The 30 vs 60 fps test - can you see the difference

For some reason when I look at that GIF in the gamespot post there is no difference but when I open it in a new tab the difference is like night and day.

The link is pretty obvious if you sit there and compare the two for a little while.... however where as 60 fps looks a little less choppy in the sword movements, it is kind of hard to tell other than that. Once again, that is side by side. If I had my choice I would take 60 fps or higher, although 30 fps has not affected my gameplaying as far as I am aware.

Can't tell the differnce in both the gifs and the videos. And I think Uncharted 3 runs smoother than the videos when playing it.

Watched it twice, couldn't tell a difference.

Huge noticeable difference.  The left is clearly much smoother.  

If you want to do a real comparison record some gameplay footage doing 30 and 60FPS.

 

Go into an older CoD game and put in /com_maxfps 30.

Jebus213

[QUOTE="ciorlandenis"]

[QUOTE="hoplayletsplay"]The left one is smoother, but I wouldn't know it's 30 more frames smoother if I wasn't told in first place. With that being said, anyone thinks it's funny how some players play their games with the frame rate displayed 24/7. It's as if they are relying one the tiny number in the corner to tell them how beautiful a game is. p4s2p0

they do that to notice any sudden FPS drops......... people like you who can't discern FPS too well have an inferiority complex I think

Edit: P.S. I do game on PC, not that I have the powerful PC though.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

If you want to do a real comparison record some gameplay footage doing 30 and 60FPS.

 

Go into an older CoD game and put in /com_maxfps 30.

clyde46

All Youtube videos are capped at 24FPS. You won't see a difference.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

If you want to do a real comparison record some gameplay footage doing 30 and 60FPS.

 

Go into an older CoD game and put in /com_maxfps 30.

Jebus213

All Youtube videos are capped at 24FPS. You won't see a difference.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

If you want to do a real comparison record some gameplay footage doing 30 and 60FPS.

 

Go into an older CoD game and put in /com_maxfps 30.

Jebus213

All Youtube videos are capped at 24FPS. You won't see a difference.

In a video with that much detail the difference can be subtle, most people will do better with this:

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

Big_Red_Button

This^^

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I've already posted some videos in this thread. One recorded at 60FPS, the other recorded at 30FPS. clyde46

All Youtube videos are capped at 24FPS. You won't see a difference.

Both videos are running at the same framerate. It doesn't matter if you recorded it at 60FPS. It's capped at 24FPS. There is no difference between them :|

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

All Youtube videos are capped at 24FPS. You won't see a difference.

Jebus213

Both videos are running at the same framerate. It doesn't matter if you recorded it at 60FPS. It's capped at 24FPS. There is no difference between them :|

Yes it is...but not in the framerate...one will be more fluid the other one will be less fluid...dosent matter if the video player is capped at 24fps,10 or 5...
You should do a google search...you will understand how it works in 5 minutes :) 

the reason DF started using Youtube is because there is no browser player that can handle 60 frames very well so  it was pointless and watching frames from a gif? Are you joking TC?

:lol:

If you want real 60 frames then download this and put it on your PS3 because players like VLC and MPC (Media Player Classic) are really bad at doing 60 frames too because they are designed to watch movies. So either use your PS3 or try WMP (Windows Media Player). And if you can't tell the difference then there's something really wrong with your eyes.

Digital Foundry quotes:

-"Do bear in mind that streaming video doesn't take well to high frame rates"

-"Running the 1080p60 version of the trailer on a PlayStation 3 attached to a large HDTV is definitely the way to go."

-"It transpires that there's a pretty good reason YouTube supports pretty much every type of video format you care to mention except 60 frames per second playback - across a range of browsers the Flash renderer appears to have massive issues sustaining any kind of update north of 30FPS, even if you're using a fast desktop PC."

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

All Youtube videos are capped at 24FPS. You won't see a difference.

Jebus213

Both videos are running at the same framerate. It doesn't matter if you recorded it at 60FPS. It's capped at 24FPS. There is no difference between them :|

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I've already posted some videos in this thread. One recorded at 60FPS, the other recorded at 30FPS. clyde46

All Youtube videos are capped at 24FPS. You won't see a difference.

