SW: Mobile Wars - HTC Droid DNA - 5" 1920x1080 display - Snapdragon S4 Pro

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So angry birds space comes to WP8 finally and? Its exclusive to WP8 sorry WP 7.5 users which happen to be all the users right now lmao.

NVIDIATI

It would appear the Snapdragon S4 and S4 Pro have been a real hit for Qualcomm

Qualcomm Q4 2012 earnings: $4.87 billion in revenue, $1.27 billion net profit

"A peek inside Qualcomm's books reveal that the company is now sitting on $43 billion in assets and $9.4 billion in liabilities"

We're talking about Microsoft, in many ways they're just as bad as Apple.

NVIDIATI

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We're talking about Microsoft, in many ways they're just as bad as Apple.

musicalmac

They tend to charge premium prices for almost every software they sell, their services are also milked, such as Xbox Live. Much like Apple they'll do everything to maximize profits even at the convenience of the consumer.

Microsoft's Surface is an example of what they want other companies to create. It's possible that MS isn't depending on the sales of their own Surface tablet, but are hoping 3rd party hardware manufacturers will begin making RT tablets as much like Surface as possible, which is the smartest thing they could do.
musicalmac

For the most part Microsoft describes their entrance into the tablet market as a necessity to create (and force) innovation. Just as you said, they want the hardware manufactures to jump in after them.

Excluding Microsoft the only hardware manufacturer that's caught my attention over the past few years had been ASUS.

With an ever growing lineup of quality devices they're becoming a huge player.

• Zenbook/Zenbook touch, ultrabooks
• Transformer/Vivo, tablets
• Transformer book, ultrabook/tablet
• Padfone. phone/tablet
• TAICHI, ultrabook/tablet
• Vivo book. touchscreen laptop
• etc.

Google Play just hit 700,000 apps.

http://androidandme.com/2012/11/applications/google-play-store-hits-700k-app-mark-check-out-android-and-mes-personal-faves/

^ At the very least the workers at a US facility won't threaten the company with a mass suicide in protest of regulations.

The final nail in the WP8 coffin, absolutely TERRIBLE battery life despite only iOS style multi-tasking.

Apparently China Mobile will be getting the Nokia Lumia 920T, which uses Snapdragon S4 Pro (MSM8960T).

If true, this would be the most powerful Windows Phone 8 device.

Apparently China Mobile will be getting the Nokia Lumia 920T, which uses Snapdragon S4 Pro.

If true, this would be the most powerful Windows Phone 8 device, and tied for top spot with other S4 Pro devices.

NVIDIATI

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Apparently China Mobile will be getting the Nokia Lumia 920T, which uses Snapdragon S4 Pro.

If true, this would be the most powerful Windows Phone 8 device, and tied for top spot with other S4 Pro devices.

Gambler_3

The latest iOS app store update does.......what android was doing for a while.

http://www.macstories.net/news/apple-tweaks-design-of-app-store-category-pages/

Its so so ironic just how much apple has incorporated from android in the last 2 years. :lol:

The latest iOS app store update does.......what android was doing for a while.

http://www.macstories.net/news/apple-tweaks-design-of-app-store-category-pages/

Its so so ironic just how much apple has incorporated from android in the last 2 years. :lol:

Gambler_3

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The latest iOS app store update does.......what android was doing for a while.

http://www.macstories.net/news/apple-tweaks-design-of-app-store-category-pages/

Its so so ironic just how much apple has incorporated from android in the last 2 years. :lol:

Jonwh18

It is just so sad that there wont be a 32GB nexus 4, I just cant make up my mind on getting the 16GB version. :(

I so wish the international S3 had 2GB ram I would have gone for it then but seems like I'll just hang on to the nexus S for now and see what happens in the next few months, here's hoping for a 32GB nexus 4 like the nexus 7 got one later on.

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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

The latest iOS app store update does.......what android was doing for a while.

http://www.macstories.net/news/apple-tweaks-design-of-app-store-category-pages/

Its so so ironic just how much apple has incorporated from android in the last 2 years. :lol:

Gambler_3

It is just so sad that there wont be a 32GB nexus 4, I just cant make up my mind on getting the 16GB version. :(

I so wish the international S3 had 2GB ram I would have gone for it then but seems like I'll just hang on to the nexus S for now and see what happens in the next few months, here's hoping for a 32GB nexus 4 like the nexus 7 got one later on.

