Why today's kids look down upon religion ?

Technology, I think, isolates us. It keeps us content with being behind our computer monitors and engaging in pseudorelationships. When we remove ourselves from actual human interactions, we remove our desire to believe in God.Genetic_Code

Probably because 95% of the arguments one can find that are in favour of religion are also total ****.

Like the post that the O.P. made.

Barbariser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EphcacBt-Mk

[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]There being no presented evidence is more than enough reason to doubt the existence of something, let alone basing your life upon it, or going as far as many religious people go and try to force their beliefs on others, even when they themselves have no evidence.Vandalvideo

but the burden of proof is fairly and squarely with the person making extraordinary claims. Vinegar_Strokes

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I thought education was worse. Arent kids getting dumber? Like their scores keep falling. I think kids these days believe that math and science are also gods and thus they dont believe in them or understand them.

Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]but the burden of proof is fairly and squarely with the person making extraordinary claims. Vandalvideo

]but the scientist would welcome the questioning. that is what science is about. test and retest. question and requestion. be critical in your thinking and not just believe anything for no good reason Vinegar_Strokes

I was raised in the church and while I question my belief of god, I still do believe religion teaches good morals and behaviors for the most part. Nothing wrong with that.

[QUOTE="m25105"]Religion doesn't cause wars. Please point to me where it does.Conno08

Hi there!

[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]There being no presented evidence is more than enough reason to doubt the existence of something, let alone basing your life upon it, or going as far as many religious people go and try to force their beliefs on others, even when they themselves have no evidence.Vandalvideo

Because the kids of today are smarter -.-...Roushrsh

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[QUOTE="m25105"]Religion doesn't cause wars. Please point to me where it does.m25105

Hi there!

The Crusades were a series of religiously sanctioned military campaigns, called by the popewikipedia

[QUOTE="Roushrsh"]Because the kids of today are smarter -.-...sonicare

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Roushrsh"]Because the kids of today are smarter -.-...jaydough

[QUOTE="Conno08"]

[QUOTE="m25105"]Religion doesn't cause wars. Please point to me where it does.m25105

Hi there!

The Crusades were a religious campaign, all 9 of them. There was aspects that contributed to the crusades but as for the crusades they were purely religion motivated.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"] They're dumber according to standardized testing.sonicare

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[QUOTE="m25105"]Religion doesn't cause wars. Please point to me where it does.m25105

Hi there!

"main goal of restoring Christian control of the Holy Land" - You sure?

[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="Conno08"]

Hi there!

The Crusades where a religious campaign, all 9 of them. There was aspects that contributed to the crusades but as for the crusades they where purely religion motivated.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="jaydough"] Standardized testing only measures a very narrow range of skills.

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[QUOTE="m25105"] Read about it before you poste it. Religion was not the cause of it, it was a contributing factor to it.sonicare

The Crusades where a religious campaign, all 9 of them. There was aspects that contributed to the crusades but as for the crusades they where purely religion motivated.

Like i said, there were many other things that contributed to the crusades but as for the crusaders themselves, they marched because they belevied it was Gods will, The Crusades, Especially the first was incredibly brutal not only for those who suffered at the hands of the Crusaders but for the crusaders themselves, most of whom only kept marching through their devotion and faith.

I'm a teen... And I'm religous.

The too arn't at all mutually exclusive :?

Religion and morals don't have to go hand in hand.

I notice most of todays kids ( Teenagers )avoid being religious and are atheist. They beleive in studying / working hard , enjoying party , live life kingsize than being religious. They'd rather follow a Rock / Metal group than follow a religion.

Religion is foundation of ones culture and ethics . Religion saves a person from doing wrong things as Sex , doing Drugs ETC kind of sins. Being Religious brings peace of mind .

