[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]unborn baby is a misnomer and oxymoron of the human development chart.Assign classifications as much as you like. Whatever helps you.Ah, the lengths people go to in order to rationalize killing an unborn baby.
Too bad people don't just call it what it is.... Killing. It's not like killing isn't 'acceptable' in other areas of life. We kill people on the battle field. We kill people on death row. Wekill people in self defence. Etc, etc
galerouth
Is the human fetus a parasite according to science?
This topic is locked from further discussion.
I actually had a discussion on this with one of the biology classes I took and we all agreed that the fetus is a parasite (professor agreed as well). Some argued that they continuen being parasites until they are about 5 since humans have no sort of survival instinct and would die quickly without a host or parent to nurture them
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]If you think that wikipedia's articles can contain errors then dont quote it again.[QUOTE="galerouth"] that wiki page doesn't count that parasites can be the same species at the host, just it has a page about parasitic twins...the editors need to fix that. "It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species." http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things. just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twingalerouth
Your quote doesnt even mention the word parasite/parasitic.
Dont you think that this doesnt help what you're trying to prove?
can you prove wiki wrong?Did I doubt wikipedia?I even cited it.
Are you ok?
can you prove wiki wrong?Did I doubt wikipedia?[QUOTE="galerouth"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]If you think that wikipedia's articles can contain errors then dont quote it again.
Your quote doesnt even mention the word parasite/parasitic.
Dont you think that this doesnt help what you're trying to prove?
Teenaged
I even cited it.
Are you ok?
are you ok? where did i quote wiki's parasite or parasitism page in my original post ? you brought wiki's parasite/parasitism up, and i explain WHY i didn't use it BECAUSE it has errors on it. AGAIN: just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin ; wiki's pages of parasite/parasitism doesn't account that parasitic twins exists, THUS a parasite can be the same species as its host. since " http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things page exist, i don't need wiki's parasite/parasitism pages...just the parasitic twin page. is there something else you want to B*tch about?[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Did I doubt wikipedia?[QUOTE="galerouth"] can you prove wiki wrong?galerouth
I even cited it.
Are you ok?
are you ok? where did i quote wiki's parasite or parasitism page in my original post ? you brought wiki's parasite/parasitism up, and i explain WHY i didn't use it BECAUSE it has errors on it. AGAIN: just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin ; wiki's pages of parasite/parasitism doesn't account that parasitic twins exists, THUS a parasite can be the same species as its host. since " http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things page exist, i don't need wiki's parasite/parasitism pages...just the parasitic twin page. is there something else you want to B*tch about?You cited Wikipedia plenty of times. Maybe not in your OP but why does that matter?Either you go by what Wikipedia says (and not only when it suits your argument) or discredit it altogether.
A trophoblast is a specific stage of development, a zygote doesn't use its "trophoblastic cells". A trophoblast implants into the endometrial wall. An endometrial wall that has thickened in order to provide for said embryo. A parasite does not get an open welcome like that. Given that for genetic diversity - which may not be the case in your family - a fetus is made up of half DNA from each parent. This is advantageous and thus many species have adopted this as it increases genetic diversity and in a sense adapatability. The body anticipates this, which is why the immune system and pregnancy work together.
Look up "function of the uterus" and science will show you that the embryo/fetus is not a parasite. Unless you have an alternate reason why a woman has a uterus? With science of course.
Let's set science aside for a moment: a fetus is not a parasite unless it grows up to become a personal-injury lawyer, investment banker, politician, art-history major or *insert political cause of your choice here* activist.
unborn baby is a misnomer and oxymoron of the human development chart.Assign classifications as much as you like. Whatever helps you. so the truth helps me alot, there is no "unborn baby" in the human development chart.[QUOTE="galerouth"][QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]
Ah, the lengths people go to in order to rationalize killing an unborn baby.
