What?!?!? Sony Trying To Sell Another HQ Building.

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#1 Edited by blackace (20379 posts) -

What the hell is going on with Sony? I knew they were hurting for cash and they were doing some restructuring, but this is starting to get desperate. Sony is in talks to sell their original HQ building in Tokyo. This is the very first HQ building they owned when they were making the Sony Walkman & Trinitron TV's many moons ago. Locals are blasting Sony in an effort for them to keep the building as it represents Sony's birthplace. What else will Sony sell to keep their business alive?

http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/28/sony-selling-old-tokyo-hq/?ncid=rss_truncated

"It appears Sony isn't quite done selling off assets in a bid to reverse its financial losses. Just weeks after it sold its VAIO PC business, the company is reportedly in talks to offload another one of its properties: its former headquarters in central Tokyo. The deal could net Sony more than 15 billion yen ($146.5 million), adding to the $2.3 billion it recouped from the sale of its New York and Osaka buildings last year. Locals have blasted the potential move, however, arguing that the company's "birthplace," where founders Akio Morita and Masaru Ibuka worked on the Walkman and Trinitron TV, should be exempt from its restructuring efforts. The proceeds could be used to cushion the $1.1 billion loss Sony expects to make in its current financial year, putting no pressure whatsoever on the new Xperia Z2 family to sell well when it hits stores in April."

#2 Posted by stereointegrity (10701 posts) -

what!? Blackace still butt mad?!?!

#3 Posted by 93BlackHawk93 (5336 posts) -

Complaining about Sony's business won't make X1 more successful than PS4.

#4 Posted by blackace (20379 posts) -

what!? Blackace still butt mad?!?!

Sony seems to be still losing billions and having to sell buildings. I'm mad that they may end up cancelling more games if this crap continues.

#5 Posted by Assassin_87 (2311 posts) -

Shit happens. Sony is being forced to heavily restructure because of poor financial performance over the course of several years. This is the kind of thing that I'm not even interested in in an "it's news" kind of way, let alone an "I should care as a gamer" manner.

#6 Posted by FragTycoon (6430 posts) -

Lems.... showing how much they know about corporate business one failed thread at a time.

#7 Edited by moloch999 (125 posts) -

They want a bigger building. PS4 is doing so well they're upgrading.

#8 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (6191 posts) -

Sony is on life support. They are just buying time right now. This year will determine their fate.

Lol at the money they are raising too. Microsoft makes $150 million on its lunch break.

#9 Edited by blackace (20379 posts) -

@93BlackHawk93 said:

Complaining about Sony's business won't make X1 more successful than PS4.

I don't think anyone said that in the article. Are you assuming something. You know what assuming does. lol!! This isn't about the XB1. Not even part of the topic. Why every time Sony has a little bad news, you biase trolls try to bring M$ or XB1 into the topic. LOL!! That's some insecure damage control I think.

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They want a bigger building. PS4 is doing so well they're upgrading.

They aren't buying another building. lol!! The first two buildings they sold they are now paying a lease to the new owners.

#10 Posted by Solid_Max13 (3544 posts) -

Wow Lem threads everywhere I thought cows could be bad but lems are really making Xbox gamers look pitiful tbh

Btw MS closed buildings too in Vitoria BC last year lets all point to that.

#11 Posted by blackace (20379 posts) -

Wow Lem threads everywhere I thought cows could be bad but lems are really making Xbox gamers look pitiful tbh

Btw MS closed buildings too in Vitoria BC last year lets all point to that.

Lem thread?? LMAO!! If it's bad news about Sony it must be a lem thread. I guess all the negative articles Gamespot post about Sony are made by lems as well. Clueless cows. Sony has already sold 2 HQ buildings. This would be their 3rd. What does this news have to do with Microsoft? Damage control is in effect.

#12 Edited by j_assassin (898 posts) -

This is just like last gen when sony was supposedly doomed!!! But imo arguing about a pixel is more fun than the company's finance, at least graphics are game related

#13 Edited by finalstar2007 (24999 posts) -

Is it or the only people who are posting about anything related to Sony are the extreme xbox fanboys? lmfao

#14 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

Complaining about Sony's business won't make X1 more successful than PS4.

#15 Edited by thegamer00 (131 posts) -

I was going to buy a Sony alarm clock the other day. But I decided against it because Sony may go bankrupt in the next year.

#16 Edited by blackace (20379 posts) -

@finalstar2007 said:

Is it or the only people who are posting about anything related to Microsoft/XB1 are the extreme PS4 fanboys? lmfao

I'm not fanboy of brands. I'm a fanboy of games. Extremely biased cows do nothing but post XB1 / Microsoft negative news every day in SW. What a hypocrite. Here let me fix it for you.

