The 30 vs 60 fps test - can you see the difference

Shamelessly stolen from the GAF but I found this interesting as there is always a lot of debate about it here. The examples used are from Dark Souls and to ME the difference is really clear but some people have reported not being able to see it and I really don't know what to say to that :P it's really obvious to me.

Here is an example but there is a full test with 3 gifs too below that is a little less obvious to spot

Full test

or 60 fps Uncharted 3

Clicking the link gives you the better pics, these look slow-mo.

Nope can't tell the difference.

Why both looks like slo-mo? Anyway, left.rjdofu

They're not slo-mo, they're normal speed

The left one is clearly 60fps, it's a lot smoother.

30fps is fine, but when it's paired with a 60fps the 30fps looks very unnatural.

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]Why both looks like slo-mo? Anyway, left.seanmcloughlin

They're not slo-mo, they're normal speed

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]Why both looks like slo-mo? Anyway, left.seanmcloughlin

They're not slo-mo, they're normal speed

The link shows both of them properly.

In a video with that much detail the difference can be subtle, most people will do better with this:

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

-Gifs

-In a browser

-Lined up side-by-side

you cant deduce it from that clip.. you need a longer clip and maybe something that isnt so dark...and the chartcter has to be moving of course...then play those side by side...

but not on youtube...utube dumbs everything down to 30fps even if its more..

The left one clearly has better framerate :|, what are you guys seeing?rjdofu

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]Why both looks like slo-mo? Anyway, left.rjdofu

They're not slo-mo, they're normal speed

Holy christ how? :? 

In a video with that much detail the difference can be subtle, most people will do better with this:

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

Big_Red_Button

this

much better

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]The left one clearly has better framerate :|, what are you guys seeing?Ballroompirate

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In a video with that much detail the difference can be subtle, most people will do better with this:

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

Big_Red_Button

The left one is definitely smoother.

In a video with that much detail the difference can be subtle, most people will do better with this:

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

Big_Red_Button

But we don't play bouncing blocks. We play games and that's what everyone here debates all the time in terms of framerate, so it's a far far better test

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]The left one clearly has better framerate :|, what are you guys seeing?rjdofu

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[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

In a video with that much detail the difference can be subtle, most people will do better with this:

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

shadowchronicle

The game comparison is  abetter real world example. People here say they can't see the difference between 30 and 60 in game so this is a test for that.

The bouncing blocks is a perfect 30 vs 60 fps test but it also has 15 fps in it which makes 60 look EVEN smoother. 

[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

In a video with that much detail the difference can be subtle, most people will do better with this:

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

seanmcloughlin

But we don't play bouncing blocks. We play games and that's what everyone here debates all the time in terms of framerate, so it's a far far better test

thata was easy. after 5 second of observation 

left is 60 fps while right is 30 fps 

The left one clearly has better framerate :|, what are you guys seeing?rjdofu

Exactly.

Anyone who can't tell the difference needs to turn up there awareness knob. 

Even in the one with the bouncing block it is still easy to tell the higher frame rates apart. 

Smoother is smoother (especially up to 60fps), although the bouncing block shows the difference being slightly less apparent, but it is still easy to see.

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]The left one clearly has better framerate :|, what are you guys seeing?rjdofu

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When it comes to fps the main difference is the way the game feels it just makes the game feel so smooth as for just watching it is not too noticeable. And anyone who disagrees is either blind or has never played 2 versions of the same game at 30 and 60 fps. If I had to guess it would be the one on the left.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

In a video with that much detail the difference can be subtle, most people will do better with this:

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

rjdofu

But we don't play bouncing blocks. We play games and that's what everyone here debates all the time in terms of framerate, so it's a far far better test

Why? The gifs show a clip of gameplay running at normal speed at different frame rates. It's already done. Any longer and your eyes start adjusting and you don't notice as much anymore. Plus they wouldn't be identical either like the gif in the OP. 

You can barely tell, but honestly it's not a big deal until you're actually playing the game. Then you can easily tell the difference right away.

When it comes to fps the main difference is the way the game feels it just makes the game feel so smooth as for just watching it is not too noticeable. And anyone who disagrees is either blind or has never played 2 versions of the same game at 30 and 60 fps.redskins26rocs

This is a big thing with this debate I think. A lot of people play say Uncharted 2 and say 30 fps is fine and 60 fps doesn't matter for games  but that's only cos we have never seen Uncharted running at 60 to tell.

The big thing for me was going from my PS3 playing a LOT of BC2 and then getting a gaming PC and seeing 60fps constant and my what a change that was

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

But we don't play bouncing blocks. We play games and that's what everyone here debates all the time in terms of framerate, so it's a far far better test

seanmcloughlin

Why? The gifs show a clip of gameplay running at normal speed at different frame rates. It's already done. Any longer and your eyes start adjusting and you don't notice as much anymore. Plus they wouldn't be identical either like the gif in the OP. 

