Lawmakers raise alarms over Trump coronavirus response

Dow Jones suffers the worst hit since twelve years ago.

i don't understand where you're going with your arguments.

we know (roughly) based on the admittedly small sample sized vs. the flu that this appears at least currently to be more deadly.

just like the flu, fatalities so far seem to be focused on the elderly or those with already compromised health.


what is the point you are trying to make? that the flu is more deadly in terms of raw deaths? that's already well established given the millions that typically contract the flu each year. if you're trying to argue that you somehow KNOW covid-19 is less deadly from a % rate although you yourself already admitted we don't know enough about it yet, that makes little sense either.

seems like you're trying to argue just to argue.

Lol @ the idiots, who keep bringing up the flu. When was the last time whole cities in multiple countries were closed down because of the fucking common flu? Without those measures we would already have millions of cases with hundreds of thousands dead.

What bias? Anything statistics and probability and you deal only in absolute numbers.

If 26 million Americans got covid-19 it's likely by numbers we have today that over half a million of them would be dead. Given that it spreads easier than the regular flu, maybe 40 million Americans would get it. Meaning you get close to 1 million deaths by it.

How does that number compare to your 14 000 by regular flu?

Thanks.

I'm just saying it's overblown like the last 10 viruses that were supposed to end the world. Get yourself together man.

First thing you learn about statistics is you can make them say whatever you want. Probability is unknown because it's still too new.

At this point just shut up, stop trolling.

I'm not trolling. I honestly believe that this is too new for everybody to read a few news articles and be experts. We don't know much about this virus, the professionals don't. I'm not saying we shouldn't care and just let it run rampant. I just think it's being blown out of proportion like the other viruses we've had over the last decade. Everytime they act like it's the black plague and it ends up being less severe than common colds.

If you disagree that's fine. You don't see me calling users jackasses and trolls about it.

Confirmed cases are already ten times that of SARS, and death toll around 3.5 times it. And that's at the final estimates of SARS. https://www.who.int/csr/sars/country/2003_07_11/en/

Again this isn't disease olympics, but it's clearly not overblown and at it's contagion rate it still has the potential to be a major pandemic. Trying to deny that we should consider this seriously through fallacy of relative privation is embarrassingly dense.

Tim Pool has been talking about this virus non stop, interesting stuff

Tim posted another one today..

Looks like california is freaking out, Cali looks to be where its going to start here.

Iran, Italy, South Korea are all having serious outbreaks. Its getting out of hand and spreading fast.

I dont blame Trump, but maybe we should halt all immigration and build a bio dome around the country.

California will not be allowed in the bio dome. Its for the best.

Nobody is saying to ignore it. I've just seen this all before.

@n64dd: I will reconsider taking you serious in discussions like these when you provide some reasoning behind calling the probability rate and statistics something you can get to say whatever you want.

Really, because it sure sounds like you're trying to downplay it as not worth attention.

Stats and facts are saying otherwise, but keep up the denial with no information and clear fallacy.

@Vaasman: don't you think its kinda gross that people are weaponizing a virus that started in China, as a political weapon against the president of the US?

I want us to stop the virus from spreading, but the premise of this thread is going to set it up for failure.... lol good luck having a conversation about the severity of the virus with the conversation revolving around blaming the president for it.

The president put a guy who doesn't believe in evolution in charge of a virus, after issuing a budget removing large portions of the CDC. And he's ensuring researchers must have statements politically approved before making them.

If it's a political weapon, then it's a gun in his own hands and you're mad we called him out for shooting his own foot.

like i said, thread set up for failure when it comes to having reasonable conversation, thanks for proving my point

have fun blaming trump for the virus, i'm sure other TDS comrades will join in with you.

This does not inspire confidence,

Trump picks Pence to lead coronavirus response, critics point out his handling of HIV outbreak

Pray the virus away?

@zaryia: when it hits the fan he will place all blame on mike pence.

If it goes well, trump will take all credit.

@jeezers: conservatives see blaming Democrats for making the virus in order to crash the economy and hurt trump.

Does that upset you too?

Do you deny that the president's budget removed the portion of the CDC for management of pandemics? Do you deny that Mike Pence his appointed virus manager disregards science and evolution? Do you deny that his appointed head of the CDC doesn't know how to find an online virus map, or that the acting DHS head couldn't give basic facts to Republican questions in a hearing?

I don't blame Trump for Covid 19. It's not like he engineered and unleashed it into Chyna as a grand conspiracy. But pretending he as head of the executive isn't accountable for deliberate government incompetence that could lead to exacerbating the problem, is pure denial. Add to it we're on a political board so of course we're talking about the political repercussions.

Only TDS is coming from the doofs like yourself, all too happy to downplay and ignore the threat of viral outbreak instead of accepting there's a problem and your godking might not be doing his best to fix it. If you can't argue why the leader of the country can't , shouldn't, and/or isn't doing more to keep us safe, then you're best not arguing at all. Keep your head in the sand and hope like the rest of us that it just blows over.

I think its funny that you guys are focusing on what the virus means in regards to Trump, but don't seem to talk about the virus itself.