#17 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1364 posts) -

@blackace: once again making a fool of himself by claiming he's not a fanboy.

#18 Edited by j_assassin (898 posts) -

@thegamer00: good decision, i heard the sony alarm clock doesnt do parallex filtering sumthin sumthin

#20 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1364 posts) -

@blackace: lolz, was talking about you not being an xbox fanboy....once again....

Lolz

#21 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

@blackace said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

@blackace: once again making a fool of himself by claiming he's not a fanboy.

Didn't say I wasn't a fanboy. lol!! I said I'm a fanboy of games.

#22 Posted by handssss (1827 posts) -

@blackace said:

@stereointegrity said:

what!? Blackace still butt mad?!?!

Sony seems to be still losing billions and having to sell buildings. I'm mad that they may end up cancelling more games if this crap continues.

please. you don't give a shit, you biased armchair stock analyst.

#23 Edited by Riverwolf007 (23586 posts) -

lol.

wait.

xperia is under pressure to sell well.

well guess how that is going to turn out?

sure it is a great phone but it has never sold for shyt so why would it now and why would there be any expectation for it to sell well?

anyway why keep an old building if you don't need it?

for pride?

that is exactly what got sony in the shytty shape they are in right now.

eating some pride and doing what it takes is exactly what sony should be doing so good job.

#24 Posted by Solid_Max13 (3544 posts) -

@blackace: if you're not a fanboy you'd see the massive amounts of threads that lems have made today alone but knowing you and your history you probably will agree with all of them, it's pretty stupid for lems and cows to be wanting each other to fail or go bankrupt as competition is good for both, but I guarantee this thread was made for nothing more than lems to say " hahaha Sony going under ps4 not doing well hahaha" tell me in wrong?

#25 Posted by Sagemode87 (815 posts) -

This is a forum about gaming! What's next? Posting stock results. It's easy to tell Lems are butthurt if they have to resort to talking about financials.

#26 Posted by thegamer00 (131 posts) -

What I don't understand is why are Sony fanboys so upset when its pointed out that Sony is struggling and may go bankrupt. It's all factual information. It's not something that is pulled out of people's butt. For example saying MS will go bankrupt would be ludicrous and has no basis in reality. Saying Sony is going bankrupt is just factual information. Why get mad. Just pointing the obvious.

#27 Posted by Alcapello (822 posts) -

Sony is an old company, they have alot of assets......With everything moving into more of an online infrastructure, they just don't need the extra space, hence why they aren't selling all buildings, but rather renting some out as well.

#28 Posted by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

@blackace: ironically Sonys troubles isnt related to PS4 but Microsofts troubles are related to the xbox.

Sony was having trouble before PS4 because of its TVs

#29 Edited by Solid_Max13 (3544 posts) -

@thegamer00: because Sony isn't going bankrupt, by your definition Sears should've went under years ago as well as JC Penny, but they're still active, Sony is restructuring the company, are they having financial problems? Yes they are does that mean they're going under? No and far from it. MS will not go bankrupt, but in a situation similarly they would see what is profitable and what isn't and I guarantee is Xbox is not profitable to them they will sell it, no company wants anything on their side that will not be profitable, right now Sony's media, game and insurance division are still very profitable

#30 Edited by KarateeeChop (4590 posts) -

sad times for sony :(

#31 Edited by Boggle_Dragon (90 posts) -

If this isn't a bait thread, why is it on System Wars?

#32 Posted by speedfog (3058 posts) -

Okay so TCHBO totaly here. They should be the one to be mad at SONY not the TC.

If they keep going like this in the next 10 years then they can say goodbye to their company --'.

#33 Posted by Alcapello (822 posts) -
#34 Edited by misterpmedia (3364 posts) -

scrolled too fast through the comments but will guess this has 0% to do with the PS4 and its games so I'm good.

#35 Posted by Mr-Kutaragi (1930 posts) -

Sony sell building to make more PS exclusive while MS shut down studio and scare them away like Bungie.

#36 Posted by lamprey263 (23300 posts) -

they should just cut off making TVs, so far it's lost Sony $250 million this fiscal year, it's lost them money for the last 10 years straight, it's time to abandon that

#37 Edited by juarbles (801 posts) -

It's better than selling your dignity and the little brains you had left like you dumb xboners did a long time ago. Every time you xboners open your mouth you somehow manage to devolve even more.

#38 Edited by -CC- (1890 posts) -

@blackace said:

@93BlackHawk93 said:

Complaining about Sony's business won't make X1 more successful than PS4.

This isn't about the XB1. Not even part of the topic. Why every time Sony has a little bad news, you biase trolls try to bring M$ or XB1 into the topic.