[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"][QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

In a video with that much detail the difference can be subtle, most people will do better with this:

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

seanmcloughlin

The game comparison is  abetter real world example. People here say they can't see the difference between 30 and 60 in game so this is a test for that.

The bouncing blocks is a perfect 30 vs 60 fps test but it also has 15 fps in it which makes 60 look EVEN smoother. 

[QUOTE="redskins26rocs"]When it comes to fps the main difference is the way the game feels it just makes the game feel so smooth as for just watching it is not too noticeable. And anyone who disagrees is either blind or has never played 2 versions of the same game at 30 and 60 fps.seanmcloughlin

This is a big thing with this debate I think. A lot of people play say Uncharted 2 and say 30 fps is fine and 60 fps doesn't matter for games  but that's only cos we have never seen Uncharted running at 60 to tell.

The big thing for me was going from my PS3 playing a LOT of BC2 and then getting a gaming PC and seeing 60fps constant and my what a change that was

Actually, we have seen Uncharted running in 60fps and the results are very clear.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-what-if-uncharted-3-ran-at-60-fps

The difference is huge.

I can't see the difference. Those look like the same two gifs to me. mems_1224

If you click on the link at the bottom of op's post it will bring you to a new window, and it's much more noticeable than in gif form. In gif form, you can barely see any difference whatsoever when the gif is in the forum. 

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] Then you should choose a better method, like recording 2 short videos.rjdofu

Why? The gifs show a clip of gameplay running at normal speed at different frame rates. It's already done. Any longer and your eyes start adjusting and you don't notice as much anymore. Plus they wouldn't be identical either like the gif in the OP. 

Not affected THAT much if almost everyone is right so far. 

And I wouldn't be able to sync two exact gameplay videos side by side anyway, and when they're not identical then you also run into some of those "other factors" you just said. 

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]I can't see the difference. Those look like the same two gifs to me. cfisher2833

If you click on the link at the bottom of his post it will bring you to a new window, and it's much more noticeable than in gif form. In gif form, you can barely see any difference whatsoever. 

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="redskins26rocs"]When it comes to fps the main difference is the way the game feels it just makes the game feel so smooth as for just watching it is not too noticeable. And anyone who disagrees is either blind or has never played 2 versions of the same game at 30 and 60 fps.XVision84

This is a big thing with this debate I think. A lot of people play say Uncharted 2 and say 30 fps is fine and 60 fps doesn't matter for games  but that's only cos we have never seen Uncharted running at 60 to tell.

The big thing for me was going from my PS3 playing a LOT of BC2 and then getting a gaming PC and seeing 60fps constant and my what a change that was

Actually, we have seen Uncharted running in 60fps and the results are very clear.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-what-if-uncharted-3-ran-at-60-fps

The difference is huge.

I stand corrected then. And yeah that's a drastic difference. Makes the game look much better to me

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Actually, we have seen Uncharted running in 60fps and the results are very clear.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-what-if-uncharted-3-ran-at-60-fps

The difference is huge.

XVision84

Running at 60FPS Running at 30FPS clyde46

Youtube caps all videos at 30fps.

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Running at 60FPS Running at 30FPS XVision84

Youtube caps all videos at 30fps.

Damn link in the OP was broken and no one corrected me lol

http://hiresreset.tumblr.com/post/47287084062/space-left-intentionally-blank

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Why? The gifs show a clip of gameplay running at normal speed at different frame rates. It's already done. Any longer and your eyes start adjusting and you don't notice as much anymore. Plus they wouldn't be identical either like the gif in the OP. 

seanmcloughlin

Not affected THAT much if almost everyone is right so far. 

And I wouldn't be able to sync two exact gameplay videos side by side anyway, and when they're not identical then you also run into some of those "other factors" you just said. 

[QUOTE="XVision84"]/p>

Actually, we have seen Uncharted running in 60fps and the results are very clear.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-what-if-uncharted-3-ran-at-60-fps

The difference is huge.

shadowchronicle

Added it to the OP too

both look great im leaning twards the left a little but guess waht you guys that make a big deal about this are total losers... complete and utter losers... the only time i notice FPS is when a game drops in FPS that the only time... as long as it is a consistant FPS it should be good for 95% of all videogame players

both look great im leaning twards the left a little but guess waht you guys that make a big deal about this are total losers... complete and utter losers... the only time i notice FPS is when a game drops in FPS that the only time... as long as it is a consistant FPS it should be good for 95% of all videogame players

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