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[QUOTE="Watts2590"]Wow, i didnt really like MGS4's graphics :( The textures were horrible, but the cinematics are amazing Oh. I didn't like gears 2's art style, but I still appreciate its graphics. Just can't get into the style.After playin Metal Gear Solid i played Gears 2 and Gears 2 doesnt even come close!!!
navyguy21
[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Watts2590"]Wow, i didnt really like MGS4's graphics :( The textures were horrible, but the cinematics are amazing Oh. I didn't like gears 2's art style, but I still appreciate its graphics. Just can't get into the style. It was better than Gears 1 lol, at least it had color :P, and better lighting lol.After playin Metal Gear Solid i played Gears 2 and Gears 2 doesnt even come close!!!
SilverChimera
Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.
themerlin
gears 2 graphics are overrated, im sorry.
[QUOTE="themerlin"]I know right? People crap their pants talking about UC2 and KZ2 graphics. What they forget is that most Xbox 360 exclusives haven't used a new engine or custom built. Only reach and alan wake are said to be using custom engines.Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.
Funconsole
Ive played Gears 2, and it doesnt look even close to as good as KZ2 or UC2. My friend even admited that, and he's an xbot.
I didnt want to say this (and dont call me a PS3 fanboy either), but couldnt it be that the 360 cant make games look that good???
Never probably. And thats entirely MS' fault. For their reluctance to build up a strong first-party team and short sighted-ness. I think the 360 is capable of producing graphics as good as the top PS3 games but like i said, its probably never gonna happen.
they both have even graphics. depends on the developer and how they manage the software.
what i've noticed is 360 has better textures and antialiasing, but ps3 has better effects like lighting, particle effects, stuff like that (uncharted 2 has better textures, but thats in one case).
ps3 exclusives are looking better and better, but 360 has things up its sleeves like splinter cell conviction and alan wake.
I have owned all 3 current gen consoles, which I believe gives me a vlaid opinion. NOTHING else on consoles comes close to U2 and KZ2. U2 actually felt kind of weird playing at first because it looks so good, it was almost like I shouldn't be playing it. Hard to explain. Not every second is that amazing, but every other minute is. I thought Gears looked awesome, and Gears 2 was good, but not much of an upgrade and nothing that really excited me. I got a PS3 about a week after MGS4 was released. I was so amazed by the graphics and went and bought a new TV the following week.
FACT: SOME PS3 gamesare graphically superior toALL of the XBOX360 games.
Not saying 360 looks bad, but I'm sure it will never reach the level of PS3 exclusives.
I have owned all 3 current gen consoles, which I believe gives me a valid opinion. NOTHING else on consoles comes close to U2 and KZ2. U2 actually felt kind of weird playing at first because it looks so good, it was almost like I shouldn't be playing it. Hard to explain.
FACT: SOME PS3 games are graphically superior toALL of the XBOX360 games.
Not saying 360 looks bad, but I'm sure it will never reach the level of PS3 exclusives.
kc9292
I agree with this statement.
I have all five of those games and Gears 1-2 and Mass Effect don't look anywhere near as good as Uncharted 2... or Killzone 2, for that matter... UE3 runs and looks great on xbox, but the tech in U2 and KZ2 blows anything on 360 away... for now, anyway...Gears Of War 1-2 and Mass Effect look as good as U2 and Killzone 2
themerlin
[QUOTE="dercoo"]
One of the biggest limiting factors is DVD. Blue Ray's extra size means developers can put extra in it. Sure multi DVD would work, but muti disk games have for the most part fallen out of favor and are shunned. Hard drive loaded games (game is mostly on hard drive) are not widely accepted, and would alienate the fools who bought the $200 360.
washd123
no just no.
disk space is not related to graphics. unless you make some **** tech like megatexture.