So its not about XB1 and its not about the WiiU or the PS4 either so why did you post this in SW again? Yahoo has a forum just about Sony stock and finances you should check out and stop spamming system wars. LOCK

#39 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (13549 posts) -

@93BlackHawk93 said:

Complaining about Sony's business won't make X1 more successful than PS4.

Also lol at that fanboy comment, what a dirty lemming.

#40 Posted by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -

Oh dat ps4 jelly marches on.

#41 Posted by Newhopes (4520 posts) -

The rate it's going they won't be any Sony in a few more years.

#42 Posted by jake44 (1977 posts) -

@Newhopes said:

The rate it's going they won't be any Sony in a few more years.

They'll be around for a long time.

#43 Posted by lamprey263 (23300 posts) -

their $1 billion dollar loss projection for this fiscal year is already set, cutting $150 million from that isn't going to make a lick of difference to stockholders, unless it's part of a greater effort to pull it out of the red for the year, so I wonder what other short term sources for revenue they're exploring if their plan is to convince people they're still back in the black

#44 Posted by tyloss (829 posts) -

Found this on Reddit.

lol some sony worker (janitor) quite his job an opened up this site because he thought he'd make more money.

The site's name SC.com

#45 Posted by hiphops_savior (7861 posts) -

Complaining about Sony's business won't make X1 more successful than PS4.

PS4 can win the gen and Sony still goes bankrupt. Is that all you want?

#46 Edited by Jag85 (4402 posts) -

Why not? Sony has over $150 billion worth of assets to spare. They might as well start selling some of those assets to make up for their streak of losses.

#47 Edited by blackace (20379 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie said:

@blackace: lolz, was talking about you not being an xbox fanboy....once again....

Lolz

I'm a fanboy of XB1, PS4, 3DS, PSVita, X360, PS3 games. Of course, none of this has to do with the topic on hand. Cows love to change the subject.

My preorders:

Dark Souls 2 (PS3)

SP: The Stick of Truth (XBox 360)

Titanfall (XB1)

Infamous SS (PS4)

Drive Club (PS4)

Kinect Sports Rivals (XB1)

The Order 1886 (PS4)

Mario Golf World Tour (3DS)

Project Spark (XB1)

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@handssss said:

@blackace said:

@stereointegrity said:

what!? Blackace still butt mad?!?!

Sony seems to be still losing billions and having to sell buildings. I'm mad that they may end up cancelling more games if this crap continues.

please. you don't give a shit, you biased armchair stock analyst.

Au contraire mon frere, it is you who don't give a shit. Now get lost kid.

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This is a forum about gaming! What's next? Posting stock results. It's easy to tell Lems are butthurt if they have to resort to talking about financials.

Well, financial are important for gaming. No money? No Games get made. If you can't understand that, then you're dumb as a brick.

#48 Posted by blackace (20379 posts) -
@SEANMCAD said:

@blackace: ironically Sonys troubles isnt related to PS4 but Microsofts troubles are related to the xbox.

Sony was having trouble before PS4 because of its TVs

Not sure what troubles you're talking about for M$. They just made $6.5 billion in profit last quarter. If that's trouble, I'd like some of it. Sony is about to have another billion in loses... again. They sold buildings and stocks last year to try and show some kind of profit. Now they've sold their Laptop/PC division, outsourcing their HDTV business, closed 20 stores and laid off 6000 employees. Nowthey are talking about selling another HQ building. I'd be worried about what else will be sold or cut. Time will tell.

#49 Edited by Phazevariance (10937 posts) -

I think system wars would implode if Sony went bankrupt next year and ended the PS4 early because of it.

#50 Posted by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

@blackace said:
@SEANMCAD said:

@blackace: ironically Sonys troubles isnt related to PS4 but Microsofts troubles are related to the xbox.

Sony was having trouble before PS4 because of its TVs

Not sure what troubles you're talking about for M$. They just made $6.5 billion in profit last quarter. If that's trouble, I'd like some of it. Sony is about to have another billion in loses... again. They sold buildings and stocks last year to try and show some kind of profit. Now they've sold their Laptop/PC division, outsourcing their HDTV business, closed 20 stores and laid off 6000 employees. Nowthey are talking about selling another HQ building. I'd be worried about what else will be sold or cut. Time will tell.

Microsofts bed and butter is SharePoint, Windows and SQL Server. It isnt nor has it ever been Xbox. Xbox does not affect their core business directly which is why profits are fine. Corporate use of SharePoint, Windows and SQL Server are still very strong and very solid.

Xbox on the other hand caused a lot of people to 'quit' or 'get fired' depending on how you spin it. As a whole the Bing and MSN have always been a sore spot for Microsoft with Xbox picking up the slack for their Entertainment business. This round however Xbox is also a sore spot.

Sony is in trouble corporate wide because of its TVs. If the same was happening for Microsoft the translation would be Sharepoint, windows and SQL Server.