sign and trade?

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Get rid of one old PG, get another.

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Yep Nash to LA a done deal.
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#91 SilentSoprano
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[QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

So if the Nets manage to actually get Howard, they'll pretty much have gone from being one of the worst teams to one of the better teams, in a matter of a couple of weeks? Does anyone else find that ridiculous?

ohjtbehaaave

Why is it ridiculous? Nets gambled trading for D.Williams from the Jazz and it payed off. They traded for Joe Johnson. And if they can trade for D.Howard.... it's about the Nets management having acquired the pieces for deals and making enough salary cap space to pull it all off. It should be applauded being able to turn a team around with smart management, not knocked. The Heat just having 2 All Stars walk in the door at no cost for players or draft picks is what's ridiculous.

I'm talking more about the fact that a couple years ago they had the worst record in the league, and were the laughing stock of the NBA. Now they will potentially have Williams, Wallace, Johnson, and Howard, making them one of the better teams in the East. It just seems weird when I think of it like that. It's not everyday you see a team turn around that fast. At least the Heat were already a good team with just Wade; they didn't completely turn around in a matter of 1-2 seasons like the Nets. It is good management like you said...it just seems crazy.

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[QUOTE="JML897"]

Let's say the Knicks get Nash...what good does that really do? The Heat will still steamroll them. Now I guess that happens in the 2nd round and not the 1st?

I'd rather keep guys like Shumpert and build for the future than get Nash who only has 2 good years at most left. If you trade anything for Nash you should be sure that you'll be a title contender in the next 2 years. The Knicks aren't.

deuce4eva

Steve Nash is still arguably the best PG in the lg when you look at what he did with Suns with nobody around him. You can't say we're not title contenders by not looking what we will have on paper. Steve Nash and Amare is a lethal combination. Not only that you have Carmelo Anthony,Tyson Chandler, Novak, Smith, etc. Celtics,Knicks,Heat, maybe Brooklyn should be the frontrunners of the East.

knicks aren't getting nash and are going to lose lin lololololol
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#93 Chutebox
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Um, they reporting Nash is coming to the Lakers

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#94 SilentSoprano
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[QUOTE="JML897"]

Let's say the Knicks get Nash...what good does that really do? The Heat will still steamroll them. Now I guess that happens in the 2nd round and not the 1st?

I'd rather keep guys like Shumpert and build for the future than get Nash who only has 2 good years at most left. If you trade anything for Nash you should be sure that you'll be a title contender in the next 2 years. The Knicks aren't.

deuce4eva

Steve Nash is still arguably the best PG in the lg when you look at what he did with Suns with nobody around him. You can't say we're not title contenders by not looking what we will have on paper. Steve Nash and Amare is a lethal combination. Not only that you have Carmelo Anthony,Tyson Chandler, Novak, Smith, etc. Celtics,Knicks,Heat, maybe Brooklyn should be the frontrunners of the East.

You guys looked excellent on paper last season, but what happened? The Knicks have all this talent, but can't seem to work as a cohesive team for some reason.

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#95 SilentSoprano
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So Deron Williams gets 98mil for 5 seasons from Brooklyn

Eric Gordon and Phoenix agreed to a 4 year 56(?)mil offer sheet

Roy Hibbert still has that max offer from Portland hanging around

Steve Nash will re-sign with Phoenix or sign in Toronto, don't think ANY other teams will appeal to him much unless he gets a BIG offer

Jason Terry signs with Boston

Ray Allen & Jeremy Lin are being courted by other teams for some nice money

Gerald Wallce re-signed with the Nets

Andre Miller re-signed with Denver , so did Kia Griffin with LA

Asik will probly be a Rocket

And JR Smith will not return to the Knicks

Is that everything bubbling for now? Or have I missed stuff?

DaJuicyMan

Dwight Howard possibly going to the Nets.

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#96 Bobbles
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Um, they reporting Nash is coming to the Lakers

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:lol: I CAN'T WAIT for -halftime-'s response to this news, hahahaha.
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#97 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Um, they reporting Nash is coming to the Lakers

Bobbles
:lol: I CAN'T WAIT for -halftime-'s response to this news, hahahaha.

Glad we got a PT. But he's kinda old, not sure how this will turn out.
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#98 JohnBean42
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I don't really watch basketball, but all the media has talked about, other than hockey, is about Nash. And I've followed along and after listening to all these people want him, I don't get why, other than being Canadian.

I'm glad he's going to a place like LA and have a chance to win. If he comes here, he has no shot. He wouldn't have helped anything but ticket sales.

Well, I've read that with this trade, they have a good shot to win.

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#99 deuce4eva
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I'm about ready to give up on the NBA. Rockets getting Lin will be the last straw.

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#100 -Halftime-
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I hate steve Nash so much, god damnit. Looking forward to repeated blowbys by everyone he's guarding and minimal effort on the defensive end. whooptee doo.