   ^ :lol:  

My goodness, the stupity on this board really has no limits.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Shouldn't matter. If the source material is recorded in 60FPS, the difference between 60 and 30FPS is visible.rhazzy

Both videos are running at the same framerate. It doesn't matter if you recorded it at 60FPS. It's capped at 24FPS. There is no difference between them :|

Yes it is...but not in the framerate...one will be more fluid the other one will be less fluid...dosent matter if the video player is capped at 24fps,10 or 5...
You should do a google search...you will understand how it works in 5 minutes :) 

I've had games recorded at 60FPS that have come out choppy and less fluid. Why? Because some games take up more recource's then the other.

[QUOTE="rhazzy"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

Both videos are running at the same framerate. It doesn't matter if you recorded it at 60FPS. It's capped at 24FPS. There is no difference between them :|

 

Jebus213

Yes it is...but not in the framerate...one will be more fluid the other one will be less fluid...dosent matter if the video player is capped at 24fps,10 or 5...
You should do a google search...you will understand how it works in 5 minutes :) 

I've had games recorded at 60FPS that have come out choppy and less fluid. Why? Because some games take up more recource's then the other.

This is the worst framerate test in the world.

For a real world test a console player just needs to go from playing a game like Killzone 2, 3, or the Halo series to playing any of the CoDs. There is an immediate increase in responsiveness and smoothness that's even felt on a controller. On the PC it's even a larger factor as a mouse is overall more responsive than a controller.

Youtube caps at 30 fps (not 24), so videos on Youtube look a bit smoother than your average cinema (which is capped at 24). Unless you're using that one test with the cube falling, the only real way to tell is by actually playing. 

Videos only do it half justice. Unless you're actually controlling the camera, your brain filters out the smoothness in a few second and you just become used to watching the higher FPS. 

Nope can't tell the difference.

Ballroompirate

all those gifs appear to be slowed down, so what you are really comparing is more like 15 vs 30fps which is alot more noticeable than 30 vs 60 fps.

althought generally speaking 30 vs 60 fps is noticeable, but depending on the game, and especially for console games its not very noticeable... and certainly doesnt warrant the increased processing power for 90% of titles out there.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

All Youtube videos are capped at 24FPS. You won't see a difference.

Gue1

   ^ :lol:  

My goodness, the stupity on this board really has no limits.

This is the worst framerate test in the world.

For a real world test a console player just needs to go from playing a game like Killzone 2, 3, or the Halo series to playing any of the CoDs. There is an immediate increase in responsiveness and smoothness that's even felt on a controller. On the PC it's even a larger factor as a mouse is overall more responsive than a controller.

Youtube caps at 30 fps (not 24), so videos on Youtube look a bit smoother than your average cinema (which is capped at 24). Unless you're using that one test with the cube falling, the only real way to tell is by actually playing. 

Videos only do it half justice. Unless you're actually controlling the camera, your brain filters out the smoothness in a few second and you just become used to watching the higher FPS. 

Wasdie

Or we could upload some 10 second videos doing 30 and 60FPS to mediafire.....

If only my PC was still up and running.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="rhazzy"]

Yes it is...but not in the framerate...one will be more fluid the other one will be less fluid...dosent matter if the video player is capped at 24fps,10 or 5...
You should do a google search...you will understand how it works in 5 minutes :) 

clyde46

I've had games recorded at 60FPS that have come out choppy and less fluid. Why? Because some games take up more recource's then the other.

 I mean really... You went from The Walking Dead to GTA4...

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

This is the worst framerate test in the world.

For a real world test a console player just needs to go from playing a game like Killzone 2, 3, or the Halo series to playing any of the CoDs. There is an immediate increase in responsiveness and smoothness that's even felt on a controller. On the PC it's even a larger factor as a mouse is overall more responsive than a controller.

Youtube caps at 30 fps (not 24), so videos on Youtube look a bit smoother than your average cinema (which is capped at 24). Unless you're using that one test with the cube falling, the only real way to tell is by actually playing. 

Videos only do it half justice. Unless you're actually controlling the camera, your brain filters out the smoothness in a few second and you just become used to watching the higher FPS. 

Jebus213

Or we could upload some 10 second videos doing 30 and 60FPS to mediafire.....

If only my PC was still up and running.

I got them all right on the full test. So I can see the difference.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

I've had games recorded at 60FPS that have come out choppy and less fluid. Why? Because some games take up more recource's then the other.

Jebus213

 I mean really... You went from The Walking Dead to GTA4...

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

This is the worst framerate test in the world.

