The 30 vs 60 fps test - can you see the difference

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Open it in a seperate tab. It's a lot smoother.

slipknot0129

Prove it.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] i eventually did that, but it doesn't change the fact that on video, it would've been much better.Bebi_vegeta

Prove it.

Its worth to note that fps is very noticeable only wen you are "controlling the picture". Thats why movies are fine in 24.

 

Wen I play a game I can tell the different between 30 60 in a second.

beganoo

It's hard to see in the gifs. Having played Dark Souls on the PC and the PS3. The FPS makes a world of difference. It's scary smooth on the PC. :P

Plus, it looks so much better, you get to see details in the armor that are lost in the PS3 version.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Its worth to note that fps is very noticeable only wen you are "controlling the picture". Thats why movies are fine in 24.

 

Wen I play a game I can tell the different between 30 60 in a second.

clyde46

Erm then why wen you turn on fraps while you are watching a move on your PC it shows 24. Fraps doesn't lie.If there was 2 of the same frames it would have show it regardless.Its per second. You must be misstaken.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="beganoo"]

Its worth to note that fps is very noticeable only wen you are "controlling the picture". Thats why movies are fine in 24.

 

Wen I play a game I can tell the different between 30 60 in a second.

beganoo

Erm then why wen you turn on fraps while you are watching a move on your PC it shows 24. Fraps doesn't lie.If there was 2 of the same frames it would have show it regardless.Its per second. You must be misstaken.

30fps to 60fps is noticeable, but not enough for me to care.Ghost120x

Man it must suck to be stuck at 20-30 fps. Lol consoles.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Actually, films are recorded at 24FPS but projected at double the FPS. So a 24FPS film is actually projected at 48FPS. The projector has a plate that causes each frame to flash onto the screen twice for every second. This gives the that "film" look without the jerkiness. clyde46

Erm then why wen you turn on fraps while you are watching a move on your PC it shows 24. Fraps doesn't lie.If there was 2 of the same frames it would have show it regardless.Its per second. You must be misstaken.

Whats your point. Movis on PC for example run in 24 and have that ""film" look without the jerkiness."

People don't understand how gifs work on threads. You have to wait for the whole gifs to load once before it runs at normal speed. And Left. 

As others have said, the left is smoother.

However the difference is far more noticeable when actually controlling it like in a game.

I find it hard to believe that some people can't tell the difference.

There is a huge difference

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Its worth to note that fps is very noticeable only wen you are "controlling the picture". Thats why movies are fine in 24.

 

Wen I play a game I can tell the different between 30 60 in a second.

clyde46

come on man, I have a friend that makes movies and even though I'm not an expert I can tell you obviously don't know anything of what you're talking about and you're doing even worse than LoosingEnds! So SHUT-UP! 

 virtually all film projectors in commercial movie theaters project at a constant speed of 24 frame/s.

beganoo is completely correct on what he is saying. 24 frames works on movies because it is a controlled environment and even then they have to make use of many techniques and have a lot of experience to make the movie watchable because of such a low frame-rate and they need to put lots of care on the editing too. But now on films like The Hobbit because of the higher frame-rate they can go more crazy on the scenes and do things that simply wouldn't work on 24 frames.

An animated gif is very poor demonstration of framerare differences, I doubt it even runs consistently in different browsers and/or on different hardware.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="beganoo"]

Its worth to note that fps is very noticeable only wen you are "controlling the picture". Thats why movies are fine in 24.

 

Wen I play a game I can tell the different between 30 60 in a second.

Gue1

come on man, I have a friend that makes movies and even though I'm not an expert I can tell you obviously don't know anything of what you're talking about and you're doing even worse than LoosingEnds! So SHUT-UP! 

virtually all film projectors in commercial movie theaters project at a constant speed of 24 frame/s.

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Actually, films are recorded at 24FPS but projected at double the FPS. So a 24FPS film is actually projected at 48FPS. The projector has a plate that causes each frame to flash onto the screen twice for every second. This gives the that "film" look without the jerkiness. clyde46

come on man, I have a friend that makes movies and even though I'm not an expert I can tell you obviously don't know anything of what you're talking about and you're doing even worse than LoosingEnds! So SHUT-UP! 

virtually all film projectors in commercial movie theaters project at a constant speed of 24 frame/s.

Stop that. Dump post =/= people didn't read it. Eather explain yourself or stfu.

Most movies are viewed in 24 frames per second.

