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I would argue that it doesn't match the definition of parasite, it is concieved by will, and unltimately benefits the host by continuing the species.
symbiosis is a close relationship between two or more species...but it doesn't involve everyone in that species. i say you are wrong. FETUS IS NOT A BABY (GOOGLE THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because the classification of the biological relationship that is based on the behavior one organism (fetus) and how it relates to the woman's body. as a zygote, it invaded the woman's uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG--- so her body doesn't kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death.I would argue that it doesn't match the definition of parasite, it is concieved by will, and unltimately benefits the host by continuing the species.
Overlord93
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]It's a piss poor attempt at degrading a fetus. I'm mean if it's a mother rights than why revert to degrading?I dont think he's succeeding. :PEven if you call it that, then so what?
alexside1
He can try and include the fetus in any definition he likes. It doesnt necessarily change anything unless he takes part in a discussion where a specific aspect is being discussed that is relevant to the definition of "parasite".
It's a piss poor attempt at degrading a fetus. I'm mean if it's a mother rights than why revert to degrading?The thing is... I dont see it. :P[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]
Even if you call it that, then so what?
Teenaged
He can try and include the fetus in any definition he likes. It doesnt necessarily change anything unless he takes part in a discussion where a specific aspect is being discussed that is relevant to the definition of "parasite".
You might not see it, but I do. Every time the topic abortion pops up, I see degradation of the fetus from the pro-choice side. It's begs the question on whatever or not they really for the woman rights or condoning the abortion itself.If we benefit, doesn't that mean they aren't parasites?Even if you call it that, then so what?
We have other parasites living in our bodies that actually have a beneficial role (gut flora would be one example if I am not horribly mistaken). The term "parasite" doesnt necessarily denote something negative.
Teenaged
If we benefit, doesn't that mean they aren't parasites?David719Imay not be very knowledgable of the definition of a parasite. Is a parasite always causing trouble?
[QUOTE="alexside1"] You might not see it, but I do. Every time the topic abortion pops up, I see degradation of the fetus from the pro-choice side. It's begs the question on whatever or not they really for the woman rights or condoning the abortion itself.TeenagedNo, I mean, he is not succeeding in it.
If we benefit, doesn't that mean they aren't parasites?David719Imay not be very knowledgable of the definition of a parasite. Is a parasite always causing trouble?
Parasite is a realtionship when the one is benifiting while the other one is being harmed. (I.E. A leach for example)
Imay not be very knowledgable of the definition of a parasite. Is a parasite always causing trouble?TeenagedI might be wrong, but I think that to be considered a parasite, only the organism can benefit. The host will be negatively affected in some way. With that said, I don't think a fetus counts as one, for a parasite must be of a different species
Even if you call it that, then so what?
We have other parasites living in our bodies that actually have a beneficial role (gut flora would be one example if I am not horribly mistaken). The term "parasite" doesnt necessarily denote something negative.
TC put it that way. That's the problem."This is SCIENCE!"
*cites mainly wikipedia and yahoo answers*
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I'm pretty sure that science draws a distinction between parasitism and reproduction. Reproduction is an important characteristic of life; I mean look at our bodies - reproductive organs make up a significant part of the male and female anatomy.
can you prove me wrong with science? do you know what a cop-out is?galerouth1. You are disproven:
Parasitism is a type of non mutual relationship between organisms of different species
2. We dont have to disprove you, cause whatever you're trying to infer from your conclusion that the fetus is a parasite, is just a subjective opinion.
Kind of. A fetus is basically like a parasite, in the sense that it has no independent social existence as a result of total biological dependence on the host.
I've always agreed with that view on babies lol. The only difference I see though, disregarding rape or an "accident", is that babies are a parasite we want to have, it brings happiness in the parents. Last time I checked we dont jump and shout saying "Yay I have malaria!!" On a side note though I see nothing wrong with being leabled as a parasite, its a part of nature we all go through in order to survive.
You sound upset. no, not really ...i was at the library, and my time was running out.[QUOTE="galerouth"]sorry, if it's a benefit to the host's body...then the relationship is not parasitic. i never the human fetus being a parasite WAS never...i just stated science--- so be butthurt else where, please.Teenaged
I might be wrong, but I think that to be considered a parasite, only the organism can benefit. The host will be negatively affected in some way. With that said, I don't think a fetus counts as one, for a parasite must be of a different species wrong, "It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species." http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things. just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin "an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parasite[QUOTE="Teenaged"] Imay not be very knowledgable of the definition of a parasite. Is a parasite always causing trouble?David719
and your point is? the fact that women evolved with uteri is moot...as a zygote, it invaded the woman's uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG--- so her body doesn't kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death. "an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parasite"This is SCIENCE!"
*cites mainly wikipedia and yahoo answers*
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I'm pretty sure that science draws a distinction between parasitism and reproduction. Reproduction is an important characteristic of life; I mean look at our bodies - reproductive organs make up a significant part of the male and female anatomy.
Meinhard1
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