Why are atheists so hostile? Dare I click Submit?

As an atheist, i avoid all talk concerning religion and i will NEVER attack someone for their beliefs. Someone can believe that the cookie monster is god and i wouldnt attack them for it so long they have the same respect for my beliefs.

we are not hostile, we are defensive.

atheists in my experience mind their own business; give that the majority is religious, we pretty much have to in order to remain sane and productive.

but when we are attacked, well, we defend ourselves, and considering we use logic, facts, and solid arguments in our defense, our retaliation comes off as hostile because the truth hurts :P

we are not hostile, we are defensive.

atheists in my experience mind their own business; give that the majority is religious, we pretty much have to in order to remain sane and productive.

but when we are attacked, well, we defend ourselves, and considering we use logic, facts, and solid arguments in our defense, our retaliation comes off as hostile because the truth hurts :P

mrbojangles25

[QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="eyebrows250"]. What happened to being respectful of others? Seriously, why do atheists always feel the need to destroy other's beliefs?

Discuss.

carrot-cake

Morbo will destroy you, puny human! And your religion! LONG LIVE ATHEISM!

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="WockaFlocka"] But the Bible says that Atheists are going to hell, and to tell every one the word. I'm a religious person with morals, and I believe that you should educate, NOT preach to people. They will be more likely to believe if you don't yell " ur going to hell!".J-man45

Who would you trust?

we are not hostile, we are defensive.

atheists in my experience mind their own business; give that the majority is religious, we pretty much have to in order to remain sane and productive.

but when we are attacked, well, we defend ourselves, and considering we use logic, facts, and solid arguments in our defense, our retaliation comes off as hostile because the truth hurts :P

mrbojangles25

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

we are not hostile, we are defensive.

atheists in my experience mind their own business; give that the majority is religious, we pretty much have to in order to remain sane and productive.

but when we are attacked, well, we defend ourselves, and considering we use logic, facts, and solid arguments in our defense, our retaliation comes off as hostile because the truth hurts :P

hippiesanta

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

we are not hostile, we are defensive.

atheists in my experience mind their own business; give that the majority is religious, we pretty much have to in order to remain sane and productive.

but when we are attacked, well, we defend ourselves, and considering we use logic, facts, and solid arguments in our defense, our retaliation comes off as hostile because the truth hurts :P

hippiesanta

true, but lets look at history: have any major wars been waged for atheism? Have atheists persecuted religious people for generations upon generations with consequence?

Not saying its ok to make fun of religious people, but if youre going to complain about little ol' Bill Mahr or George Carlin poking fun at the religious, well, let he who is without sin cast the first stone lol. Relative to religious people in history, atheists are freaking saints, man :P

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

we are not hostile, we are defensive.

atheists in my experience mind their own business; give that the majority is religious, we pretty much have to in order to remain sane and productive.

but when we are attacked, well, we defend ourselves, and considering we use logic, facts, and solid arguments in our defense, our retaliation comes off as hostile because the truth hurts :P

true, but lets look at history: have any major wars been waged for atheism? Have atheists persecuted religious people for generations upon generations with consequence?

Not saying its ok to make fun of religious people, but if youre going to complain about little ol' Bill Mahr or George Carlin poking fun at the religious, well, let he who is without sin cast the first stone lol. Relative to religious people in history, atheists are freaking saints, man :P

I really hate the word "Atheists". I don't believe in anything and so I get branded an Atheist. I don't care about any of that, don't put a label on my forhead !I am myself and I don't wanna be part of some group.

Because they don't know how to get attention any other way. Inciting hostility or aggravating others is their only method of interaction.

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="WockaFlocka"] But the Bible says that Atheists are going to hell, and to tell every one the word. I'm a religious person with morals, and I believe that you should educate, NOT preach to people. They will be more likely to believe if you don't yell " ur going to hell!".J-man45

Who would you trust?

This girl here. She won't preach to me, either.

Are they trying to drag down everyone else with them? In every topic I see with the word "God" or "religion" in it, you immediately see all the non-believers quoting "there is no God" or "Science is proving everything false". What happened to being respectful of others? Seriously, why do atheists always feel the need to destroy other's beliefs?

Discuss.

eyebrows250

Teh rage. That is all.

[QUOTE="J-man45"]

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] Who said you were qualified to teach? Thats another thing. Believers have this "niceness" about them that is just as itimidating as forcefull athiest. I don't trust ppl who are so condescending.Bladecutter56

Who would you trust?

This girl here. She won't preach to me, either.

That super 90 sux.