Something is really wrong with today's kids . I blame Advancement of Technology and Fast Life ( Always running after Money & Pleasure ) .

indzman

I think too that teenagers go through a strange phase - on the one hand they claim to be rebellious and "independent" yet on they other hand they tend to follow their own peers. I think they seem to be lead more by emotion than by reason.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

The Crusades where a religious campaign, all 9 of them. There was aspects that contributed to the crusades but as for the crusades they where purely religion motivated.

mattisgod01

Like i said, there were many other things that contributed to the crusades but as for the crusaders themselves, they marched because they belevied it was Gods will, The Crusades, Especially the first was incredibly brutal not only for those who suffered at the hands of the Crusaders but for the crusaders themselves, most of whom only kept marching through their devotion and faith.

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="m25105"] Read about it before you poste it. Religion was not the cause of it, it was a contributing factor to it.sonicare

The Crusades where a religious campaign, all 9 of them. There was aspects that contributed to the crusades but as for the crusades they where purely religion motivated.

Also at the time the Crusades were launched, the Arabs were already occupying Spain (they tried to attack France, but Charles Martel stopped them). I think a big factor in the First Crusade was that the Ottomans where gobbling up the dying Byzantine Empire and the Byzantine Emperor asked the Pope for help, lest the Ottomans seize Constantinople.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"] I dont know if that is true. The middle east was a center for trade and commerce back during the times of the crusades. Several major trade routes went through that region. Several scholars make the argument that there were geopolitical reasons for the crusades that had nothing to do with religion. In addition to being a "religous" organization, the catholic church of the crusade era was also a powerful political and economic entity. It may have been trying to preseve/expand itself under the guise of a "crusade".whipassmt

Like i said, there were many other things that contributed to the crusades but as for the crusaders themselves, they marched because they belevied it was Gods will, The Crusades, Especially the first was incredibly brutal not only for those who suffered at the hands of the Crusaders but for the crusaders themselves, most of whom only kept marching through their devotion and faith.

By what measurment? They where just as brutal if not more so in every way besides total death toll.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

The Crusades where a religious campaign, all 9 of them. There was aspects that contributed to the crusades but as for the crusades they where purely religion motivated.

whipassmt

Also at the time the Crusades were launched, the Arabs were already occupying Spain (they tried to attack France, but Charles Martel stopped them). I think a big factor in the First Crusade was that the Ottomans where gobbling up the dying Byzantine Empire and the Byzantine Emperor asked the Pope for help, lest the Ottomans seize Constantinople.

The first Crusader began when Alexius, The Byzantine Emperor asked Pope Urban II for assistance in repelling the Turks. The Pope then spread rumours of Christians being brutally treated at the hands of the Muslims. He then used the situation to send an army of fanatical crusaders to retake Jerusalem. Alot of the backroom deals and truth of the whole event was far more sinister and selfish but the average crusader or pretty much every crusader was motivated by religious fanaticism.

Mostly ignorance. I grew up knowing nothing about religion for the most part, and grew to be very caustic towards both religion and those who are religious. Then I started learning about religion through high school and went on to become a religion major in university, and have developed not only an extensive knowledge of religions from all over the world, but a great respect for those who practice it (rather than just preach it). Most people even who claim to be religious don't necessarily know that much about their religion of choice, and I think that is a major problem in the modern world. People are groomed to believe a certain set of principles from an early age, and are not encouraged to seek the answers for themselves (which religious institutions did for the longest time).foxhound_fox

Not in the way people who rage at this post will think but something I've seen in life is kids being misled or strait up lied to about drugs, then comes the inevitable situation where they have to decide and often at least give passing try. Suddenly they relize that everything they've heard has been crap and their inhibitions and rationalities go to **** and they go farther than they should. They think that because much of what they've been taught has been lies that nothing they've been told on the subject could be correct and go farther with them than they should.

This I have seen myself, and I know that it's human nature to assume, not to think critically.

This goes just as well with religion, kids are taught alot of lies and half truths about religion, often by people who have mediocre knowledge on the subject at best. When they get older and learn something like Jesus was not considered a god until the third century after it was decided by a voteand they go farther then that and start to assume alot of what they were taught was incorrect.

It's absolutely true that Christianity has an ubsurd amount of lies tact onto it, and more flaws than can be accounted for, and all it takes is one thing to be brought into light for somebody to question their faith, especially among a generation that was not very faithful to begin with.

