when will 360 show graphics like Uncharted 2/Killzone2?

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#101 lundy86_4
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360 has better graphical games than MGS4, and Gears 2 is comparable to Uncharted 2

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Than MGS4, I absolutely agree, but comparable to UC2 is solely gonna come down to opinion. You can't just state it as fact.

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#102 MajorGamer531
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[QUOTE="themerlin"]

Gears Of War 1-2 and Mass Effect look as good as U2 and Killzone 2

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dont kid yourself.

agreed

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#103 themerlin
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When the PS3 has superior multiplats then i will accept it as the more powerfull console U2 and KZ2 are two games with graphics engines specifically for the PS3 no Xbox 360 exclusive has that.

The original Xbox had better multiplats than the PS2 the PS3 should have that over the Xbox if it is more powerfull since multiplats make up the majority of games anyway. So imo the 360 has the better looking games overall.

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#104 mayceV
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="BodyElite"]

360 has better graphical games than MGS4, and Gears 2 is comparable to Uncharted 2

Than MGS4, I absolutely agree, but comparable to UC2 is solely gonna come down to opinion. You can't just state it as fact.

you know, I haven't played gear in such a long time that when i saw the pics on this thread I was like WOW is that gears 2????? (also I never played it in anything over 480p) I never really noticed the graphics of gears of war soley because the game had nearly no down time (unless it was the beginning of the level or in stretches of running) i wish my launch 360 didn't die. oh well gives me an excuse to buy one with an HDMI port :)
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#105 BodyElite
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[QUOTE="BodyElite"]

360 has better graphical games than MGS4, and Gears 2 is comparable to Uncharted 2

lundy86_4

Than MGS4, I absolutely agree, but comparable to UC2 is solely gonna come down to opinion. You can't just state it as fact.

I said its comparable, i didnt say that it was better. Im playing U2 right now and the graphics are amazing. Its more artistic than anything, especially the landscape and backgrounds

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#106 themerlin
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I agree that Gears Of War 2 is comparable too Uncharted 2. There are some breathtaking visuals in he undeground caverns of Gears 2. MGS4 looks pretty mediocre though, it doesn`t even look as good as Gears 1.

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#107 MajorGamer531
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When the PS3 has superior multiplats then i will accept it as the more powerfull console U2 and KZ2 are two games with graphics engines specifically for the PS3 no Xbox 360 exclusive has that.

The original Xbox had better multiplats than the PS2 the PS3 should have that over the Xbox if it is more powerfull since multiplats make up the majority of games anyway. So imo the 360 has the better looking games overall.

themerlin

Multiplat's are ported. PS3's hardware is plain superior. If a game is made on each platform that max's the console's ability, PS3 will look better.

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#108 themerlin
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[QUOTE="themerlin"]

When the PS3 has superior multiplats then i will accept it as the more powerfull console U2 and KZ2 are two games with graphics engines specifically for the PS3 no Xbox 360 exclusive has that.

The original Xbox had better multiplats than the PS2 the PS3 should have that over the Xbox if it is more powerfull since multiplats make up the majority of games anyway. So imo the 360 has the better looking games overall.

MajorGamer531

Multiplat's are ported. PS3's hardware is plain superior. If a game is made on each platform that max's the console's ability, PS3 will look better.

I guess we will see when FFXIII is released.
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#109 nmaharg
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RE5 is very comparable to both UC2 and KZ2. So is lost planet 2.
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#110 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="themerlin"]

When the PS3 has superior multiplats then i will accept it as the more powerfull console U2 and KZ2 are two games with graphics engines specifically for the PS3 no Xbox 360 exclusive has that.

The original Xbox had better multiplats than the PS2 the PS3 should have that over the Xbox if it is more powerfull since multiplats make up the majority of games anyway. So imo the 360 has the better looking games overall.

MajorGamer531

Multiplat's are ported. PS3's hardware is plain superior. If a game is made on each platform that max's the console's ability, PS3 will look better.

PS2 games were ported to xbox didn't stop xbox games from looking btter. Old excuse.

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#111 themerlin
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RE5 is very comparable to both UC2 and KZ2. So is lost planet 2. nmaharg
RE5 character models are awesome and LP2 is looking awesome. Cows are delusional i mean come on they think U2 looks better than crysis for gods sake.
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#112 iKINGBOBi
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Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.

themerlin

Killzone 2 looks miles ahead of Gears 2, and UC2 looks a lot better than Killzone 2. 360 has a lot of catching up to do, but it probably wont since PS3 is the more powerful machine when used efficiently.

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#113 RedruM_I
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Yes it confirms it.
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#114 iKINGBOBi
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RE5 is very comparable to both UC2 and KZ2. So is lost planet 2. nmaharg

Not a chance in hell bro, look at the games on a good HDTV and not on video streams. UC2 is on another level

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#115 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="themerlin"]

Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.

iKINGBOBi

Killzone 2 looks miles ahead of Gears 2, and UC2 looks a lot better than Killzone 2. 360 has a lot of catching up to do, but it probably wont since PS3 is the more powerful machine when used efficiently.

