when will 360 show graphics like Uncharted 2/Killzone2?

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#1 neomatrix909
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360 has been out a year longer than PS3 but PS3 is way ahead of them in graphics when it comes to exlusives. Uncharted 2 (and 1 lol) and Killzone 2, MGS4 are way superior in the graphics department. Gears 2 shows very little improvements and Halo ODST is laughable. Doesn't this confirm that developers are holding back on multiplatform games when it comes to the PS3?

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#2 RadecSupreme
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Never, I just think it will not get enough dedication unless crysis 2 ends up doing good on it. But since all we have seen are tech demos we cant really say.

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#3 clyde46
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Something you fail to notice, U2, KZ2, MGS4 are all first party games. So they will get more support than devs making multiplat games.

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Could be that it has never had the time, money, and engine built ground up for it. But it wont have to when Crysis2 is out.

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#5 Manticore7
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Theres a game out called gears of war

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#6 themerlin
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Gears Of War 1-2 and Mass Effect look as good as U2 and Killzone 2

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#7 navyguy21
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When there is a game in the genre that uses a custom engine. So far, lionhead, Rare, and other 1st parties have been using old engines. I think Reach and Alan Wake are the first to use custom engines.
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#8 themerlin
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Halo 3 and ODST look good to me definately not laughable.

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#9 ZoomZoom2490
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Gears Of War 1-2 and Mass Effect look as good as U2 and Killzone 2

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dont kid yourself.
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#10 ZoomZoom2490
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Halo 3 and ODST look good to me definately not laughable.

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ummm what?
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#11 themerlin
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Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.

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#12 Renzokucant
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360 has been out a year longer than PS3 but PS3 is way ahead of them in graphics when it comes to exlusives. Uncharted 2 (and 1 lol) and Killzone 2, MGS4 are way superior in the graphics department. Gears 2 shows very little improvements and Halo ODST is laughable. Doesn't this confirm that developers are holding back on multiplatform games when it comes to the PS3?

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in a word, never.
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#13 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="neomatrix909"]

360 has been out a year longer than PS3 but PS3 is way ahead of them in graphics when it comes to exlusives. Uncharted 2 (and 1 lol) and Killzone 2, MGS4 are way superior in the graphics department. Gears 2 shows very little improvements and Halo ODST is laughable. Doesn't this confirm that developers are holding back on multiplatform games when it comes to the PS3?

Renzokucant

in a word, never.

Another word....Wrong

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#15 vaderhater
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Never, 360 got to weak hardware sorry lemmingz

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#16 washd123
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MGS4 is absolutly atrocious in the graphics department bringing it up in a graphics debate is pathetic really.

and uncharted is topped by batman AA

and uncharted 2 looks to be bested by alan wake and/or just cause

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#17 treedoor
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I spent all last gen wondering when the PS2 would have graphics like the Xbox.

Point being I completely dismissed a console due to it's inferior processing power.

Sarcasm aside this thread is stupid.

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#18 RadecSupreme
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I spent all last gen wondering when the PS2 would have graphics like the Xbox.

Point being I completely dismissed a console due to it's inferior processing power.

Sarcasm aside this thread is stupid.

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#19 Funconsole
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Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.

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I know right? People crap their pants talking about UC2 and KZ2 graphics. What they forget is that most Xbox 360 exclusives haven't used a new engine or custom built. Only reach and alan wake are said to be using custom engines.
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#20 BioShockOwnz
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Meh, I prefer art over ugly realism. I'm definitely not speaking about U2, but KZ2? Just ew.

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#21 mitu123
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When more devs take the 360 seriously, maybe Halo Reach, future games, etc.

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#22 PSdual_wielder
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Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.

themerlin

Coming from someone who has played gears of war 2, no they're not overrated.

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One of the biggest limiting factors is DVD. Blue Ray's extra size means developers can put extra in it. Sure multi DVD would work, but muti disk games have for the most part fallen out of favor and are shunned. Hard drive loaded games (game is mostly on hard drive) are not widely accepted, and would alienate the fools who bought the $200 360.

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#24 neomatrix909
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MGS4 is absolutly atrocious in the graphics department bringing it up in a graphics debate is pathetic really.

and uncharted is topped by batman AA

and uncharted 2 looks to be bested by alan wake and/or just cause

washd123
yeah but 360 has been out way longer, what gives? Alan Wake has a chance to come close but then PS3 will top whatever with Heavy Rain, God of War, and sequels to Killzone, Uncharted, Resistance. Gears of War 2 I've played but wasn't wowed by it after playing Gears 1, it was an improvement but nothing topping PS3.
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#25 Syaz1
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2 me, they will, in 2010, with alan wake. with the lighting, physics effect, details and many more, it rivals the best looking ps3 exclusives, though heavy rain looks set 2 b even better looking than those 2 ps3 exclusives u mentioned. gow 3 dont look very impressive 2 b honest.