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

we are not hostile, we are defensive.

atheists in my experience mind their own business; give that the majority is religious, we pretty much have to in order to remain sane and productive.

but when we are attacked, well, we defend ourselves, and considering we use logic, facts, and solid arguments in our defense, our retaliation comes off as hostile because the truth hurts :P

Danm_999

I really hate the word "Atheists". I don't believe in anything and so I get branded an Atheist. I don't care about any of that, don't put a label on my forhead !I am myself and I don't wanna be part of some group.

Sagem28

What happened to being respectful of others?eyebrows250

Internet.

I've never met an atheist face-to-face that had a hostile demeanour towards me.

Prove that atheists are particularly "hostile" in comparison to other belief groups.

Although, this thread's pretty interesting in one sense. A lot of the people here who attack atheists for being disrespectful then proceeded to demonize atheists as being selfish/attention-seeking/blahblahblah-random-malignant-buzzword. You know, if you don't like it when people generalize the groups you belong to then there's nothing obligating you to be a f****** hypocrite and return the favour, unless you actually believe that the standards you apply on the behaviour of others don't apply to yourself.

I don't even know why religious disscuions are allowed on OT they just lead to flaming on both sides, and its not like we are going to change anybodies opinion.

Humans are hostile creatures, doesn't matter what you believe. However, I must admit that Atheists are probably the most quick to label others as hostile. I guess some think they are exceptional and not in the norm of the deluded, when really they're being just as ignorant as those they aim to separate themselves from. Again, these will be the minority, which is always the case.

Moral of the story: Wherever there are humans, there will be hostility, no matter what they believe in.

Maybe because its basically like would you take an adult seriously if they believed in the easter bunny and that the easter bunny also created the world and the universe by collecting all the planets from its own garden and arranging them in the way they are.

People on hold on to religon and take it seriously purely because of how long it has been around and that despite the crazyness of it... I heard in the bible when moses was trying to free his people God made it rain frogs to make the king at the time allow him to take the slaves away.

http://homepage.mac.com/jerrypeterson/CHUMSsite/pages/Story%20Moses.html

thats the full story I think.

Its just bordering insaine yet instead of people taking this literally they twist it as a "moral story" and with the advances of science prooving things which majorly conflict with the bible and many other religons... another one was apperently the church diidnt like the idea of a Vacum because god is meant to be everywhere but in a vacum there is nothing.

So tldr; possibly like me many we see religous topics and we cant help but find ourselves trying to convince people that these crazy things just dont/cant happen. Its not a thing of hatred; its more "how can you even think this".

Humans are hostile creatures, doesn't matter what you believe. However, I must admit that Atheists are probably the most quick to label others as hostile. I guess some think they are exceptional and not in the norm of the deluded, when really they're being just as ignorant as those they aim to separate themselves from. Again, these will be the minority, which is always the case.

Moral of the story: Wherever there are humans, there will be hostility, no matter what they believe in.

Asim90

That's a pretty one-sided way of looking at things, isn't it? Humans being inherently hostile does not mesh well with humans being inherently social. There must be facets to this? Like certain cultural norms?

It seems you just tend to skip over all the intelligent posts where non-theists (atheists, agnostics, non-religious, etc.) are actually discussing things instead of making broad claims with no reasonable arguments I guess?

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

Humans are hostile creatures, doesn't matter what you believe. However, I must admit that Atheists are probably the most quick to label others as hostile. I guess some think they are exceptional and not in the norm of the deluded, when really they're being just as ignorant as those they aim to separate themselves from. Again, these will be the minority, which is always the case.

Moral of the story: Wherever there are humans, there will be hostility, no matter what they believe in.

BiancaDK

That's a pretty one-sided way of looking at things, isn't it? Humans being inherently hostile does not mesh well with humans being inherently social. There must be facets to this? Like certain cultural norms?

Actually, you're correct. I should have explained a bit more. What I meant was, wherever there are humans there will be hostile ones. You're correct though that there must obviously be a cause of this. Humans aren't born hostile. Its very much a cause of the environment we grow up in and cultural norms. It just so happens though that the Earth is a hostile place to be in, full stop, no matter where you live or what culture you grow in.

This is a result of globalisation and the fact that this planet profits from war. The biggest industries on this planet are the arms industries. Then you combine that with the self-centredness and selfishness of pop culture which is everywhere due to globalisation; you have a selfish and hostile global environment.

This however is manufactured that way and there are exceptions, for example there will probably be a group of monks that live in a cave in rural Tibet somewhere that are completely oblivious to all this and don't even understand the concept of the things I just discussed.

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

Humans are hostile creatures, doesn't matter what you believe. However, I must admit that Atheists are probably the most quick to label others as hostile. I guess some think they are exceptional and not in the norm of the deluded, when really they're being just as ignorant as those they aim to separate themselves from. Again, these will be the minority, which is always the case.

