Xbox Live: Why am I being forced to pay, to play games online?

I really do not understand why I am being charged to play video games online. I understand Xbox Live has other features that we have to pay for but, I have no use for ESPN or facebook on Xbox 360. The only thing I want to do is play online, I couldn't care less about these extra feautures or Xbox live parties. Why can't online be free except foreverything else like Parties, ESPN and all the other useless garbage. I see no justification for raising the price either.

I've already invested a lot in the Xbox so I'm not gonna sell it, but I definately won't be getting their next console if they continue with this practice.

What is Microsoft's justification for charging me to play video games online?

Also this is on system wars because i'm pretty sure a post like this on Xbox forums would get me reported, and/or banned.

You are being charged because you insist on owning a 360. Switch to PC or PS3 and the cost will vanish.

Because MS said so.MonsieurX

I really do not understand why I am being charged to play video games online. I understand Xbox Live has other features that we have to pay for but, I have no use for ESPN or facebook on Xbox 360. The only thing I want to do is play online, I couldn't care less about these extra feautures or Xbox live parties. Why can't online be free except foreverything else like Parties, ESPN and all the other useless garbage. I see no justification for raising the price either.

I've already invested a lot in the Xbox so I'm not gonna sell it, but I definately won't be getting their next console if they continue with this practice.

What is Microsoft's justification for charging me to play video games online?

Also this is on system wars because i'm pretty sure a post like this on Xbox forums would get me reported, and/or banned.

Doesn't this get old, your not being "forced" to do anything, leave go play Ps3 or PC.

[QUOTE="RECON64bit"]

I really do not understand why I am being charged to play video games online. I understand Xbox Live has other features that we have to pay for but, I have no use for ESPN or facebook on Xbox 360. The only thing I want to do is play online, I couldn't care less about these extra feautures or Xbox live parties. Why can't online be free except foreverything else like Parties, ESPN and all the other useless garbage. I see no justification for raising the price either.

I've already invested a lot in the Xbox so I'm not gonna sell it, but I definately won't be getting their next console if they continue with this practice.

What is Microsoft's justification for charging me to play video games online?

Also this is on system wars because i'm pretty sure a post like this on Xbox forums would get me reported, and/or banned.

dommeus

What what do you mean your not renewing , your forced to :roll: /thread

[QUOTE="dommeus"][QUOTE="RECON64bit"]

I really do not understand why I am being charged to play video games online. I understand Xbox Live has other features that we have to pay for but, I have no use for ESPN or facebook on Xbox 360. The only thing I want to do is play online, I couldn't care less about these extra feautures or Xbox live parties. Why can't online be free except foreverything else like Parties, ESPN and all the other useless garbage. I see no justification for raising the price either.

I've already invested a lot in the Xbox so I'm not gonna sell it, but I definately won't be getting their next console if they continue with this practice.

What is Microsoft's justification for charging me to play video games online?

Also this is on system wars because i'm pretty sure a post like this on Xbox forums would get me reported, and/or banned.

Ultra_Combo

What what do you mean your not renewing , your forced to :roll: /thread

Well if I want to play Xbox 360 games online then I have no choice but to pay, so I am being forced aren't I?

Because MS said so.MonsieurX

[QUOTE="dommeus"][QUOTE="RECON64bit"]

I really do not understand why I am being charged to play video games online. I understand Xbox Live has other features that we have to pay for but, I have no use for ESPN or facebook on Xbox 360. The only thing I want to do is play online, I couldn't care less about these extra feautures or Xbox live parties. Why can't online be free except foreverything else like Parties, ESPN and all the other useless garbage. I see no justification for raising the price either.

I've already invested a lot in the Xbox so I'm not gonna sell it, but I definately won't be getting their next console if they continue with this practice.

What is Microsoft's justification for charging me to play video games online?

Also this is on system wars because i'm pretty sure a post like this on Xbox forums would get me reported, and/or banned.

What what do you mean your not renewing , your forced to :roll: /thread

The 360 has become bad for gaming. Yep I said it. I also own one but I refuse to pay for Live Gold and I refuse to buy their casual Kinect system.

Just stop supporting the company and stop buying games for the 360 and switch to the PC or PS3 for playing the same games.

[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

[QUOTE="dommeus"] They charge because people continue to pay. If they stopped paying, MS would rescind the charge. My Live ran out in Dec and I don't plan on renewing it any time soon.RECON64bit

What what do you mean your not renewing , your forced to :roll: /thread

Well if I want to play Xbox 360 games online then I have no choice but to pay, so I am being forced aren't I?