Too bad people don't just call it what it is.... Killing. It's not like killing isn't 'acceptable' in other areas of life. We kill people on the battle field. We kill people on death row. Wekill people in self defence. Etc, etc
Planet_Pluto
are you ok? where did i quote wiki's parasite or parasitism page in my original post ? you brought wiki's parasite/parasitism up, and i explain WHY i didn't use it BECAUSE it has errors on it. AGAIN: just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin ; wiki's pages of parasite/parasitism doesn't account that parasitic twins exists, THUS a parasite can be the same species as its host. since " http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things page exist, i don't need wiki's parasite/parasitism pages...just the parasitic twin page. is there something else you want to B*tch about?You cited Wikipedia plenty of times. Maybe not in your OP but why does that matter?[QUOTE="galerouth"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Did I doubt wikipedia?
I even cited it.
Are you ok?
Teenaged
Either you go by what Wikipedia says (and not only when it suits your argument) or discredit it altogether.
i have the RIGHT to cite whatever i want, it's up to the public to prove me wrong with science. the fact that i said that one wiki page was wrong, that i didn't even used in my ordinal post doesn't negate all the other wiki pages i used. troll harder or prove me wrong on this: THIS IS SCIENCE: FETUS IS NOT A BABY (GOOGLE THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because the classification of the biological relationship that is based on the behavior one organism (fetus) and how it relates to the woman's body. as a zygote, it invaded the woman's uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG--- so her body doesn't kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophoblast "The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, creating an immunologically privileged site. For this purpose, it uses several mechanisms: It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.[2]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_tolerance_in_pregnancy "Progesterone enriches the uterus with a thick lining of blood vessels and capillaries so that it can sustain the growing fetus. Due to its highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin "It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species." http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things. just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin "an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parasite pregnancy CAUSES HARM: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm[QUOTE="sonicare"]Obviously to house a parasite. really, prove your point negates all of this: THIS IS SCIENCE: FETUS IS NOT A BABY (GOOGLE THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because the classification of the biological relationship that is based on the behavior one organism (fetus) and how it relates to the woman's body. as a zygote, it invaded the woman's uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG--- so her body doesn't kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophoblast "The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, creating an immunologically privileged site. For this purpose, it uses several mechanisms: It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.[2]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_tolerance_in_pregnancy "Progesterone enriches the uterus with a thick lining of blood vessels and capillaries so that it can sustain the growing fetus. Due to its highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin "It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species." http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things. just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin "an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parasite pregnancy CAUSES HARM: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm try harder.Look up "function of the uterus" and science will show you that the embryo/fetus is not a parasite. Unless you have an alternate reason why a woman has a uterus? With science of course.
BranKetra
i have the RIGHT to cite whatever i want, it's up to the public to prove me wrong with science. the fact that i said that one wiki page was wrong, that i didn't even used in my ordinal post doesn't negate all the other wiki pages i used. galerouthUm sure you do, and I have the right to call you out on your inconsistency.
If one page of wikipedia has an error it doesnt mean all the others do but it leaves the possibility open, so I dont really have to prove you wrong when your entire method of argumentation is flawed.
Now go back to the library (is that where you said you were earlier?) and actually read a book or two. Biology preferrably.
your point is moot, since it still invaded a woman's body and hijacked her immune system. THIS IS SCIENCE: FETUS IS NOT A BABY (GOOGLE THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because the classification of the biological relationship that is based on the behavior one organism (fetus) and how it relates to the woman's body. as a zygote, it invaded the woman's uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG--- so her body doesn't kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophoblast "The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, creating an immunologically privileged site. For this purpose, it uses several mechanisms: It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.[2]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_tolerance_in_pregnancy "Progesterone enriches the uterus with a thick lining of blood vessels and capillaries so that it can sustain the growing fetus. Due to its highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin "It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species." http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things. just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin "an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parasite pregnancy CAUSES HARM: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htmgalerouth
The most core meaning of life, as nature would tell you it to survive and re produce.
