North Texas and SMU (:lol:, gg Death Penalty still haunting you) have been rivals recently as both teams underwhelm their fan bases.

BTW, I didn't really want to start crap earlier but this article kinda defines my opinion of the Red River SHOOTOUT (emphasis mine to fight the man). Horn fans consistently think they are the elite in the conference but I hate to break it to ya: 2 championship game visits in this decade just doesn't cut the mustard when compared to the team (cougheffingbastardscough) that has dominated the conference overall. I know y'all have the most recent national title in all the Big 12, but VY is gone and it doesn't look good for the coming years at current pace (mark my words, McCoy will be fighting for his starting position by the end of the year). This guy is right: The game doesn't always determine who goes on to the Big 12 Championship game and as of late it hasn't been the most relevant thing in the world (VY's win over Ohio State was much more relevant IMO to the horns getting to the NC game). Add in some major upsets (texas blowing 2 in a row to K-State and A&M, OU choking hard in Colorado and Hell [aka Lubbock]), and it seems more like the Big 12 underachieving is the problem...which doesn't speak much to the Shootout being so important.

Actually, to really drive my point home, I reference something I said in response to some homers recently: If not for Vince Young and Nixon, the state of Texas hasn't produced a National title since 1969 (say what you want about 1970, but Nixon's BS had MAJOR sway and completely shut out Penn State's claim at being declared the National Champions). That's appalling when you consider the amount of talent that this state puts out. Which begs the question: Do the schools in this state really underachieve that hard (the answer is partially yes given that the second biggest school, A&M, hasn't dominated since the 1910s and 1939 [should've had a title with Bear Bryant but some lame crap there led to dropping two games in a row to choke it away])? Should schools in this state really be struggling this badly to reach the highest national stage? The fact that we do is a reason why our rivalries are falling by the wayside to lamers like Ohio State and Michigan ;) .

It never fails, every horn fan I know pulls for the Aggies against the sooners. For good reason though, screw OU :lol:.

PS-I love Bennett being picked up by the Boys :D. Should be really good for him, he's not ready to be the number 1 guy yet (he probably thinks he's ready, but he's not) and he'll get plenty of development in Dallas.

[QUOTE="orthancstone"]Just because tech sees the A&M game as their Super Bowl doesn't mean A&M gives a damn about tech as a "rival." :PEspurs117

lol and the Aggies don't see the UT game as their superbowl? I realize UT sees it as a huge game too, but its still under OU.

Bah, texas fans are way too biased based on timeline. 40 years ago you'd say Arkansas instead of OU, meanwhile A&M was still THE in-state rival. And yes, texas is the Superbowl game for A&M but let's face it: People on both sides love the Thansgiving game, even if it is irrelevant to the standings.

Are we really talking about winning conferences? Hey at least Texas beats their rival. ;)

Espurs117

Loss to OU, loss to A&M, beat tech...

So Tech counts as the rival now? ;)

I can't say he was thinking :p. He had no business going after that.

But hey, it worked out. Croatia acted like idiots storming the field with time left to play and Turkey took advantage of the extra time. Save the celebration for after the game.

In the Euros case, the yellow is not cleaned going into Quarters, so they will affect certain players (ask Italy how that's going for them). As for that call, I can understand the Red card for it. He had no real shot so he took the striker out; that's poor play by the defenseman. If you want to take the guy out, let the keeper do it.

I'm surprised to see Rice got 2 and BBQ so easily, I thought they had a better team than that. Really annoys me now that A&M didn't get by Rice, because big bats seems to be the key this year and the Aggies had plenty to show in the offensive category.