For a real world test a console player just needs to go from playing a game like Killzone 2, 3, or the Halo series to playing any of the CoDs. There is an immediate increase in responsiveness and smoothness that's even felt on a controller. On the PC it's even a larger factor as a mouse is overall more responsive than a controller.

Youtube caps at 30 fps (not 24), so videos on Youtube look a bit smoother than your average cinema (which is capped at 24). Unless you're using that one test with the cube falling, the only real way to tell is by actually playing. 

Videos only do it half justice. Unless you're actually controlling the camera, your brain filters out the smoothness in a few second and you just become used to watching the higher FPS. 

clyde46

Or we could upload some 10 second videos doing 30 and 60FPS to mediafire.....

If only my PC was still up and running.

Unless somebody is on dial-up it shouldn't take long to download two compressed 10 second videos.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

 

Or we could upload some 10 second videos doing 30 and 60FPS to mediafire.....

 

If only my PC was still up and running.

Jebus213

Unless we're dial-up it shouldn't take long to download two compressed 10 second videos.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

This is the worst framerate test in the world.

For a real world test a console player just needs to go from playing a game like Killzone 2, 3, or the Halo series to playing any of the CoDs. There is an immediate increase in responsiveness and smoothness that's even felt on a controller. On the PC it's even a larger factor as a mouse is overall more responsive than a controller.

Youtube caps at 30 fps (not 24), so videos on Youtube look a bit smoother than your average cinema (which is capped at 24). Unless you're using that one test with the cube falling, the only real way to tell is by actually playing. 

Videos only do it half justice. Unless you're actually controlling the camera, your brain filters out the smoothness in a few second and you just become used to watching the higher FPS. 

Jebus213

Or we could upload some 10 second videos doing 30 and 60FPS to mediafire.....

If only my PC was still up and running.

I immediately thought the Left because it looked smoother.

I can usually notice the difference.

But I don't understand the point. 30fps looks pretty nice and smooth anyway.

[QUOTE="Big_Red_Button"]

In a video with that much detail the difference can be subtle, most people will do better with this:

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

KBFloYd

this

much better

Yes indeed! 60FPS is the sweet spot ... Perfect example this gen would be the PS3 version of Madden 07 running at 30FPS compared to the 360 running at 60FPS, it was a very noticable difference.

Seeing is one thing, actually playing is another. 60 FPS is much more responsive. I limited Crysis 3 to 30 FPS on my PC then unlocked the framerate and it felt noticeably more fluid.

The left one is smoother, though a video is much more conclusive, and finally, playing it side by side is the final nail. Once you're used to 60 FPS, playing the same game at 30 FPS will seem so slow, and unresponsive.

I can't tell from these GIFs but when playing CS:GO I can definitely see it and FEEL it when it drops below 50.  

I see no difference.

i think that test is bs, when i play a game i instantly notice if it drops to 30 fps.

Next time put a real test.

Is the left or right side 60 frames?

doing it with gifs is a horrible idea, because they have this horrible habit of slowing down at random depending on what your PC is doing. but my guess is the right one is 30fps and the left one is 60. i can't tell clearly, because these are f*cking gifs, but in-game, the difference is clear as night and day, especially when you see the change happening.BrunoBRS

Open it in a seperate tab. It's a lot smoother.

It's pretty obvious which ones are at 60 FPS, but yeah, these aren't very good examples of the benefits that 60 FPS bring to gameplay.JMR09

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]doing it with gifs is a horrible idea, because they have this horrible habit of slowing down at random depending on what your PC is doing. but my guess is the right one is 30fps and the left one is 60. i can't tell clearly, because these are f*cking gifs, but in-game, the difference is clear as night and day, especially when you see the change happening.el3m2tigre

Open it in a seperate tab. It's a lot smoother.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]doing it with gifs is a horrible idea, because they have this horrible habit of slowing down at random depending on what your PC is doing. but my guess is the right one is 30fps and the left one is 60. i can't tell clearly, because these are f*cking gifs, but in-game, the difference is clear as night and day, especially when you see the change happening.BrunoBRS

Open it in a seperate tab. It's a lot smoother.

Its worth to note that fps is very noticeable only wen you are "controlling the picture". Thats why movies are fine in 24.

Wen I play a game I can tell the different between 30 60 in a second.

Left one has the 60 the right has 30 and I see a major difference. People who don't need to get their eyes checked.