I think u miss my point, I merely imply that believing something based on nothing is wrong, period. Holding an "agnostic" stance on something is one thing, but assuming and going on to base large parts of your life on said assumption is logically flawed, and kind of sad.CaveJohnson1

I notice most of todays kids ( Teenagers )avoid being religious and are atheist. They beleive in studying / working hard , enjoying party , live life kingsize than being religious. They'd rather follow a Rock / Metal group than follow a religion.

Religion is foundation of ones culture and ethics . Religion saves a person from doing wrong things as Sex , doing Drugs ETC kind of sins. Being Religious brings peace of mind .

Something is really wrong with today's kids . I blame Advancement of Technology and Fast Life ( Always running after Money & Pleasure ) .

indzman

Because religion is useless.

Mostly ignorance. I grew up knowing nothing about religion for the most part, and grew to be very caustic towards both religion and those who are religious. Then I started learning about religion through high school and went on to become a religion major in university, and have developed not only an extensive knowledge of religions from all over the world, but a great respect for those who practice it (rather than just preach it). Most people even who claim to be religious don't necessarily know that much about their religion of choice, and I think that is a major problem in the modern world. People are groomed to believe a certain set of principles from an early age, and are not encouraged to seek the answers for themselves (which religious institutions did for the longest time).foxhound_fox

This is really it. You are either groomed into it, or groomed to stay away from it. For the most part its really just the way you grew up. Very few feel the need to reach out beyond what they are comfortable with. Kudos for Foxhound for looking deeper.

Because we are taught rational thought from a very early age.

is there a statistic on how religious young people are? There's high school religious groups and college groups like Campus Crusade for Christ. but anecdotes from either side don't tell the whole story, so are there hard numbers on this?

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]because kids are dumb and think they know everythingPirate700

I'm not dumb :(

is there a statistic on how religious young people are? There's high school religious groups and college groups like Campus Crusade for Christ. but anecdotes from either side don't tell the whole story, so are there hard numbers on this?

Mordred19

probably the best source out there.

Because we are taught rational thought from a very early age.

inyourface_12

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

Because we are taught rational thought from a very early age.

Richymisiak

Because we are taught rational thought from a very early age.

[QUOTE="Richymisiak"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

Because we are taught rational thought from a very early age.

sonicare

I dont think we should so easily conclude from what you say (I know nothing more so we may both be missing some valuable info) that kids today are not as well educated compared to past generations.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Mostly ignorance. I grew up knowing nothing about religion for the most part, and grew to be very caustic towards both religion and those who are religious. Then I started learning about religion through high school and went on to become a religion major in university, and have developed not only an extensive knowledge of religions from all over the world, but a great respect for those who practice it (rather than just preach it). Most people even who claim to be religious don't necessarily know that much about their religion of choice, and I think that is a major problem in the modern world. People are groomed to believe a certain set of principles from an early age, and are not encouraged to seek the answers for themselves (which religious institutions did for the longest time).CaveJohnson1

Not in the way people who rage at this post will think but something I've seen in life is kids being misled or strait up lied to about drugs, then comes the inevitable situation where they have to decide and often at least give passing try. Suddenly they relize that everything they've heard has been crap and their inhibitions and rationalities go to **** and they go farther than they should. They think that because much of what they've been taught has been lies that nothing they've been told on the subject could be correct and go farther with them than they should.

This I have seen myself, and I know that it's human nature to assume, not to think critically.

This goes just as well with religion, kids are taught alot of lies and half truths about religion, often by people who have mediocre knowledge on the subject at best. When they get older and learn something like Jesus was not considered a god until the third century after it was decided by a voteand they go farther then that and start to assume alot of what they were taught was incorrect.

It's absolutely true that Christianity has an ubsurd amount of lies tact onto it, and more flaws than can be accounted for, and all it takes is one thing to be brought into light for somebody to question their faith, especially among a generation that was not very faithful to begin with.

