[QUOTE="Fundai"]
[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"]
This is a classic mis-interpretation of being saved through belief.
When you believe in Jesus Christ and accept Him into your life, it is like a transformation. Only after this transformation can you understand that obeying God and doing good works come after belief in Him.
The only requirement to be saved from your sins is to believe in Jesus. There is no amount of works that you can do to earn God's favor. Of course if you do accept Jesus then you will obviously continue to sin for no one is perfect and it will remain a constant struggle. But once Jesus is living through you, you will strive to do his will and to not sin.
GameGuy642003
What if, for example, a Jew, lives a saintly life.
Gives their possesions to the poor, Volunteers with the comunity, Suports their friends, people they meet, e.t.c.
And does it all because it just makes them feel right??? It is what they Know is right.
Your saying he is going to hell?
He might not go to heaven, But I think Purgatory isn't out of the question, hmmm???
Well sadly yes. I person who does good works for anything but for the glory of God through Jesus Christ won't be accepted into the kingdom of Heaven. It is hard to grasp I know, why would God send such a "good person" who does good things to hell? Well because like I said before it is through faith in Jesus not through good works that you are accepted into Heaven. Its something I'm still tryin to understand.
Also about purgatory, in my opinion I believe that purgatory existed before Jesus rose from death, but since Jesus has risen and defeated death purgatory is no more because during the 3 days that Jesus' body was in the tomb he went down to Purgatory to judge everyone that was there and took some to Heaven and some to Hell. This issue is still debated among theologians but tihs is my take on it.
Well now we have entered a point in this debate that depends entirely upon what you and your faith believe...
If your taught/believe that only by knowing Jesus can you be freed from sin, then you'd obviously take your view...
If you were taught/ believe something else, then of course you'd believe something else.
I believe that Jesus's becoming Human, Dieing, and rising restored Gods Conection with man, and Made it possible for sins to be forgiven, and for there to be life after death. Wether or not that means that everyone can now be saved is up to debate.
Just out of Curiosity, what denomination do you belong to???
I'm Catholic BTW.
And i can't say i believe what you do about Purgatory. People are still sinning, and they will still need that cleansing period before they can enter into Gods presence in Heaven.
Just like to add, that if a person somehow didn't sin enough in life to break their relationship with God, So they wouldn't HAVE to recieve reconciliation, what could stop them from entering Heaven?
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