Trophoblast cells are the outer cells of the zygote that it use to invade, it's still have to hijacked a woman's immune system, which you keep forgetting that some strange reason. "The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, creating an immunologically privileged site. For this purpose, it uses several mechanisms: It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.[2]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_tolerance_in_pregnancy "Progesterone enriches the uterus with a thick lining of blood vessels and capillaries so that it can sustain the growing fetus. Due to its highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin "a fetus is made up of half DNA from each parent. " no one is arguing that. "This is advantageous and thus many species have adopted this as it increases genetic diversity and in a sense adapatability. The body anticipates this, which is why the immune system and pregnancy work together." you mean, if the zygote invades and hijacks properly...there are still cases of RH FACTOR PROBLEMS. "This combination can produce a child who is Rh positive. While the mother's and baby's blood systems are separate there are times when the blood from the baby can enter into the mother's system. This can cause the mother to create antibodies against the Rh factor, thus treating an Rh positive baby like an intruder in her body. If this happens the mother is said to be sensitized. A sensitized mother's body will make antibodies. These antibodies will then attack an Rh positive baby's blood, causing it to breaking down the red blood cells of the baby and anemia will develop. In severe cases this hemolytic disease can cause illness, brain damage and even death." http://pregnancy.about.com/od/rhfactor/a/Rh-Factor-in-Pregnancy.htm TROLL HARDER OR ACCEPT SCIENCE.A trophoblast is a specific stage of development, a zygote doesn't use its "trophoblastic cells". A trophoblast implants into the endometrial wall. An endometrial wall that has thickened in order to provide for said embryo. A parasite does not get an open welcome like that. Given that for genetic diversity - which may not be the case in your family - a fetus is made up of half DNA from each parent. This is advantageous and thus many species have adopted this as it increases genetic diversity and in a sense adapatability. The body anticipates this, which is why the immune system and pregnancy work together.
sonicare
because i can and almost no one new coming to the thread wants to go see the first comment, i'm going to help them out, again: THIS IS SCIENCE: FETUS IS NOT A BABY (GOOGLE THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because the classification of the biological relationship that is based on the behavior one organism (fetus) and how it relates to the woman's body. as a zygote, it invaded the woman's uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG--- so her body doesn't kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophoblast "The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, creating an immunologically privileged site. For this purpose, it uses several mechanisms: It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.[2]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_tolerance_in_pregnancy "Progesterone enriches the uterus with a thick lining of blood vessels and capillaries so that it can sustain the growing fetus. Due to its highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin "It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species." http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things. just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin "an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parasite pregnancy CAUSES HARM: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm if a man can abort his tapeworm at anytime-- so should a woman abort her unwanted parasitic fetus, too. THIS IS THE LAW: ABORTION IS A CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT SUPPORTED BY THE RIGHTS TO PRIVACY, THE EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT, AND THE 13TH AMENDMENT. NO HUMAN ( that means the FETUS, too) has a right to life or any due process rights by the 14th amendment to use another human's body or body parts AGAINST their will, civil and constitutional rights: that's why you are not forced to donate your kidney---the human fetus is no exception; this is supported by the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment AND 13th amendment, which makes reproductive slavery unconstitutional. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause "Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution this makes viability unconstitutional because pregnancy is not a crime. consensual sex=/= a legal, binding contract to an unwanted fetus to live; and abortion is not murder, the unlawful killing with intent. THE BIBLE: the bible supported abortion, that was done by a priest, in god's name, in his holly temple! the 1984 NIV footnote of numbers 5:11-31 explained what "to thy thigh to rot, they belly to swell" meant: numbers 5:21 "or causes you to have a miscarrying womb and barrenness" to CAUSE a miscarrying womb IS an abortion. 'Ephraim, as I saw Tyre, is planted in a pleasant place; but Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer." Give them, O LORD -- what wilt Thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts...Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit; yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.' HOSEA 9-16 the judeo-christian god is a myth and historical evidence proves it. 3.3.3 ATHEISM: A HISTORY OF GOD (Part 1) http://www.evilbible.com/god http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/abortion.htmlwhy do you keep reposting the huge section of your comment when you just add a few new sentences
DarthTuna
AND YOUR POINT IN RELATION TO MY POST IS?[QUOTE="galerouth"][QUOTE="DarthTuna"]
The most core meaning of life, as nature would tell you it to survive and re produce.