ex. crysis is on a dvd
you do realize that the game crysis came compressed on the disk right? and when u offloaded it to ur HDD it became a bigger file right?[QUOTE="washd123"][QUOTE="dercoo"]
One of the biggest limiting factors is DVD. Blue Ray's extra size means developers can put extra in it. Sure multi DVD would work, but muti disk games have for the most part fallen out of favor and are shunned. Hard drive loaded games (game is mostly on hard drive) are not widely accepted, and would alienate the fools who bought the $200 360.
stereointegrity
no just no.
disk space is not related to graphics. unless you make some **** tech like megatexture.
ex. crysis is on a dvd
you do realize that the game crysis came compressed on the disk right? and when u offloaded it to ur HDD it became a bigger file right?its 6gb uncompressed with all the assets.
Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.
themerlin
thats why mgs4 beat out gears 2 for graphics of the year
and uncharted 2 leaves mgs4 in the dust...:roll:
face it ps3 has had the graphics king 3 years in a row(including 09) and the 360 hasnt surpassed gears of war2 yet
[QUOTE="themerlin"]
Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.
xxgunslingerxx
thats why mgs4 beat out gears 2 for graphics of the year
and uncharted 2 leaves mgs4 in the dust...:roll:
gears 2 left MGS4 in the dust graphically MGS4 is a low res mess.
and MGS4 beat out crysis for best graphics nuff said about the credibility
[QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"]
[QUOTE="themerlin"]
Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.
washd123
thats why mgs4 beat out gears 2 for graphics of the year
and uncharted 2 leaves mgs4 in the dust...:roll:
gears 2 left MGS4 in the dust graphically MGS4 is a low res mess.
and MGS4 beat out crysis for best graphics nuff said about the credibility
what??? MGS4 looks way better than gears 2.what??? MGS4 looks way better than gears 2.
gamerlifegrace
looks are your opinion.
i think dead space is the best looking game ever. the only way we can say this game has better graphics than another is to imply that theres a standard or a objective way of comparing them. since the only objective thing in visuals is the tech thats all we have to go on. and sorry but tech wise MGS4 is horrible. not even good.
I never did understan the people who think MGS4 has ugly graphics :? To me its only 2nd to Uncharted 2. Seriously it has some of the best graphics seen in a game.
You are giving answer to your own question lol. """360 has """"""""""""""been out a year longer than PS3"""""""""""""" but PS3 is way ahead of them in graphics"""" compare PS2 and xbox """why xbox has better grahics""""360 has been out a year longer than PS3 but PS3 is way ahead of them in graphics when it comes to exlusives. Uncharted 2 (and 1 lol) and Killzone 2, MGS4 are way superior in the graphics department. Gears 2 shows very little improvements and Halo ODST is laughable. Doesn't this confirm that developers are holding back on multiplatform games when it comes to the PS3?
neomatrix909
yeah, too sad MS 1st party is very weak and the 3rd party dun care enough to use the x360 fully............what an excuse??!!!Something you fail to notice, U2, KZ2, MGS4 are all first party games. So they will get more support than devs making multiplat games.
clyde46
I can't wait to shove Alan Wake & Halo: Reach in the fanboys faces when they launch next year..... Yeah the PS3 has graphics king title atm (talking consoles here Hermies, no need to post pics).... remember pre-Uncharted cows..... when the 360 had Gears of War....
This graphics thing is gonna go back and forth for as long as the consoles are being supported... don't you realize that? Or are you too big of fanboys, so as soon as the PS3 has the upper hand you claim "VICTORY", not realizing that there are another 2-3 rounds to go.
Oh well... I guess I'm the foolish one, expecting fanboys to use reason and logic.
I can't wait to shove Alan Wake & Halo: Reach in the fanboys faces when they launch next year..... Yeah the PS3 has graphics king title atm (talking consoles here Hermies, no need to post pics).... remember pre-Uncharted cows..... when the 360 had Gears of War....
This graphics thing is gonna go back and forth for as long as the consoles are being supported... don't you realize that? Or are you too big of fanboys, so as soon as the PS3 has the upper hand you claim "VICTORY", not realizing that there are another 2-3 rounds to go.