Well you should have done some research then, it clearly says on the xbox that xbox live is required to play multiplayer. The information about the costs of xbox live are readily available. Oh wait let me guess your the the type of peson that buys expensive products without any research and now it's MS fault becuase they tricked you right.

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[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

What what do you mean your not renewing , your forced to :roll: /thread

Ultra_Combo

Well if I want to play Xbox 360 games online then I have no choice but to pay, so I am being forced aren't I?

Well you should have done some research then, it clearly says on the xbox that xbox live is required to play multiplayer. The information about the costs of xbox live are readily available. Oh wait let me guess your the the type of peson that buys expensive products without any research and now it's MS fault becuase they tricked you right.

I already knew Xbox Live wasn't free. But I thought the price was justified by it's features. Now, that I have used Xbox Live it isn't much better than PSN in terms of just playing games online, which is all I want to do.

Well I guess I'll just stick to single players games after my Live runs up, since I got the Xbox at first for games like Mass Effect.

You are being charged because you insist on owning a 360.

Mrmccormo

This. 360 isn't the only device on the planet capable of playing video games. Use one that doesn't charge if you hate it so much.

[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

[QUOTE="RECON64bit"]

Well if I want to play Xbox 360 games online then I have no choice but to pay, so I am being forced aren't I?

RECON64bit

Well you should have done some research then, it clearly says on the xbox that xbox live is required to play multiplayer. The information about the costs of xbox live are readily available. Oh wait let me guess your the the type of peson that buys expensive products without any research and now it's MS fault becuase they tricked you right.

I already knew Xbox Live wasn't free. But I thought the price was justified by it's features. Now, that I have used Xbox Live it isn't much better than PSN in terms of just playing games online, which is all I want to do.

Well I guess I'll just stick to single players games after my Live runs up, since I got the Xbox at first for games like Mass Effect.

Cool play single player on 360 and Multi on PS3 but I quoted you becuase you insinuated your forced to pay to get live when in fact your not.

You are being charged because you insist on owning a 360. Switch to PC or PS3 and the cost will vanish.

Mrmccormo

The way the world works right here.

Its because MS knew that people wouldnt know any better. They would just want a 360 sooo bad that they would have to pay for online if they demanded it.

People keep blaming the decline of the video gaming industry on all sorts of things. Blame little kids. Little kids will convince their parents to pay anything for what they want, no matter how absurd it it.

Little kids are the reason for all money grabbing decisions being made by gaming companies right now because little kids "gotta have it!"

I would be completely amazed if you didn't know about the online fee's when you purchased your 360.

Yes, xbox live costs are one of the things that kept me from buying one. Everybody know's it's a rip, we don't need these threads.

[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

They charge because people continue to pay. If they stopped paying, MS would rescind the charge. My Live ran out in Dec and I don't plan on renewing it any time soon.dommeus

What what do you mean your not renewing , your forced to :roll: /thread

Well if I want to play Xbox 360 games online then I have no choice but to pay, so I am being forced aren't I?

Because the cost would increase if people only payed for the extra live services like FB etc. most people want to play online, and will happily pay for the ability to do so within the xbox environment. If you don't want to, fine, go do something else.

Well, they charge because M$ saw ppl are willing to pay for it. If ppl didn't pay for it then Microsoft wouldn't charge for Xbox Live. Miroku32

you say that so easily but 13 million people are willing to pay for it, so theres no way they will stop charging for xbox live if one person stopped buying gold

[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

[QUOTE="RECON64bit"]

Well if I want to play Xbox 360 games online then I have no choice but to pay, so I am being forced aren't I?

RECON64bit

Well you should have done some research then, it clearly says on the xbox that xbox live is required to play multiplayer. The information about the costs of xbox live are readily available. Oh wait let me guess your the the type of peson that buys expensive products without any research and now it's MS fault becuase they tricked you right.

I already knew Xbox Live wasn't free. But I thought the price was justified by it's features. Now, that I have used Xbox Live it isn't much better than PSN in terms of just playing games online, which is all I want to do.

Well I guess I'll just stick to single players games after my Live runs up, since I got the Xbox at first for games like Mass Effect.

usually if theres a subscription to a service, its because there is lots going on in the back grounds, which there is. MS didnt trick anyone, MS made consoles online gaming what it is today, it probably wouldnt of gotten this far if it was free, and arcade section would be alot worse off, and who knows if there would even be any indie games.

You are being charged because you insist on owning a 360. Switch to PC or PS3 and the cost will vanish.

Mrmccormo

Aaaaaaaaaand this guy tells the truth.

You are being charged because you insist on owning a 360. Switch to PC or PS3 and the cost will vanish.