DarthTuna
Your topic is according to science, is a fetus a parasite. The answer is no according to biology.
can you prove all of this wrong: THIS IS SCIENCE: FETUS IS NOT A BABY (GOOGLE THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because the classification of the biological relationship that is based on the behavior one organism (fetus) and how it relates to the woman's body. as a zygote, it invaded the woman's uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG--- so her body doesn't kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophoblast "The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, creating an immunologically privileged site. For this purpose, it uses several mechanisms: It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.[2]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_tolerance_in_pregnancy "Progesterone enriches the uterus with a thick lining of blood vessels and capillaries so that it can sustain the growing fetus. Due to its highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin "It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species." http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things. just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin "an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parasite pregnancy CAUSES HARM: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm[QUOTE="galerouth"][QUOTE="alexside1"]At this point of time your copying pasting arguments that has been refuted already.alexside1no one has debunked me, yet Reverting to self-delusions aren't we? fine, since i'm delusional... re-post your comment that proves me wrong, or in reality that your body resides in and where i live in, you can just re-post the same grasping at straws arguments.
[QUOTE="DarthTuna"][QUOTE="galerouth"] AND YOUR POINT IN RELATION TO MY POST IS?galerouth
Your topic is according to science, is a fetus a parasite. The answer is no according to biology.
can you prove all of this wrong: THIS IS SCIENCE: FETUS IS NOT A BABY (GOOGLE THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because the classification of the biological relationship that is based on the behavior one organism (fetus) and how it relates to the woman's body. as a zygote, it invaded the woman's uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG--- so her body doesn't kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophoblast "The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, creating an immunologically privileged site. For this purpose, it uses several mechanisms: It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.[2]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_tolerance_in_pregnancy "Progesterone enriches the uterus with a thick lining of blood vessels and capillaries so that it can sustain the growing fetus. Due to its highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin "It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species." http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things. just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin "an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parasite pregnancy CAUSES HARM: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htmI already pointed out an example...imagine somone trying to save somone who is stuck in a buring building. The person performing the rescue has no benifiet from it and is putting themselves in extreme harm just to give another person life. This does not make it bad.
Um sure you do, and I have the right to call you out on your inconsistency.[QUOTE="galerouth"]i have the RIGHT to cite whatever i want, it's up to the public to prove me wrong with science. the fact that i said that one wiki page was wrong, that i didn't even used in my ordinal post doesn't negate all the other wiki pages i used. Teenaged
If one page of wikipedia has an error it doesnt mean all the others do but it leaves the possibility open, so I dont really have to prove you wrong when your entire method of argumentation is flawed.
Now go back to the library (is that where you said you were earlier?) and actually read a book or two. Biology preferrably.
you can prove me wrong or you can just re-post the same grasping at straws arguments, like everyone else on this thread against me.... no one has proved me wrong with science that the human fetus is NOT a parasite....when we all know it is. since i'm using wiki...you should be able to prove me wrong with science, by now...so what are you waiting for?I already pointed out an example...imagine somone trying to save somone who is stuck in a buring building. The person performing the rescue has no benifiet from it and is putting themselves in extreme harm just to give another person life. This does not make it bad. DarthTunawow, that's lame... try using science and i have imagination. toll harder.
[QUOTE="DarthTuna"] I already pointed out an example...imagine somone trying to save somone who is stuck in a buring building. The person performing the rescue has no benifiet from it and is putting themselves in extreme harm just to give another person life. This does not make it bad. galerouthwow, that's lame... try using science and i have imagination. toll harder.
Most people like lower prices, not the other way around.
[QUOTE="DarthTuna"] I already pointed out an example...imagine somone trying to save somone who is stuck in a buring building. The person performing the rescue has no benifiet from it and is putting themselves in extreme harm just to give another person life. This does not make it bad. galerouthwow, that's lame... try using science and i have imagination. toll harder.
the only reason you.me.or anyone is posting and typing right now is because you use to be a fetus who belonged to a host that willingly let you reap benefits from it which eventually turned you into a baby, being born...to know. That host was also a fetus who belonged to another host who let it inavde its benefits and that cycle keeps repeating backwards. Give back,recive,give back recive,give back recive, thats the cycle. in nature, life is not just something you get. Its a privledge and responsibility
And alsoa parasite is anything that receives a benefit by causing harm to its host. So we really need to ask if the mother is being harmed. Well, she needs to eat more, which can be a problem when resources are limited. She gets heavy, which means that she's less likely to be able to run from danger.