Gambler_3

Never really understood what that means. So any radnom tablet maker cna just through jellybean on their device without paying any royalties or fees?

Jonwh18

jut look at your current phone. Do you use 16gb or more of the space on there? If yes, do you frequently use all 16gb of that media or do you just have it for hte sake of having it?

Jonwh18

1. My phone doesnt do 1080p video recording.

2. My phone has started sucking on the really demanding games so I dont bother installing them. But if I get nexus 4 I'll want to play some of those games. The BIG problem with these sort of games is that they take forever to install so you only uninstall them once you are absolutely done with it.

3. When I got the nexus S 16GB was considered very generous amount of storage. I keep my phone for a long time and app size keeps getting bigger and bigger. So even if 16GB is going to be fine today maybe a year later it will be an even bigger bottleneck.

4. My phone has 14.5GB usable space but it keeps getting lower and lower on newer phones due to more memory taken by the OS and reserved for future updates and cache. Now I am unable to find this info right now but I doubt the nexus 4 will have anymore than 13GB usable space.

Its obviously not impossible to live with 16GB and I'll rather have 16GB nexus 4 than 32GB S3 but still its quite a compromise in my opinion and thats why I am going to wait a bit. And I am quite careful about not keeping totally useless stuff on my phone but I'll also rather not be in a situation where I am constantly having to organise the storage.

What is up with these Nexus 4 reviews? Based on the pros/cons/what gets mentioned, you'd think every source has received a completely different phone. Tl;dr version of Ars Techinca's review:

• S4 Pro is speedy (no duh)
• Camera is excellent aside from some LED flash issues (it just destroys pictures at close range)
• Great battery life
• Fantastic (if not quite top-tier) screen
• Boring design
• Lack of power management means the SoC heats up like a motherf*cker (potentially the reason for those weird benchmarks -- it runs faster than the S4 Pro in the Optimus G by default, but ends up hitting its thermal barrier and detuning itself in relatively short order, whereas the G is programmed to run slightly slower in order to keep temps in check)

So the consensus seems to be that it's the best and most interesting looking but also very boring Android phone, running the surprisingly slow fastest SoC on the market, with a great/mediocre camera, a fantastic/only decent screen and all day/Galaxy Nexus-tier battery life. The build quality is as good as it gets except it will explode into a million fragments of gorilla glass if looked at the wrong way, and the lack of LTE is no big deal/so egregious you should just buy an S3 and resign yourself to perpetually slow OS updates (if you even get updated beyond 4.1).

you should just buy an S3 and resign yourself to perpetually slow OS updates (if you even get updated beyond 4.1).

Slow_Show

1. SD card slot and available in 16/32/64 GB configurations.

2. Much bigger accessory ecosystem second only to iphone(this can be a REALLY big deal for people converting from the iphone). The nexus line has pretty terrible accessory support.

3. Removable battery.

4. Scratch resistant back and apparently more ergonomic design. I hate glass back on a phone. Period.

5. Better camera.

You have to say samsung really hits most of the practical spots with its phones. The nexus 4 has 2 crucial advantages which tilt the balance in its favour. Much longer software support and 2GB Ram. I could care less about better SoC when the S3 flies with everything you do and will continue to be supported by app developers as a priority being literally the face of android. Its only bottleneck is that 1GB ram can be limiting for power users.

So HTC and apple sign 10 year patent license.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_and_apple_end_their_patent_feud_with_a_global_settlement-news-5065.php

Most certainly apple got the better half of the deal here but it seems to benefit both. HTC is weakening every day financially and it really doesnt make sense to go to war on someone like apple. Apple on the other hand probably realized after the samsung verdict that it doesnt bring any reputation damage to competitors at all so it might not be worth fighting this war after all.

So now the 2 major battles remain,

Samsung vs Apple

Motorola vs Apple.

Wait there is no web version of the iOS app store??? :|

It only lets you see one page and then you have to open up itunes to go anywhere else, now itunes doesnt even allow tabbing so basically there is no comfortable way to browse the iOS app store??? :?