Not true at all. Nothing on either system looks miles in head of anything. They are all very close and all suffer from the same issues, low res, garbage textures, 30 fps. I give KZ2 the edge simply because that game has so much going on.
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#116 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]RE5 is very comparable to both UC2 and KZ2. So is lost planet 2. iKINGBOBi

Not a chance in hell bro, look at the games on a good HDTV and not on video streams. UC2 is on another level

I've played all of these games. Using the same 1920x1200 display.
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#117 iKINGBOBi
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]RE5 is very comparable to both UC2 and KZ2. So is lost planet 2. nmaharg

Not a chance in hell bro, look at the games on a good HDTV and not on video streams. UC2 is on another level

I've played all of these games. Using the same 1920x1200 display.

What brand? I've got a Pioneer Kuro Plasma. A good brand can make all the difference. I played UC2 on my Kuro and my mind was blown, then I played it at my friends house on his low end Toshiba LCD and it didn't look the same. Night and Day difference to be honest

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#119 RickLemieux
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[QUOTE="MajorGamer531"]

[QUOTE="themerlin"]

When the PS3 has superior multiplats then i will accept it as the more powerfull console U2 and KZ2 are two games with graphics engines specifically for the PS3 no Xbox 360 exclusive has that.

The original Xbox had better multiplats than the PS2 the PS3 should have that over the Xbox if it is more powerfull since multiplats make up the majority of games anyway. So imo the 360 has the better looking games overall.

nmaharg

Multiplat's are ported. PS3's hardware is plain superior. If a game is made on each platform that max's the console's ability, PS3 will look better.

PS2 games were ported to xbox didn't stop xbox games from looking btter. Old excuse.

I've always wondered that myself. I used to get most multiplatform games on my Xbox because they looked better, now I get most multiplatform games on my 360 because most of the time they look better. Why doesn't the PS3 have better multiplatform games? I hate the "well it's a port" excuse, because they were ports from PS2 to Xbox and always looked better on Xbox. I'm guessing that the PS3 and 360 are much closer in power than the PS2 and Xbox were.

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#120 Riverwolf007
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my guess is never but really so what, the 360 is the go to guy for multiplats, online and downloadable content so at least right now it is more than holding it's own and deserving of the space it takes up on my a/v rack

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#121 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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KZ2 looks a bit better than Gears 2, but nothing on 360 comes close to the beauty and technical powerhouse that is Uncharted 2. I don't really think it needs to though, graphics aren't everything. The PS2 was inferior to the Xbox graphically and was SO much more successful.

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#122 MajorGamer531
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="MajorGamer531"]

Multiplat's are ported. PS3's hardware is plain superior. If a game is made on each platform that max's the console's ability, PS3 will look better.

RickLemieux

PS2 games were ported to xbox didn't stop xbox games from looking btter. Old excuse.

I've always wondered that myself. I used to get most multiplatform games on my Xbox because they looked better, now I get most multiplatform games on my 360 because most of the time they look better. Why doesn't the PS3 have better multiplatform games? I hate the "well it's a port" excuse, because they were ports from PS2 to Xbox and always looked better on Xbox. I'm guessing that the PS3 and 360 are much closer in power than the PS2 and Xbox were.

This gen the architectures between the systems is so different games will play to the advantages of one system over another. It is easier to develop for the 360 so multiplatformers design for the 360 and than port to ps3.

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#123 gamecubepad
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It's interesting when people say that a console coming out a year earlier should have more power than a console that released a year later.

The PS3 is only nominally more powerful than the 360. It's has 2 games that just released this year that are regarded as being better concerning gfxthan anything on 360, although mostly because of cutscenes.

When Crysis 2 and Rage release will all this finally end? One can only hope...

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#124 siddhu33
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This doesn't look too bad...........

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#126 MajorGamer531
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]RE5 is very comparable to both UC2 and KZ2. So is lost planet 2. nmaharg

Not a chance in hell bro, look at the games on a good HDTV and not on video streams. UC2 is on another level

I've played all of these games. Using the same 1920x1200 display.

The games are optimized for 1920 by 1080. Should be played at 1080.

RE5's did not put a lot into the little details, the character models were really good, but the general environment is not on the same level.

KZ2 and GeoW2 also slacked on some of the little details, but it was hard to notice because they are low-lighting games so your eyes were drawn to the areas where the most detail was spent.

Uncharted 2 took care of the little details. Nothing was just lazily thrown on the screen, everything had some thought put into it. And the result is a game that is visually stunning no matter where on your screen you are looking.

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#127 Hahadouken
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Gears Of War 1-2 and Mass Effect look as good as U2 and Killzone 2

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No, they don't. Not even close. You won't even find a BioWare employee saying ME looks as good as U2 or KZ2.
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#128 Wings_008
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Gears Of War 1-2 and Mass Effect look as good as U2 and Killzone 2

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looks like Alan Wake will join the club
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#129 h575309
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I think Assassins Creed 1 and 2 are amazing looking games and on par with the ones you listed. And its multiplat.