Mrmccormo

No one's forcing you to pay. It was your decisions to buy a 360 and play online. Either get another system or stop playing online.

instead of giving Microsoft $60+ to play mostly peer to peer online games....you can use that money on games from services like Gamefly ($8.99) or OnLive ($9.99). You would get games to play as long as you like....which you would be able to play for free online on a PS3 or PC.

if you have the money, Gaming PC + PS3 is a great combination.

if you don't want to/can't build a Gaming PC...imo... PS3 + OnLive is a great cheap combination.

of course if it is possible for you to own all the systems, even better...but most can't.

"Why am I", or "Why do ____ do this", or "Why does ____ have that" people who make these threads almost always know the answer and made the thread purely to create a buzz.

If you hate paying, buy any another system, because they all have online without a price.

It is for this reason that I refuse to buy a 360. I'm not going to buy games with features locked away nor will I pay $60 a month for basic online multiplayer.

You should have known about being charged online before you bought the product. I blame consumer ignorance.DragonfireXZ95

The 360 has become bad for gaming. Yep I said it. I also own one but I refuse to pay for Live Gold and I refuse to buy their casual Kinect system.

Just stop supporting the company and stop buying games for the 360 and switch to the PC or PS3 for playing the same games.

Bigboi500

Just switch over to PC. STEEEEAM.

It is for this reason that I refuse to buy a 360. I'm not going to buy games with features locked away nor will I pay $60 a month for basic online multiplayer.

windsquid9000

I really do not understand why I am being charged to play video games online. I understand Xbox Live has other features that we have to pay for but, I have no use for ESPN or facebook on Xbox 360. The only thing I want to do is play online, I couldn't care less about these extra feautures or Xbox live parties. Why can't online be free except foreverything else like Parties, ESPN and all the other useless garbage. I see no justification for raising the price either.

I've already invested a lot in the Xbox so I'm not gonna sell it, but I definately won't be getting their next console if they continue with this practice.

What is Microsoft's justification for charging me to play video games online?

Also this is on system wars because i'm pretty sure a post like this on Xbox forums would get me reported, and/or banned.

RECON64bit

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Because MS said so.soulitane

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Just switch over to PC. STEEEEAM.

ArchonOver

[QUOTE="RECON64bit"]

I really do not understand why I am being charged to play video games online. I understand Xbox Live has other features that we have to pay for but, I have no use for ESPN or facebook on Xbox 360. The only thing I want to do is play online, I couldn't care less about these extra feautures or Xbox live parties. Why can't online be free except foreverything else like Parties, ESPN and all the other useless garbage. I see no justification for raising the price either.

I've already invested a lot in the Xbox so I'm not gonna sell it, but I definately won't be getting their next console if they continue with this practice.

What is Microsoft's justification for charging me to play video games online?

Also this is on system wars because i'm pretty sure a post like this on Xbox forums would get me reported, and/or banned.

blackace

You're the only person to actually give me auseful answer.Most are too busy defending their little system and agenda to actually give me informed answers.

How about you people reply without insulting one's intelligence.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Because MS said so.blackace

Didn't Sony report losing millions of dollars on PSN? I'd certainly hope they'd start charging, so they make money.

one thought just came to my head there.....why is xbox live always being brought up but pc games such as wow also make you pay monthly fees to play?

one thought just came to my head there.....why is xbox live always being brought up but pc games such as wow also make you pay monthly fees to play?

mirriorman

Everybody who wants to play their games online with the 360 must pay for it. PC people who want to play just one game is a whole different story. You don't have to pay for WoW to play all of your games online.

One is optional for a single game, one is to play all of your online-enabled games...online.

[QUOTE="mirriorman"]

one thought just came to my head there.....why is xbox live always being brought up but pc games such as wow also make you pay monthly fees to play?

Mrmccormo

plus i'd say there are alot of wow players on this site tbh....

I really do not understand why I am being charged to play video games online.

RECON64bit

There isn't any magical answer, it's just a simple fact.

I'm pretty sure Sony is gonna charge online next gen. PSN hasn't been profitable for Sony and they are hoping to actually make a profit with PSN this year. Maybe by selling more PSN Plus subscriptions. LOL.

get a ps3 then the next time a your system or game updates you will have plenty of time to contemplate why you were paying a fee.

maybe it's a rip off but for real it always seemed to me that ms charged me money while sony charged me time.

i can make more money but i can't make more time so in this case i can deal with getting ripped off.

Why do I have to pay to watch netflix too?

Heck I haven't been on for atleast a month now. Should get a refund.