Oh well... I guess I'm the foolish one, expecting fanboys to use reason and logic.
whatisazerg
one cant expect to reason with you or else use logic considering you are somehow confirming Halo:Reach to be the next console graphics king, keep in mind we have seen nothing yet (specially gameplay vids) for Halo:Reach yet its been hyped by 360 fans as the next graphics king already..
But in here apparently only 'cows' hype exclusives as graphics king without seeing gameplay.. ppffff
With this i am sure Alan Wake will be visually great and look forward to it, but dont forget there are 3 other little titles coming out on PS3 which will surely challenge the likes of Alan Wake, ME2,Splinter cell & Halo:Reach (lets list it to make fans happy) and these are 100% PS3 exclusives such as GOW3, The Last Guardian & Heavy Rain..
not even listing GT5 cause apparently racing titles dont count in console graphics king related topics..
well bud, I have played Gears 3 and I will agree with you that it does look down right beautiful in some parts, but it's inconsistent. It's a good game, but you have to play a PS3 exclusive to know what every one is talking about. Take infamous for instance, it is open world and looks just as good as Gears 2 beautiful parts, but it does it consistantly and all the time, and it's open world too! That makes it more impressive. Uncharted 2 on the other hand is just mind blowing throughout. It'll make you damn. It's your opinion and I respect that.Im serious PS3 exclusives are being overrated graphically by people who haven`t even played Gears 2.
themerlin
This message should end this thread: Crysis 2 looks better than any ps3 game, and it works on 360, and it works well, possibly better looking than ps3 counterpart. cheack this out: http://kotaku.com/5339466/cryengine-3-360-vs-ps3
360 has better lighting, and better texture on the gun (during the tropical island part), and during the tunnel sequence, 360 owns.
left is ps3, and right is 360.....
Yeah...let's take your word for it. Crytek has'nt said anything of those differences you just said, and I can not spot those differences in those tech videos. We'll have to wait for some real game videos to come out to before we can say anything about it. Crysis 2 will probably look worse than those videos because they may need to use some of the resources else were. If the game is more a openworld, it can not have those graphics. And Crytec has said they have learned a lot developing on the PS3, and that will benefit the other platforms as well.This message should end this thread: Crysis 2 looks better than any ps3 game, and it works on 360, and it works well, possibly better looking than ps3 counterpart. cheack this out: http://kotaku.com/5339466/cryengine-3-360-vs-ps3
360 has better lighting, and better texture on the gun (during the tropical island part), and during the tunnel sequence, 360 owns.
left is ps3, and right is 360.....
Excedra
...weak hardware you say eh? you know those tech demos of crysis 2 look better than U2 and Kz2 right? and they look better on the 360 version. BFBC looks just as good as Kz2 and its on the 360. Lets wait for Alan Wake, Halo reach, Fable 3, gears 3 and a bit more into this gen. wait for a 360 game to have 20 million dolars and 3-4 years poured into it on a custom engine, Then look at it I can assure ou the hardware isn't too far behiend the ps3 unless you want tosay that UC2 is the limit of the Ps3.Never, 360 got to weak hardware sorry lemmingz
aroxx_ab
Gears 2 & Banjo N&B - me thinks you need to take a look see.
I know we haven't seen anything yet but me thinks MS & Bungie have something to prove so come late 2010, we shall see on that as well. :P
[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]...weak hardware you say eh? you know those tech demos of crysis 2 look better than U2 and Kz2 right? and they look better on the 360 version. BFBC looks just as good as Kz2 and its on the 360. Lets wait for Alan Wake, Halo reach, Fable 3, gears 3 and a bit more into this gen. wait for a 360 game to have 20 million dolars and 3-4 years poured into it on a custom engine, Then look at it I can assure ou the hardware isn't too far behiend the ps3 unless you want tosay that UC2 is the limit of the Ps3. lool, you judge by a tech demo??!!!, i would rather see a real application, i am sure any company could release a tech demo that can simulate semi real graphics, but who cares????Never, 360 got to weak hardware sorry lemmingz
mayceV
Halo reach, Fable 3, Gears 3 , you are very funny to mention games like 1.5-2 years away and we dun know absolutely nothing abt them except their names, till the moment x360 is behind in the graphics category since lat Feb.