A pandemic breaks out in China and is spreading across the globe and you guys are worried about how this affects Trump politically....

Look at these numbers

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/coronavirus-maps.html

This isn't a "Trump" story, you guys sound ridiculous. But that seems to be the focus. I get you guys dont like Trump but holy balls can you stop trying to link absolutely every bad thing you see to trump.. Remember the "thanks Obama" memes.

They were funny because it was silly how some people blamed Obama for EVERYTHING.

That's how you guys look now, you are the new whiny babies

and your even worse than the republicans back then

and i found them to be annoying asf.

You guys are treating this worldwide virus as a political game...

Well if its a game then Macron has 2 more deaths from the virus than Trump, he must be a horrible person too, this virus is Macrons fault!!!

I also can stoop to this level of absurdity lol

Lets all flop around in the pig pen of insane partisan politics.

Care to explain why the OP is wrong?

@drunk_pi: Care to explain why their right? It's the usual suspects somehow blaming a virus that came out of China on Trump.

It's infected a whopping 60 people in the states with 0 deaths. So please continue the meltdown. Typical leftwing hysteria.

"(Lamar) Alexander called the funding request “a good start,” adding, “if they need more, we’ll appropriate it.”"

"Separately, problems with a test developed by the CDC has delayed the ability of state and local health departments to test patients for the coronavirus."

Oh look OP's same article, guess he forgot to add it to his thread start again. lol.

you're welcome to leave.

Heck, weren't you already banned once before, why even comeback if you don't like it

I can't copy and paste entire articles, that is just spam. It also doesn't change the fact of Trump's prior cuts or spouting nonsense.

@zaryia: What prior cuts?

I saw there was some confusion about Trump's alledged proposed cuts in the news as of late. See the below article:

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/485025-ap-fact-checkers-find-biden-bloomberg-paint-distorted-picture-on-trump-cdc

The Trump administration fired the U.S. pandemic response team in 2018 to cut costs.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

@zaryia: it's fine, it's not like we're encouraging typhoid Mary's by prohibiting diagnosis and treatment via artificially high healthcare costs.

@drlostrib: I was never banned, but when you can't form a logical argument like all the lefties in this thread they just call me an alt and bring up past arguments that never happened.

@zaryia: So your whole cuts notion stems from the firing/relocating of a few person white house team? ...

so what did you get banned for?

Would you care to expand on this thought process? What exactly would you call personnel removal and budget reduction, if not a cut?

Yes. I personally do not think he should have done that. Some experts agree with me as well.

But to be clear I'm not blaming this entire situation on Trump. He clearly did not make Coronavirus or bring it to USA.

@drlostrib: Apparently reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Math is math. Stop arguing against it.

Yeah so everyone else can do it but you just happen to leave out any rebuttable from the aritcles every time because "Spam" lol. Also you mean the cut to stop the CDC from going overseas.

"America stop being world police, stop melding over seas."

"America help!" lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/02/01/cdc-to-cut-by-80-percent-efforts-to-prevent-global-disease-outbreak/ (The original source, your snopes sauces. Don't know why you never use the original sources.).

@LJS9502_basic: Words are words.

You literally just spoke gibberish, are you drunk?

dude.. this is a POLITICAL board. of course anything posted on a POLITICAL board is going to be spun with POLITICS.

if you want to have an apolitical discussion about the outbreak, start a topic over in off-topic.

OHMG! people are making political topics on a politics board! why do dey haff to do that?!?

jeez.

oh right...

uh, hypothetically speaking, what did you get banned for?

@zaryia: Just reeks of political pandering. If members of Congress think not enough is being done by the CDC, then they need to allocate more resources because they're the ones who have the power of the purse.

@comp_atkins: lol I'm just laughing at the leftwing circle jerk here on gamespot. That some how 60 people infected in the US( 42 of which were on a cruise ship..) somehow is linked to Trump doing a shitty job. So please tell me I'm waiting.

This whole thing will only raise Sanders' chances of winning 2020, seeing as how the current system is more interested in making a profit off of testing potential carriers/sick rather than in stopping it from spreading.

What is a joke is the congress. The Trump administration has been on top of the virus since it appeared. procedures and crisis response to this kind of pandemic automatically kick in to address the problem. Trump for the first time in fifty years quarantined people coming into the country. He set up a task force over a month ago to handle the problem. Trump went to the CDC and ask what they needed to work on this problem. They said they needed more money and Trump got it for them. What is the Democrat answer, open borders, let anyone into the country, poop covered streets in major cities in California, destroy the best health system in the world, praise China and condemn the President. Chuck wants eight billion dollars but doesn't say what for. That is the Democrat answer for everything throw money at a problem with out ever solving the problem. The Democrats use every occurrence to scare people to achieve a political objective. Just like climate change. The death rate so far from the corona virus is two present of people who get the disease. In the United States there are three hundred and thirty million people Less than eighty people has contracted the disease and there have been no fatalities. Listening to the Democrats and the main stream media the sky is falling. They don't care about the people only getting their power back. That is who they are.

Holly shit Jim! 🤣

Jim is either payed to post this nonsense or is living in a fantasy land.

He just ripped the world asunder brah.

who is making the case that it is?