Answers About 9/11 That Conspiracy Theorists Don't Want to Hear

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#351 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

I couldn't back up my claims? Do you even understand what credibility means in regards to news media?

ThePlothole

It certainly doesn't mean that if you don't like the NAME of a website, you ignore it.

You can't just say a website isn't credible when it doesn't benefit you.

Also, if you say something isn't credible, you have to back this up with at least SOME type of evidence.

A credible site tries to be unbiased. Or at least tries not to make their bias so apparent. That is the only reason I called out on the name.)

A credible site will attempt to verify its sources, and prove that it has if questioned.

A credible site has proven itself through years of journalistic integrity.

A credible site isn't going to be the only source. Others, including the mainstream media, would do everything in their power to get a scope of their own.

Well said.

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#352 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]as are most rejections of conspiracies. ThePlothole

A "rejection" is more likely to be built on actual facts.

nah - there are equally ridiculous rejections which is likely why truthers continue their pursuit. usually a conspiracy thrives when the 'facts' are being disputed, so i think you're missing the point. again - not a truther. i just find most of the rejections just as ridiculous as the theories.
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#353 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

It certainly doesn't mean that if you don't like the NAME of a website, you ignore it.

You can't just say a website isn't credible when it doesn't benefit you.

Also, if you say something isn't credible, you have to back this up with at least SOME type of evidence.

chessmaster1989

A credible site tries to be unbiased. Or at least tries not to make their bias so apparent. That is the only reason I called out on the name.)

A credible site will attempt to verify its sources, and prove that it has if questioned.

A credible site has proven itself through years of journalistic integrity.

A credible site isn't going to be the only source. Others, including the mainstream media, would do everything in their power to get a scope of their own.

Well said.

Or, more simply: If a person has a history of saying stupid things, he will likely continue to say stupid things.
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#354 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Oh the irony...-Sun_Tzu-

I don't see it :?.

Person A ask for a source. Person B provides source. Person A says but I don't like the name of this source so we can't use it.

Where's the irony in that?

Well, considering the fact that you are attempting to construct an argument for why the idea that the government was behind 9/11 is somehow plausible; an argument which requires you to denounce the credibility of an overwhelming amount of evidence that says to the contrary.

Actually, I don't believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories :D. I was trying to construct an argument either. Someone asked for a source, so I used google to find one. I'm just saying that you can't say the site isn't credible without backing up your claims.

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#355 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

I don't see it :?.

Person A ask for a source. Person B provides source. Person A says but I don't like the name of this source so we can't use it.

Where's the irony in that?

ownage_denied

Well, considering the fact that you are attempting to construct an argument for why the idea that the government was behind 9/11 is somehow plausible; an argument which requires you to denounce the credibility of an overwhelming amount of evidence that says to the contrary.

Actually, I don't believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories :D. I was trying to construct an argument either. Someone asked for a source, so I used google to find one. I'm just saying that you can't say the site isn't credible without backing up your claims.

I am not pleased :evil:

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#356 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

:lol: No, you just chose to ignore me. I told you I do not trust sources that are blatantly and obviously biased. I think you'll find that true of many people.

chessmaster1989

What part of you have to back up this claim did you miss?

Link me back to the site?

Here's the link.

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#357 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Well, considering the fact that you are attempting to construct an argument for why the idea that the government was behind 9/11 is somehow plausible; an argument which requires you to denounce the credibility of an overwhelming amount of evidence that says to the contrary. chessmaster1989

Actually, I don't believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories :D. I was trying to construct an argument either. Someone asked for a source, so I used google to find one. I'm just saying that you can't say the site isn't credible without backing up your claims.

I am not pleased :evil:

:lol: Sorry to disappoint.

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#358 ThePlothole
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Actually, I don't believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories :D. I was trying to construct an argument either. Someone asked for a source, so I used google to find one. I'm just saying that you can't say the site isn't credible without backing up your claims.

ownage_denied

Great... now who am I supposed Flambé for these poor orphans?

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#359 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

Actually, I don't believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories :D. I was trying to construct an argument either. Someone asked for a source, so I used google to find one. I'm just saying that you can't say the site isn't credible without backing up your claims.

ownage_denied

I am not pleased :evil:

:lol: Sorry to disappoint.

I spent time trying to convince you that that site was not credible, and you did not even believe what was on it.

Like I said...

I am not pleased :evil:

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#360 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"][QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

I couldn't back up my claims? Do you even understand what credibility means in regards to news media?

ThePlothole

It certainly doesn't mean that if you don't like the NAME of a website, you ignore it.

You can't just say a website isn't credible when it doesn't benefit you.

Also, if you say something isn't credible, you have to back this up with at least SOME type of evidence.

A credible site tries to be unbiased. Or at least tries not to make their bias so apparent. That is the only reason I called out on the name.)

A credible site will attempt to verify its sources, and prove that it has if questioned.

A credible site has proven itself through years of journalistic integrity.

A credible site isn't going to be the only source. Others, including the mainstream media, would do everything in their power to get a scope of their own.

This should be simple then. Can you prove that this site has done none of the above?

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#361 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

I don't see it :?.

Person A ask for a source. Person B provides source. Person A says but I don't like the name of this source so we can't use it.