Anyways what I want to point out here are bogus paid apps lying on the app store unnoticed. Apple is clearly lying about reviewing all the apps before posting them because a single glance is enough to tell that these are bogus apps.

https://itunes.apple.com/in/app/widgets-pro/id530075985?mt=8

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/swype-input-method-swipe-to/id529025189?mt=8

Although this shouldn't come as a surprise, the HTC Droid DNA has been officially confirmed before the public launch on Nov. 13th. Link

Thinking about picking the HTC DNA over the Nexus 4. 1080p 5" super LCD 3 screen? Ill take that over Nexus updates anyday of the week. Also big plus to capasitive buttons. On screen buttons are incrediably annoying and cumbersome.....and so is this website on mobile devices...laggy as f*ckq

Thinking about picking the HTC DNA over the Nexus 4. 1080p 5" super LCD 3 screen? Ill take that over Nexus updates anyday of the week. Also big plus to capasitive buttons. On screen buttons are incrediably annoying and cumbersome.....and so is this website on mobile devices...laggy as f*ckq

awptical

Also enjoy all the verizon bloatware on top of HTC bloatware, it really couldnt get worse lol.

Uh oh. Looks like Samsung is putting the squeeze to Apple by hiking their processor prices by 20%

"Samsung has increased the price of manufacturing Apple's application processor by nearly 20 percent. The Korean daily notes that this is the first time Samsung has sought to increase pricing on the processors that go inside Apple's mobile devices, and that Apple, faced with a lack of alternatives, has accepted Samsung's demands."

I wonder if Apple will try to offset the added cost by hiking prices a tad on the end user.

Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Uh oh. Looks like Samsung is putting the squeeze to Apple by hiking their processor prices by 20%

"Samsung has increased the price of manufacturing Apple's application processor by nearly 20 percent. The Korean daily notes that this is the first time Samsung has sought to increase pricing on the processors that go inside Apple's mobile devices, and that Apple, faced with a lack of alternatives, has accepted Samsung's demands."

I wonder if Apple will try to offset the added cost by hiking prices a tad on the end user.

Guess we'll find out soon enough.

The_Game21x

Samsung is just trying to recover those billion dollars directly from apple. :lol:

The galaxy premier seems to be an incredible mid range phone.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_premier-review-848.php

Pretty much ticks all the boxes hardware wise and actually looks better than the S3 due to the home button being in the middle of the bezel just how it should be. And it should also be more easy to handle. The powerVR SGX544 seems to be quite powerful handling the HD resolution with ease. Also samsung's sheer optimization really makes its dual core A9 chipset shine over the competition.

And ofcourse there is no silly storage bottleneck here, 16/32 GB versions with SD card slot. What IS the biggest concern with this phone is samsung's poor record of supporting non-flagship devices. But it does ship with a fully functional jelly bean unlike some other phone from some other company thats supposed to get jelly bean in january. :P

No chance this phone's price can compete in countries where google is selling the nexus 4 but it could be an attractive product in other countries depending on the price.

Uh oh. Looks like Samsung is putting the squeeze to Apple by hiking their processor prices by 20%

"Samsung has increased the price of manufacturing Apple's application processor by nearly 20 percent. The Korean daily notes that this is the first time Samsung has sought to increase pricing on the processors that go inside Apple's mobile devices, and that Apple, faced with a lack of alternatives, has accepted Samsung's demands."

I wonder if Apple will try to offset the added cost by hiking prices a tad on the end user.

Guess we'll find out soon enough.

The_Game21x

HTC Droid DNA now up for pre-order link

I think PPI has gone too far now.

1920x1080 at 5"?

To the surprise of no one, the Nexus 4 (and to a lesser extent, 7 32GB and 10) launch has been a total clusterf*ck.

To the surprise of no one, the Nexus 4 (and to a lesser extent, 7 32GB and 10) launch has been a total clusterf*ck.

Slow_Show

Love my new S3.

Any games for Android that are good? Since this is System Wars and ostensibly we talk about games? I got that latest Humble Android Bundle already.

I had a chance to try the Lumia 920 today (for a fair amount of time).

The phone is rather heavy, it also happened to be one of the best phones I've seen in terms of build quality.

The OS and response of the display was very smooth, viewing angles aren't the best, but not terrible. I never spent much time with Windows Phone 7, so I can't comment on the features introduced in Windows Phone 8.

The camera was nice, daylight photos are okay, night/dark photos are easily the best. The video quality was outstanding for a phone, one factor that left a good impression was the microphone quality.