no they dont. Uncharted2 and KZ2 blow any 360 game out of the water.Gears Of War 1-2 and Mass Effect look as good as U2 and Killzone 2
themerlin
Gears 2 & Banjo N&B - me thinks you need to take a look see.
I know we haven't seen anything yet but me thinks MS & Bungie have something to prove so come late 2010, we shall see on that as well. :P
SecretPolice
while both Geow2 & Banjo look great i still think that KZ2 & Uncharted2 are visually superior... KZ2 looks better than Geow2 and Ratchet&Clank: FTODis on par with Banjo, though ACIT looks even better than Banjo...
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]
Gears 2 & Banjo N&B - me thinks you need to take a look see.
I know we haven't seen anything yet but me thinks MS & Bungie have something to prove so come late 2010, we shall see on that as well. :P
Malta_1980
while both Geow2 & Banjo look great i still think that KZ2 & Uncharted2 are visually superior... KZ2 looks better than Geow2 and Ratchet&Clank: FTODis on par with Banjo, though ACIT looks even better than Banjo...
Visuals are just so subjective and all have an opinion but I think it's safe to say that all the games we mentioned are comparable and close in their visual quality. In other words; it's not like comparing night and day as this thread seems to try to imply.[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]
Gears 2 & Banjo N&B - me thinks you need to take a look see.
I know we haven't seen anything yet but me thinks MS & Bungie have something to prove so come late 2010, we shall see on that as well. :P
SecretPolice
while both Geow2 & Banjo look great i still think that KZ2 & Uncharted2 are visually superior... KZ2 looks better than Geow2 and Ratchet&Clank: FTODis on par with Banjo, though ACIT looks even better than Banjo...
Visuals are just so subjective and all have an opinion but I think it's safe to say that all the games we mentioned are comparable and close in their visual quality. In other words; it's not like comparing night and day as this thread seems to try to imply.i agree, but it is still clear that games such as KZ2 & U2 currently offer the best visuals on consoles...
I can accept someone having a different opinion when it comes to personal preferences in artisticstyles taken by devs, however i cannot understand why someonewont acceptthe general 'opinion' stated by the media itself (so no fanboy talk)when saying games such as Uncharted2 or KZ2have the best visuals consoles currently have on offer ..
Visuals are just so subjective and all have an opinion but I think it's safe to say that all the games we mentioned are comparable and close in their visual quality. In other words; it's not like comparing night and day as this thread seems to try to imply.[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]
[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]
while both Geow2 & Banjo look great i still think that KZ2 & Uncharted2 are visually superior... KZ2 looks better than Geow2 and Ratchet&Clank: FTODis on par with Banjo, though ACIT looks even better than Banjo...
Malta_1980
i agree, but it is still clear that games such as KZ2 & U2 currently offer the best visuals on consoles...
I can accept someone having a different opinion when it comes to personal preferences in artisticstyles taken by devs, however i cannot understand why someonewont acceptthe general 'opinion' stated by the media itself (so no fanboy talk)when saying games such as Uncharted2 or KZ2have the best visuals consoles currently have on offer ..
Frankly I still think it's mostly just...:P
But okay - game on. :)
360 has been out a year longer than PS3 but PS3 is way ahead of them in graphics when it comes to exlusives. Uncharted 2 (and 1 lol) and Killzone 2, MGS4 are way superior in the graphics department. Gears 2 shows very little improvements and Halo ODST is laughable. Doesn't this confirm that developers are holding back on multiplatform games when it comes to the PS3?
neomatrix909
it already shows just buy Resi5 and LP and Crysis 2 will end this topic
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