Maybe your emphasis is on "projected" and I won't pretend to know anything about projectors but we are talking about games.Monitors and TVs. No one give a shit.

30fps to 60fps is noticeable, but not enough for me to care.Ghost120x

It's noticable in those gifs.

Its very noticable when playing.

You don't "care" because you don't have it. When your system of choice finally DOES get it  standard in all games(probably in a FEW gens, lmao consoles) you'll brag about it until the dogs come home.

I think this poll should have third option saying No one gives a shit except for pc gamers. wasted_wisdom

Because half of SW threads for the last year havn't been about next gen CONSOLE hardware.

Because digitalfoundry threads don't get 30+ pages, bragging over +5 fps on ps3 or xbox360.

Stop embarassing yourself, your inferiority is showing.

I think this poll should have third option saying No one gives a shit except for pc gamers. wasted_wisdom

^mad cuz bad

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Gue1"]

 

come on man, I have a friend that makes movies and even though I'm not an expert I can tell you obviously don't know anything of what you're talking about and you're doing even worse than LoosingEnds! So SHUT-UP! 

 

virtually all film projectors in commercial movie theaters project at a constant speed of 24 frame/s.

beganoo

Stop that. Dump post =/= people didn't read it. Eather explain yourself or stfu.

Most movies are viewed in 24 frames per second.

Maybe your emphasis is on "projected" and I won't pretend to know anything about projectors but we are talking about games.Monitors and TVs. No one give a shit.

Definitely can see that the left one is far smoother.

Right one looks more cinematic.freedomfreak

Is the left or right side 60 frames?

slipknot0129

They're the exact same gif ... you've all been trolled :|

No, they're not the exact same. The one on the left is visibly more smooth. Open them in a new tab, zoom in with Ctrl+mouse scroll up if you have a hard time seeing the difference.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I see you didn't read my post then. clyde46

Stop that. Dump post =/= people didn't read it. Eather explain yourself or stfu.

Most movies are viewed in 24 frames per second.

Maybe your emphasis is on "projected" and I won't pretend to know anything about projectors but we are talking about games.Monitors and TVs. No one give a shit.

I think your full of shit and made a pathetic attempt to look smart and/or knowledgeable in a thread that has nothing do with in in a first place. If what you said even is done nowadays its not a standart by any means.

Mr. Actually.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="beganoo"]

 

Stop that. Dump post =/= people didn't read it. Eather explain yourself or stfu.

 

Most movies are viewed in 24 frames per second.

 

Maybe your emphasis is on "projected" and I won't pretend to know anything about projectors but we are talking about games.Monitors and TVs. No one give a shit.

beganoo

I think your full of shit and made a pathetic attempt to look smart and/or knowledgeable in a thread that has nothing do with in in a first place. If what you said even is done nowadays its not a standart by any means.

Mr. Actually.

Most people see it because they want to see it, not because it makes a difference.

The only games that it really makes a difference in is games that are super fast paced. Racers or Heavily twitch based shooters. The real problem is when a game can't hold a steady FPS at 30 or above. 

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]I doubt that the actual game would look worse than on the gif. 

slipknot0129

Prove it.

So I guess you can't back it up.

Games that are limited to 30fps are unplayable IMHO.anshul89

In competitive games that you want to play seriously yes. Everything else is fine as far as I care.

Am I huge advocate of higher FPS but only if you really need it.

For SP 30 is fine most of the time depending on the game.

I don't see a difference.

re: the GIFs: quite hard to tell a big difference within that isolated example. i agree with #237 / SaltyMeatballs.

re: Dark Souls... i've played it at 60 and with a 30 frame cap and the difference is *very* noticeable switching between the two.. enough that made me want to start buying PC versions of games (I've been a X360 gamer for the last 6 years.. then decided to try out my GTX560 Ti SC card on a few PC games).

re: 24fps on film. there's a natural motion blur you don't get on digital games. this gives a smoother appearance. until you see those aerial shorts where they pan across a cityscape etc and everything becomes really jerky. Just watch Hobbit in 48fps and you'll notice a big difference

9 month thread.... sigh...

Hooray for necro threads. Though this thread does highlight some contradictory opinions on it compared to what people on SW are saying these days

I think this thread should be pinned though.

Considering so many people said "I can't tell the difference" even in a scenario like this with both side by side and now are talking about "60fps >>>>> 30fps" is quite funny