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#130 moose_knuckler
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Gears 2 isn't far behind K2 anyway, but Alan Wake looks pretty good. Will it look better than Uncharted 2? Seems a bit too early to tell since we've been limited to gameplay footage at night and only day screens. Already seems ballpark though
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#131 Wasdie  Moderator
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I think that Gears of War 2 was close to Killzone 2 but has nothing on Uncharted/Uncharted 2.

Just my personal opinion.

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#132 II_Seraphim_II
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While I do believe that UC2 is the best looking game out on consoles, I don't think its in a league of its own. Games like Gears of War 2 are comparable to UC2. Sure UC2 looks better, but that doesn't mean Gears2 isnt in the same league.
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#133 jonesy1911
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Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.

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Gears 2 looks good but uncharted 2 good? nope!!
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#134 ExplosiveChorro
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Meh, I prefer art over ugly realism. I'm definitely not speaking about U2, but KZ2? Just ew.

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Pretty much, art style of KZ2 is pretty barf, but technically its crazy good for consoles.
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#135 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.

themerlin
thats a lie. its getting under rated by people who havent played uncharted 2.
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#136 tutt3r
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unfortunatley MS doesnt have a strong 1st party support, unlike the PS3 which still has the devs from ps2 and ps1. so the lack of strong 1st party games is evident, where devs work soley for that counsile. look at GeoW and Halo series which are made only for the xbox and they are great games. however as long as MS still has that great 3rd party support they have been getting i don't think it's necissary for the xbox to have game that look like U2 or KZ2, b/c really imo TF2 borderlands and POP look better than the grimey realistic games b/c the art is unqiue. Also i don't mind l4d graphics which are bit dated but still is a good game. graphics never ensure a quality game. however U2 got awesome reviews and is a strong 96 on metacritic :) so thats always good to see

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#137 ogvampire
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i dont think the ps3 is more powerful than the 360... im pretty sure the 360 can handle a game like UC2 or KZ2

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#138 GreyFoXX4
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Popped in and read a bunch of excuses on the 1st pagewhy MS hasn't spent money on making its own engine for its 1st party or 2nd party games:roll:. All the while remembering $50million being put up for gta4 dlc.

Now backing out of thread slowly.

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#139 Floppy_Jim
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360 has been out a year longer than PS3 but PS3 is way ahead of them in graphics when it comes to exlusives. Uncharted 2 (and 1 lol) and Killzone 2, MGS4 are way superior in the graphics department. Gears 2 shows very little improvements and Halo ODST is laughable. Doesn't this confirm that developers are holding back on multiplatform games when it comes to the PS3?

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There are already 360 games look as good or better than MGS4. But colour me surprised if we see something better looking than Uncharted 2.
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#140 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] I've played all of these games. Using the same 1920x1200 display.RadecSupreme

What brand? I've got a Pioneer Kuro Plasma. A good brand can make all the difference. I played UC2 on my Kuro and my mind was blown, then I played it at my friends house on his low end Toshiba LCD and it didn't look the same. Night and Day difference to be honest

Why argue with him? He is obviously a lemming and wont admit it.

Really? If anything I would be a hermit since I game on my PC far more than either console. But whatever.
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#141 donalbane
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I think Uncharted 2 was so nice looking because of Naughty Dog's development, not because Sony made such a powerful box. Let's give credit to the developers, not the hardware. Really, the 360 and the PS3 are quite similar in terms of their technology. 360 beats the PS3 in some catagories, and the PS3 beats the 360 in some catagories, but really, they're about the same overall. So yeah, let's give the developers some credit here, people. You should be praising Naughty Dog, not Sony. The hardware differences between the 2 HD consoles are arbitrary, ultimately.
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#142 donalbane
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="themerlin"]

Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.

thats a lie. its getting under rated by people who havent played uncharted 2.

And all of the people who have played Crysis can't stop face palming themselves in both instances.
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#143 nZiFFLe
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I thought Gears 2 looked almost as good as those games.

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#144 winner-ps3
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Gears Of War 1-2 and Mass Effect look as good as U2 and Killzone 2

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ha
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Oh dear another pixel war

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#146 12345678ew
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Never, 360 got to weak hardware sorry lemmingz

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Care to elaborate?

a 2 core processor without virtualization vs a 8 core with 4 thread virtualization equal graphics cards unified ram vs non unified resulting in lazy development without cache dumps since it's not needed to save ram, but would save framerates so they could get more out of the cpu/gpu cheap solders everywhere resulting in failures nonscaling voltage for all it's hardware a low quality power converter resulting in an unstable voltage (causing e74) a drive without a fixed reader or brushless spinner (resulting in all those ugly scratches when you move it) low speed hard drives with flipped sata ports resulting in you not being able to use better ones (resulting in slow reads/loads and lower framerates)
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HAHAHAHAHA Seriously??? Wow.
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#149 taj7575
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I thought Gears 2 looked almost as good as those games.

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Gears 2 suffers the same problems as KZ2. Looks nice, but dirty, boring colors.

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#150 carlisledavid79
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Uncharted 2 really is the best looking game I've played on a console this generation. Simply amazing