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#26 neomatrix909
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it looks like PS3 will continue to top itself non stop when releasing exclusive games. Sequels to Killzone, Uncharted, and Resistance will top previous games plus Heavy Rain and God of War. I really can't see 360 exclusives topping themselves. Rumor has it Gears 3 won't make it to 360. Halo 4 I dont see, Halo Reach most likely will use the same game engine. So i guess 360 has reached its peak. It could continue releasing AAA games but graphically nothing will change, or PS3 will top it in any genre. ex: Forza 3 looks amazing but PS3 will top it with GT5

sucks for you exclusive 360 fans

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lol, Cows will never allow a 360 game to look better, even if it looks as good, or close...take GEARS 2 for example...........

PIC01011 by you.PIC01010 by you.PIC01008 by you.PIC01018 by you.PIC01017 by you.

And just for the lulzzzzzz

owned010 by you.

:lol:

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#28 neomatrix909
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2 me, they will, in 2010, with alan wake. with the lighting, physics effect, details and many more, it rivals the best looking ps3 exclusives, though heavy rain looks set 2 b even better looking than those 2 ps3 exclusives u mentioned. gow 3 dont look very impressive 2 b honest.

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GOW 3 looks amazing the best in its genre. Nothing in the 360 exclusive library will top it since Devil May Cry and Bayonetta is multiplatform
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#29 mitu123
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it looks like PS3 will continue to top itself non stop when releasing exclusive games. Sequels to Killzone, Uncharted, and Resistance will top previous games plus Heavy Rain and God of War. I really can't see 360 exclusives topping themselves. Rumor has it Gears 3 won't make it to 360. Halo 4 I dont see, Halo Reach most likely will use the same game engine. So i guess 360 has reached its peak. It could continue releasing AAA games but graphically nothing will change, or PS3 will top it in any genre. ex: Forza 3 looks amazing but PS3 will top it with GT5

sucks for you exclusive 360 fans

neomatrix909

Halo Reach has been confirmed to use a new engine since Bungie said they couldn't do much more with the Halo 3 engine, they couldn't get 720p on it! I bet Halo Reach will look nice, but above PS3 exclusives is another story.

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#30 Vadamee
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When will PS3 get a game that is as aesthetically pleasing as whats found on 360? The mass majority of PS3 graphics "power houses" look monotonous and gray. To answer your question, just look at the multi-platform games. Some of them (RE5, BC2, AC2, C2) look just as good, and in some cases, better than those games you mentioned. So in light of those examples I've given, I don't think one can accurately detest the 360's abilities to pull off some stunning visuals!
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#31 neomatrix909
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lol, Cows will never allow a 360 game to look better, even if it looks as good, or close...take GEARS 2 for example...........

PIC01011 by you.PIC01010 by you.PIC01008 by you.PIC01018 by you.PIC01017 by you.

And just for the lulzzzzzz

owned010 by you.

:lol:

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WOW am I looking at Gears 1.5? Minus the yellow immulsion from Gears 1 of course. NEXT

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lol, Cows will never allow a 360 game to look better, even if it looks as good, or close...take GEARS 2 for example...........

PIC01011 by you.PIC01010 by you.PIC01008 by you.PIC01018 by you.PIC01017 by you.

And just for the lulzzzzzz

owned010 by you.

:lol:

navyguy21

Not just cows, everyone except lemmings. Manticores even agreed to let Killzone 2 as their graphics king. Only lemmings say Gears 2 is as good.

I lol'ed at the pic :lol:

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#33 InfinityMugen
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The new Xbox will be burdened with that task when it launches in 2012.

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#34 washd123
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One of the biggest limiting factors is DVD. Blue Ray's extra size means developers can put extra in it. Sure multi DVD would work, but muti disk games have for the most part fallen out of favor and are shunned. Hard drive loaded games (game is mostly on hard drive) are not widely accepted, and would alienate the fools who bought the $200 360.

dercoo

no just no.

disk space is not related to graphics. unless you make some **** tech like megatexture.

ex. crysis is on a dvd

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One of the biggest limiting factors is DVD. Blue Ray's extra size means developers can put extra in it. Sure multi DVD would work, but muti disk games have for the most part fallen out of favor and are shunned. Hard drive loaded games (game is mostly on hard drive) are not widely accepted, and would alienate the fools who bought the $200 360.

dercoo

Its a storage medium! Also the repeated data and uncompressed audio make for alot of space. The reason for the repeated data coupled with sometimes mandatory installs is a work around for the slow read speeds the BR player has in the PS3. Do you not know your own hardware man?

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

lol, Cows will never allow a 360 game to look better, even if it looks as good, or close...take GEARS 2 for example...........

And just for the lulzzzzzz

:lol:

RadecSupreme

Not just cows, everyone except lemmings. Manticores even agreed to let Killzone 2 as their graphics king. Only lemmings say Gears 2 is as good.

I lol'ed at the pic :lol:

no pretty much just cows did it, then again cows claim every ps3 game is graphics king, the ps3 is christ, and has been outselling the 360 since launch...

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#37 neomatrix909
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

One of the biggest limiting factors is DVD. Blue Ray's extra size means developers can put extra in it. Sure multi DVD would work, but muti disk games have for the most part fallen out of favor and are shunned. Hard drive loaded games (game is mostly on hard drive) are not widely accepted, and would alienate the fools who bought the $200 360.

washd123

no just no.

disk space is not related to graphics. unless you make some **** tech like megatexture.

ex. crysis is on a dvd

Yes and the PC the Crysis dvd is playing on is probably 3x's as powerful as the 360 and PS3 lol.
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#38 Tauu
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If 360 games pushed graphics more there'd be more RRoD issues.