Where's the irony in that?

ownage_denied

Well, considering the fact that you are attempting to construct an argument for why the idea that the government was behind 9/11 is somehow plausible; an argument which requires you to denounce the credibility of an overwhelming amount of evidence that says to the contrary.

Actually, I don't believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories :D. I was trying to construct an argument either. Someone asked for a source, so I used google to find one. I'm just saying that you can't say the site isn't credible without backing up your claims.

Regardless if you believe in conspiracy theories or not, you were trying to perpetuate them with the link that you provided. And you were constructing an argument to explore the idea that the government being behind 9/11 is plausible by providing said link.
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#362 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I am not pleased :evil:

chessmaster1989

:lol: Sorry to disappoint.

I spent time trying to convince you that that site was not credible, and you did not even believe what was on it.

Like I said...

I am not pleased :evil:

This should make up for it :D.

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#363 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

What part of you have to back up this claim did you miss?

ownage_denied

Link me back to the site?

Here's the link.

Not too familiar with that source... Not the same sort of infamy as AE911Truth...
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#364 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Well, considering the fact that you are attempting to construct an argument for why the idea that the government was behind 9/11 is somehow plausible; an argument which requires you to denounce the credibility of an overwhelming amount of evidence that says to the contrary. -Sun_Tzu-

Actually, I don't believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories :D. I was trying to construct an argument either. Someone asked for a source, so I used google to find one. I'm just saying that you can't say the site isn't credible without backing up your claims.

Regardless if you believe in conspiracy theories or not, you were trying to perpetuate them with the link that you provided. And you were constructing an argument to explore the idea that the government being behind 9/11 is plausible by providing said link.

No I wasn't :|. I simply provided a source and told them to disprove it.

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#365 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

Actually, I don't believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories :D. I was trying to construct an argument either. Someone asked for a source, so I used google to find one. I'm just saying that you can't say the site isn't credible without backing up your claims.

ownage_denied

Regardless if you believe in conspiracy theories or not, you were trying to perpetuate them with the link that you provided. And you were constructing an argument to explore the idea that the government being behind 9/11 is plausible by providing said link.

No I wasn't :|. I simply provided a source and told them to disprove it.

And by providing that source you were constructing an argument exploring what occurred on 9/11, more specifically the idea that the government was behind it. It is of course a very crude argument but an argument none the less.
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#366 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

:lol: Sorry to disappoint.

ownage_denied

I spent time trying to convince you that that site was not credible, and you did not even believe what was on it.

Like I said...

I am not pleased :evil:

This should make up for it :D.

Send me a real pie, and it will :D.

No fair poisoning it, either ;)

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#367 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Regardless if you believe in conspiracy theories or not, you were trying to perpetuate them with the link that you provided. And you were constructing an argument to explore the idea that the government being behind 9/11 is plausible by providing said link.-Sun_Tzu-

No I wasn't :|. I simply provided a source and told them to disprove it.

And by providing that source you were constructing an argument exploring what occurred on 9/11, more specifically the idea that the government was behind it. It is of course a very crude argument but an argument none the less.

That's not what happened though.

Tjeremiah1988 said many he remembers watching the news and hearing many people say they heard an explosion before any plane hit the towers.

ThePlothole ask for a link to this and the names of the eye witnesses.

I googled what Tjeremiah1988 was talking about and found a link with the things ThePlothole was asking for.

I posted this link.

And the saga continues...

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#368 Talldude80
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No. The government was behind the attacks on 9/11. I don't care how overwhelming your evidence is.LikeHaterade

NO, actually the gov't WANTS US to think they were behind it....... lol

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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]No. The government was behind the attacks on 9/11. I don't care how overwhelming your evidence is.Talldude80

NO, actually the gov't WANTS US to think they were behind it....... lol

Been watching South Park ;)?

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#370 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

No I wasn't :|. I simply provided a source and told them to disprove it.

ownage_denied

And by providing that source you were constructing an argument exploring what occurred on 9/11, more specifically the idea that the government was behind it. It is of course a very crude argument but an argument none the less.

That's not what happened though.

Tjeremiah1988 said many he remembers watching the news and hearing many people say they heard an explosion before any plane hit the towers.

ThePlothole ask for a link to this and the names of the eye witnesses.

I googled what Tjeremiah1988 was talking about and found a link with the things ThePlothole was asking for.

I posted this link.

And the saga continues...

Ok? I know what what was said and who said it and that does not in anyway discredit my previous post. This, at least to me, seems like an extremely trivial debate.
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#371 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] And by providing that source you were constructing an argument exploring what occurred on 9/11, more specifically the idea that the government was behind it. It is of course a very crude argument but an argument none the less. -Sun_Tzu-

That's not what happened though.

Tjeremiah1988 said many he remembers watching the news and hearing many people say they heard an explosion before any plane hit the towers.

ThePlothole ask for a link to this and the names of the eye witnesses.

I googled what Tjeremiah1988 was talking about and found a link with the things ThePlothole was asking for.

I posted this link.

And the saga continues...

Ok? I know what what was said and who said it and that does not in anyway discredit my previous post. This, at least to me, seems like an extremely trivial debate.

I completely agree with this statement. I was just about to resort to yelling I"M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG as loud as possible 8).

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#372 hikari33
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Go watch the South park episode...its the only theory that makes sense