Moral of the story: Wherever there are humans, there will be hostility, no matter what they believe in.

Asim90

That's a pretty one-sided way of looking at things, isn't it? Humans being inherently hostile does not mesh well with humans being inherently social. There must be facets to this? Like certain cultural norms?

Actually, you're correct. I should have explained a bit more. What I meant was, wherever there are humans there will be hostile ones. You're correct though that there must obviously be a cause of this. Humans aren't born hostile. Its very much a cause of the environment we grow up in and cultural norms. It just so happens though that the Earth is a hostile place to be in, full stop, no matter where you live or what culture you grow in.

This is a result of globalisation and the fact that this planet profits from war. The biggest industries on this planet are the arms industries. Then you combine that with the self-centredness and selfishness of pop culture which is everywhere due to globalisation; you have a selfish and hostile global environment.

This however is manufactured that way and there are exceptions, for example there will probably be a group of monks that live in a cave in rural Tibet somewhere that are completely oblivious to all this and don't even understand the concept of the things I just discussed.

Thanks for taking out the time to clear that up for me. Also, I find it interesting that, albeit a tad crude, I agree with everything you just postulated. (:

carlyle group 1 utopia 0

i find that when i talk to believers and they ask me my beliefs, all it takes is for me to say that i am not convinced there is a god and i find all religions to be a load of rubbish and they get all offended. but i don't get offended if the believe says that they do believe in a god and that religion is the truth.

Eh, I'm an Atheist with tendencies to Agnosticism, and I've got to say: when an Atheist acts like that, he's usually concerned about his own beliefs. In my own experience with other Atheists, I have to say: when they try to deny a religion or deity with too much veracity, they're most likely in doubt as to whether something divine is possible or not.

iAtrocious

Eh, I'm an Atheist with tendencies to Agnosticism, and I've got to say: when an Atheist acts like that, he's usually concerned about his own beliefs. In my own experience with other Atheists, I have to say: when they try to deny a religion or deity with too much veracity, they're most likely in doubt as to whether something divine is possible or not.

iAtrocious

Seriously, why do atheists always feel the need to destroy other's beliefs?

Discuss.

eyebrows250

[QUOTE="eyebrows250"]

Seriously, why do atheists always feel the need to destroy other's beliefs?

Discuss.

Miroku32

Are they trying to drag down everyone else with them? In every topic I see with the word "God" or "religion" in it, you immediately see all the non-believers quoting "there is no God" or "Science is proving everything false". What happened to being respectful of others? Seriously, why do atheists always feel the need to destroy other's beliefs?

Discuss.

eyebrows250

[QUOTE="WockaFlocka"][QUOTE="BreakTheseLinks"]Uh I would have to say that "believers" (as you put it) are much worse. I hate preachy people on either side. I believe in God but I don't go around telling people that are atheist they are going to hell, it's not my place to judge. The same can be said for atheists. DudeNtheRoom

I am not really an atheist so to say but I don't really have a religion either that saying if I see a topic about god I don't want to destroy other peoples beliefs people can believe what ever they want I am just saying that I don't believe in it. Thats me I don't know about other people.

Years ago, i started a job cleaning carpets. When i got into the work van on my first day on the job, the driver whips out a bible and insisted that i read the Lords prayer with him. You want to see hostile, i wish you could have been there to see my reaction.

Because they know there is a God but they're too afraid to admit it [...]TheAnswerEdgar

Vocal minority. Same way I get Christians coming to my house telling me to worship their god or I'll be sent to hell. Ace6301

[QUOTE="TheAnswerEdgar"]Because they know there is a God but they're too afraid to admit it [...]foxhound_fox

you serious right?

And what about theists claiming there is a God? Arent they destroying the atheists' beliefs?

[spoiler] What you are describing is called disagreement, unless the examples you gave isnt really what you had in mind. [/spoiler]

Yeah atheists as so hostile.

Atheist blowing selves up in the name of nothing.

Atheists rallying and treating gays like they are sub-human.

Using their churches to protect their priests from molestation charges.

Atheists treating their women badly, and suppressing their rights.

Atheists believing non-belivers be forced to convert or be killed.

Athiests indoctrinating and trying to force their children to think like them, instead of choosing for themselves.

Yeah atheists as so hostile.

Atheist blowing selves up in the name of nothing.

Atheists rallying and treating gays like they are sub-human.

Using their churches to protect their priests from molestation charges.

Atheists treating their women badly, and suppressing their rights.

Atheists believing non-belivers be forced to convert or be killed.

Athiests indoctrinating and trying to force their children to think like them, instead of choosing for themselves.

deangallop

eh that's more like theistic thought if anything, but yeah, nice. :| :| /OT