HOWEVER, she is dedicating her own body to the health of her baby. Because the baby shares 50% of its genes with its mother, by having a healthy baby, the mother is really increasing her fitness in the long run. Before there was the baby, the mother had 100% of her genes in the environment. After the baby, there will be 150%. And a healthy baby will go on to produce its own babies, in theory.
So, evolution has favored this high level of parental care because in the long run, mothers increase their own fitness even through pregnancy might be tough.
THIS IS SCIENCE...galerouthScience? No...
...which makes as much sense in the context of this thread as your continued copy/pasta OP as "proof" of your point.
Your point is moot since the purpose of the uterus is to house the embryo/fetus. That is its function. So when an embryo implants onto a uterus, it is behaving according to the body's intentions. It is not a foreign/invading organism. It is recognized by the body and in essence supplied by the body.
just curious, why do you keep asking this same question? Most people on this thread are saying you are just re posting. It was random but I found this http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110902062549AAHwvUg ....which is your acount asking this same question from what i see is 5 months ago and you use same sources. Is there something emotional you have over fetuses? Are you just interested in fetuses?
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Um sure you do, and I have the right to call you out on your inconsistency.[QUOTE="galerouth"]i have the RIGHT to cite whatever i want, it's up to the public to prove me wrong with science. the fact that i said that one wiki page was wrong, that i didn't even used in my ordinal post doesn't negate all the other wiki pages i used. galerouth
If one page of wikipedia has an error it doesnt mean all the others do but it leaves the possibility open, so I dont really have to prove you wrong when your entire method of argumentation is flawed.
Now go back to the library (is that where you said you were earlier?) and actually read a book or two. Biology preferrably.
you can prove me wrong or you can just re-post the same grasping at straws arguments, like everyone else on this thread against me.... no one has proved me wrong with science that the human fetus is NOT a parasite....when we all know it is. since i'm using wiki...you should be able to prove me wrong with science, by now...so what are you waiting for?You havent even proven it is.When you do, then people will try to prove you wrong.
Although to be fair people have tried but they were just dismissed without any counterargument which isnt very scientific, now is it?
you can prove me wrong or you can just re-post the same grasping at straws arguments, like everyone else on this thread against me.... no one has proved me wrong with science that the human fetus is NOT a parasite....when we all know it is. since i'm using wiki...you should be able to prove me wrong with science, by now...so what are you waiting for?You havent even proven it is.[QUOTE="galerouth"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Um sure you do, and I have the right to call you out on your inconsistency.
If one page of wikipedia has an error it doesnt mean all the others do but it leaves the possibility open, so I dont really have to prove you wrong when your entire method of argumentation is flawed.
Now go back to the library (is that where you said you were earlier?) and actually read a book or two. Biology preferrably.
Teenaged
When you do, then people will try to prove you wrong.
Although to be fair people have tried but they were just dismissed without any counterargument which isnt very scientific, now is it?
This is Science. I can partially quote a text so it seemingly supports my point of view or draw erroneous conclusions from data. This is science!Maybe he's upset that Oklahoma is making it illegal to eat them, and needs to spread the word so his supply doesn't get cut off.just curious, why do you keep asking this same question? Most people on this thread are saying you are just re posting. It was random but I found this http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110902062549AAHwvUg ....which is your acount asking this same question from what i see is 5 months ago and you use same sources. Is there something emotional you have over fetuses? Are you just interested in fetuses?
DarthTuna
wow, that's lame... try using science and i have imagination. toll harder.[QUOTE="galerouth"][QUOTE="DarthTuna"] I already pointed out an example...imagine somone trying to save somone who is stuck in a buring building. The person performing the rescue has no benifiet from it and is putting themselves in extreme harm just to give another person life. This does not make it bad. Xeogua
Most people like lower prices, not the other way around.
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