@tormentos:

You are either uneducated or ignorant.

There's this little thing called a search engine you can use to verify facts on the web.

From PCWorld -one of about a thousand sources reporting:

AMD’s Raja Koduri said DirectX 12 was like “getting four generations of hardware ahead,” all at once. Intel’s Vice President of Platform Engineering Eric Mentzer shared a similar sentiment, with, “This is absolutely, I think, the most significant jump in technology in a long, long time.”

DX 12 was in development before X1, PS4 or Mantle -so it is not a reaponse to anything.

Not even gonna continue this debate as the tech will speak for itself.

Done responding. Any one who reads this I encourage you to do your research instead of paying heed to people like this that have no clue and randomly make up nonsense.

@Shewgenja:

Because calling me a "Doofus" in your very first line of your response to my post is not insulting, right?

I am not on one side or the other as I own both consoles this Gen and last -as well as a gaming PC. I am a gamer and dont descriminate between platforms. I buy based on games. Right now both console platforms have a couple good exclusives, wish there were more.

I think you've missed the point entirely of my initial post.

I made no definite prediction whatsoever. I never said anything about secret sauce or hidden hardware whatsoever. I merely pointed out what others in the industry are saying such as AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Stardock AND Sony.

And I apologize for the returned insult since it may not apply to you, it still applies to anyone making a definitive statement about future technology without facts to back it up.

I am only talking about what is possible. Same as the statements made by Sony.

More important though is the ability to accomplish these "promises" in a timely manner. MS is continually dropping the ball on that so far, while Sony is doing a phenomenal job of delivering on their promises. I do however believe this will change with Spencer taking over in that the X1 will be focussed on gaming again, as it shouldve been all along.

Sony is doing everything right so far, and I am happy about that.

MS has the opportunity to finally do something right, and I am happy to give them the opportunity.

Anyway, have a good day. Again sorry for the insult as directed at you personally. Turn about is fair play -but I still apologize.

On to better things, like...

Playing games! (Since Im about out of the office)

:-)

@Shewgenja:

The Cards are the same (Obviously) -the OS they run on is not. (Obviously)

You must be new.

While many such as myself are talking about speculative possabilities, fanboys (on either side) such as yourself, continue to make definite statements without the experience or facts to back it up.

Those speculating cant be wrong because its all conjecture we are talking about.

Those making definitive statements about new technology (such as yourself) are going to look absolutely rediculous "IF" you turn out to be wrong.

Anyone who thinks these things are not possible is too immature in the industry to form a valid opinion. This is why SONY (who is an amazing company) has said it is possible. They just dont believe it will be reality -hence the "Be skeptical..." statement.

Those of you saying DX12 will go to ALL cards (including PS4's GPU) are VERY misinformed or new to the industry. DX12 will go to ALL *Windows* based cards as Windows in some form is required for DX12. So no, SONY will not ever get DX12 and neither will Linux, Android or Mac or any other platform not Windows based -at least without some form of emulation (which would create horrible performance for high end gaming).

Also historically DX releases make a huge difference in performance and visuals.

Will it make the games run twice as fast? Hard to say. Is it possible? Most definitely. Even SONY has said this -then laughing saying that it would cause overheating issues if it did. Well -what if it didn't overheat since The X1 does have an undisputed more significant cooling solution than the PS4? (Hence the larger case and massive H/S Fan combo under the hood as evidenced in any tear down video).

Let's not forget that the "DX12 doubling GPU Power" statement did not come from MS -but from Stardock -who is developing games for BOTH consoles.

People continue making silly arguments with obviously VERY little experience. History shows that everything MS is saying is "POSSIBLE" -as AMD, Intel and Nvidia have all made statements to back up the power of DX12 -which according to AMD blows Mantle out of the water, though they said they will continue to develop Mantle.

Remember AMD (developer of both consoles APU's), is the one that said DX12 is like going 4 generations ahead, again this statement was not from MS.

The PS4 DOES have a stronger GPU based on raw CompUnits. Based on old programming models there is no question it would continue to outperform the X1. However if, AND it is a BIG "IF" -MS can actually deliver offloading say half the work from the GPU, then yes in theory while the GPU is not superior to that in the PS4, it would still theoretically perform on par or even possibly better, unless SONY figured out how to do the same thing through their own API's.

In closing...

It is a huge deal that Phil Spencer is the new boss. The X1 development truly starts...

Now.

the same thing happened to my cousin's 60gb so i hope for u they'll look deep into their storage and find a 60gb because i have a 80gb and i'm p o about what it doesn't have ( not chrome trim wtf)da_illest101

You can actually get the Mad Catz device here for much cheaper:

http://store.gameshark.com/viewItem.asp?idProduct=3102&idCategory=96

Fallout didn't kill your PS3 - however it does sound like you may be a victim of the dreaded Yellow Light of Death that so many PS3's have succombed to. You should call tech support as it sounds like you may need service on your console.

Sorry dude.

does anybody know if/ when bethseda are planning to release the downloadable content like the frostcrag spire and spell tomes and stuff like they did for xbox 360 or have they just given up cuz theyre racist towards ps3 owners. lol. gamerist . in any case any info would be appreciated.astrosaki