I played with some apps, watched video and toyed with the settings, no complaints. The voice commands did the job, but are not as fluid as those seen on Android.

Nokia maps wasn't too bad, but still felt behind Google maps, however I did like the ability to download the maps for offline use.

Despite the weight, I could easily see myself using this phone if it had Android and the S4 Pro.

Overall I thought it was a great phone, but it was defiantly lacking in apps and function. I'm certain there are some who would benefit from this phone (especially at $99 on contract), but as it is, I would not.

Love my new S3.

Any games for Android that are good? Since this is System Wars and ostensibly we talk about games? I got that latest Humble Android Bundle already.

Cherokee_Jack

The top paid games category is a good way to start.

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To the surprise of no one, the Nexus 4 (and to a lesser extent, 7 32GB and 10) launch has been a total clusterf*ck.

Giancar

[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

To the surprise of no one, the Nexus 4 (and to a lesser extent, 7 32GB and 10) launch has been a total clusterf*ck.

Jonwh18

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[QUOTE="Giancar"] in which way?Giancar

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Love my new S3.

Any games for Android that are good? Since this is System Wars and ostensibly we talk about games? I got that latest Humble Android Bundle already.

Gambler_3

The top paid games category is a good way to start.

Is it? That was a terrible way to start on the App Store.

Anyway, are there any good RPGs other than Chaos Rings?

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To the surprise of no one, the Nexus 4 (and to a lesser extent, 7 32GB and 10) launch has been a total clusterf*ck.

Giancar

Long story short, very low stock combined with an undisclosed launch time (some Google CS reps said it was 12AM PST, some said 9AM PST; it ended up being just after 8:30AM PST), a first-come, first-serve sales model (no option to pre-order/back-order) and a website that buckled under the strain.

So you have a handful of people who managed to complete their order, a handful of people who still aren't sure if they completed their order, a handful of people who accidentally completed multiple orders (apparently one guy ended up with 16 phones), and a ton of people who weren't able to order and have no idea when they'll be able to buy one (since Google won't give out a firm restock date, and even if they did it seems like you'll have to go through the first-come, first-serve hassle).

Is it? That was a terrible way to start on the App Store.

Anyway, are there any good RPGs other than Chaos Rings?

Cherokee_Jack

I dont play RPGs so cant really say what else is good but found these in the top list that seem to have good reviews.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inxile.BardTale&feature=top-paid

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.square_enix.android_googleplay.FFIII_GP&feature=top-paid

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamevil.zenonia&feature=apps_topselling_paid

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftMMHM&feature=apps_topselling_paid

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.SamuraiIIAll&feature=apps_topselling_paid

and a ton of people who weren't able to order and have no idea when they'll be able to buy one (since Google won't give out a firm restock date, and even if they did it seems like you'll have to go through the first-come, first-serve hassle).Slow_Show

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Is it? That was a terrible way to start on the App Store.

Anyway, are there any good RPGs other than Chaos Rings?

Gambler_3

I dont play RPGs so cant really say what else is good but found these in the top list that seem to have good reviews.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inxile.BardTale&feature=top-paid

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.square_enix.android_googleplay.FFIII_GP&feature=top-paid

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamevil.zenonia&feature=apps_topselling_paid

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftMMHM&feature=apps_topselling_paid

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.SamuraiIIAll&feature=apps_topselling_paid

Seems like about the same situation as on the iOS side. You've got your $15 Square Enix ports, your WOW clones, your awful sucky Zenonia. Sigh.

But at least they have Dungeon Raid. I was afraid that was Apple exclusive.

Do you know if any apps might let you have the Android version for free if you already bought the iOS version? Is that a thing? I don't really want to buy my $10 crossword app again.

Only 16GB of storage for the DNA? And no upgrading it? Aww. :[

And only on Verizon. Lame.

Only 16GB of storage for the DNA? And no upgrading it? Aww. :[

And only on Verizon. Lame.

Stevo_the_gamer

Not to mention all of these phones are coming with 11-12 GB usable storage which makes it all the worse.

Do you know if any apps might let you have the Android version for free if you already bought the iOS version? Is that a thing? I don't really want to buy my $10 crossword app again.

Cherokee_Jack

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Do you know if any apps might let you have the Android version for free if you already bought the iOS version? Is that a thing? I don't really want to buy my $10 crossword app again.

Gambler_3