I've heard that before - about the vote thing. My apologies, but I am a little confused how that could cause someone to leave their faith because of that. I would hope they sit down and think for themselves though. I'm sure it's just me though. I just don't understand how, because of a vote, I am closer to leaving Christianity. Perhaps I misunderstood you.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Richymisiak"] I'd say this.Teenaged

I dont think we should so easily conclude from what you say (I know nothing more so we may both be missing some valuable info) that kids today are not as well educated compared to past generations.

It's interesting, you would think, well at least I would think, with the invention of the Internet, kids will be getting more intelligent. Perhaps they are more likely to play games and get on facebook, then actually learn something.

[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Mostly ignorance. I grew up knowing nothing about religion for the most part, and grew to be very caustic towards both religion and those who are religious. Then I started learning about religion through high school and went on to become a religion major in university, and have developed not only an extensive knowledge of religions from all over the world, but a great respect for those who practice it (rather than just preach it). Most people even who claim to be religious don't necessarily know that much about their religion of choice, and I think that is a major problem in the modern world. People are groomed to believe a certain set of principles from an early age, and are not encouraged to seek the answers for themselves (which religious institutions did for the longest time).kev_stevens67

Not in the way people who rage at this post will think but something I've seen in life is kids being misled or strait up lied to about drugs, then comes the inevitable situation where they have to decide and often at least give passing try. Suddenly they relize that everything they've heard has been crap and their inhibitions and rationalities go to **** and they go farther than they should. They think that because much of what they've been taught has been lies that nothing they've been told on the subject could be correct and go farther with them than they should.

This I have seen myself, and I know that it's human nature to assume, not to think critically.

This goes just as well with religion, kids are taught alot of lies and half truths about religion, often by people who have mediocre knowledge on the subject at best. When they get older and learn something like Jesus was not considered a god until the third century after it was decided by a voteand they go farther then that and start to assume alot of what they were taught was incorrect.

It's absolutely true that Christianity has an ubsurd amount of lies tact onto it, and more flaws than can be accounted for, and all it takes is one thing to be brought into light for somebody to question their faith, especially among a generation that was not very faithful to begin with.

I've heard that before - about the vote thing. My apologies, but I am a little confused how that could cause someone to leave their faith because of that. I would hope they sit down and think for themselves though. I'm sure it's just me though. I just don't understand how, because of a vote, I am closer to leaving Christianity. Perhaps I misunderstood you

Here in the Bible Belt, a lot of familes raise their children to be religious. My entire family is religious, teens included. They are very religious in fact; If they don't have god then they have nothing.

[QUOTE="kev_stevens67"]

[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]I just had a thought, maybe religion is kinda like soft drugs in a sense.

Not in the way people who rage at this post will think but something I've seen in life is kids being misled or strait up lied to about drugs, then comes the inevitable situation where they have to decide and often at least give passing try. Suddenly they relize that everything they've heard has been crap and their inhibitions and rationalities go to **** and they go farther than they should. They think that because much of what they've been taught has been lies that nothing they've been told on the subject could be correct and go farther with them than they should.

This I have seen myself, and I know that it's human nature to assume, not to think critically.

This goes just as well with religion, kids are taught alot of lies and half truths about religion, often by people who have mediocre knowledge on the subject at best. When they get older and learn something like Jesus was not considered a god until the third century after it was decided by a voteand they go farther then that and start to assume alot of what they were taught was incorrect.

It's absolutely true that Christianity has an ubsurd amount of lies tact onto it, and more flaws than can be accounted for, and all it takes is one thing to be brought into light for somebody to question their faith, especially among a generation that was not very faithful to begin with.

CaveJohnson1

I've heard that before - about the vote thing. My apologies, but I am a little confused how that could cause someone to leave their faith because of that. I would hope they sit down and think for themselves though. I'm sure it's just me though. I just don't understand how, because of a vote, I am closer to leaving Christianity. Perhaps I misunderstood you

I can agree that hopefully it will cause them to study more, both religion and other areas to get a better understanding of everything. I'm all for educating yourself, whether your religious or not. Education is a great thing IMO.