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

lol, Cows will never allow a 360 game to look better, even if it looks as good, or close...take GEARS 2 for example...........

And just for the lulzzzzzz

:lol:

RadecSupreme

Not just cows, everyone except lemmings. Manticores even agreed to let Killzone 2 as their graphics king. Only lemmings say Gears 2 is as good.

I lol'ed at the pic :lol:

I agree, Killzone 2 (well now uncharted 2) was graphics king, i never said it wasnt, but gears 2 is on that level, and has superior textures than killzone 2. Killzone 2 has MUCH better lighting, and post processing effects. But graphically, these two consoles are pretty equal, only difference comes down to dev talent, budget, and time.

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#40 RadecSupreme
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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

lol, Cows will never allow a 360 game to look better, even if it looks as good, or close...take GEARS 2 for example...........

And just for the lulzzzzzz

:lol:

navyguy21

Not just cows, everyone except lemmings. Manticores even agreed to let Killzone 2 as their graphics king. Only lemmings say Gears 2 is as good.

I lol'ed at the pic :lol:

I agree, Killzone 2 (well now uncharted 2) was graphics king, i never said it wasnt, but gears 2 is on that level, and has superior textures than killzone 2. Killzone 2 has MUCH better lighting, and post processing effects. But graphically, these two consoles are pretty equal, only difference comes down to dev talent, budget, and time.

That is exactly the 360 would need a game with more dedication and support if its to have a game at the level of Uncharted 2.

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#41 vaderhater
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If 360 games pushed graphics more there'd be more RRoD issues.

Tauu

Im sorry but there just has to be alot of guys who have pot shot accounts like this :roll: here.

Im actually starting to see alot of one shot wonders popping in and out of threads nowdays with about the same types of messages.:|

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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

One of the biggest limiting factors is DVD. Blue Ray's extra size means developers can put extra in it. Sure multi DVD would work, but muti disk games have for the most part fallen out of favor and are shunned. Hard drive loaded games (game is mostly on hard drive) are not widely accepted, and would alienate the fools who bought the $200 360.

washd123

no just no.

disk space is not related to graphics. unless you make some **** tech like megatexture.

ex. crysis is on a dvd

It is on the pc hard drive.

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#43 washd123
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[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

One of the biggest limiting factors is DVD. Blue Ray's extra size means developers can put extra in it. Sure multi DVD would work, but muti disk games have for the most part fallen out of favor and are shunned. Hard drive loaded games (game is mostly on hard drive) are not widely accepted, and would alienate the fools who bought the $200 360.

dercoo

no just no.

disk space is not related to graphics. unless you make some **** tech like megatexture.

ex. crysis is on a dvd

It is on the pc hard drive.

its 6gb uncompressed on a hardrive. which is actually including more assests since it has to include all the texture at every setting. try again.

graphics and disk space are not directly related.

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I really dont think it "has" to.

Let's face it: graphics aren't going to change gameplay too much this generation. The PS3's graphics are not so much better that the 360's is vastly inferior.

And it's crystal clear that the companies are now having a race towards motion controls as the "next big thing" to change console gaming.

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#45 neomatrix909
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I really dont think it "has" to.

Let's face it: graphics aren't going to change gameplay too much this generation. The PS3's graphics are not so much better that the 360's is vastly inferior.

And it's crystal clear that the companies are now having a race towards motion controls as the "next big thing" to change console gaming.

Alpha-Male22

and let it be known 360 will be the first to fail. Bring on better graphics I say

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#46 Watts2590
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After playin Metal Gear Solid i played Gears 2 and Gears 2 doesnt even come close!!!

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#47 navyguy21
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After playin Metal Gear Solid i played Gears 2 and Gears 2 doesnt even come close!!!

Watts2590
Wow, i didnt really like MGS4's graphics :( The textures were horrible, but the cinematics are amazing
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#48 Alpha-Male22
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[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"]

I really dont think it "has" to.

Let's face it: graphics aren't going to change gameplay too much this generation. The PS3's graphics are not so much better that the 360's is vastly inferior.

And it's crystal clear that the companies are now having a race towards motion controls as the "next big thing" to change console gaming.

neomatrix909

and let it be known 360 will be the first to fail. Bring on better graphics I say



Fail what? We see better graphics on the PS3. That's fantastic. How does this make the 360 fail?

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#49 Watts2590
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[QUOTE="Watts2590"]

After playin Metal Gear Solid i played Gears 2 and Gears 2 doesnt even come close!!!

navyguy21
Wow, i didnt really like MGS4's graphics :( The textures were horrible, but the cinematics are amazing

yea both when i played gears i thought it looked cartoony and there are many games that look alot better!
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#50 DealRogers
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Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.

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I agree with you. Even if I'm a PS3 fan I admit that this board has been filling with "PS3 best graphics" topics while the other consoles and PC show awesome graphics too.