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Old news, but the lightning adapters has these goodies inside. Bought the adapter for the sole purpose of hooking up to the e7 shweet so this is a plus.

Bikouchu35

Nothing special, though it is interesting to see Apple using a Wolfson Charge Pump DAC even after they choose Cirrus Logic for their phones.

Implementation of a DAC is more important than the DAC itself, and this is far from ideal.

Why would you not just use the DAC in the Fiio? A lightning to USB adapter, then USB to the Fiio.

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HTC and Verizon Press Conference on November 13th.

HTC Verizon November 13th Event

This might be for the North American version of the HTC J Butterfly.

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Boy that's not good. Slate asks why MS Surface is so bad. I really wanted a real OS company to make a compelling product, I'm starting to become disappointed.
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Boy that's not good. Slate asks why MS Surface is so bad. I really wanted a real OS company to make a compelling product, I'm starting to become disappointed.musicalmac
You know that thing called Windows 8? It uses x86 hardware and can run every windows application.

Windows RT on the surface is limited to software programmed for ARM based hardware.

I've already said it countless times, Windows 8 tablets start at $499 and can do everything a desktop or laptop can.

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You know that thing called Windows 8? It uses x86 hardware and can run every windows application.

Windows RT on the surface is limited to software programmed for ARM based hardware.

I've already said it countless times, Windows 8 tablets start at $499 and can do everything a desktop or laptop can.

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Why does that make it better? Wouldn't it only be better if all those apps were optimized for a touch screen interface? In my developer circle, Windows developers aren't sold on the need for an x86 tablet, and are waiting for 3rd parties to release RT tablets. It becomes an issue of practicality, not an issue of "look what I can do."
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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

You know that thing called Windows 8? It uses x86 hardware and can run every windows application.

Windows RT on the surface is limited to software programmed for ARM based hardware.

I've already said it countless times, Windows 8 tablets start at $499 and can do everything a desktop or laptop can.

musicalmac

Why does that make it better? Wouldn't it only be better if all those apps were optimized for a touch screen interface? In my developer circle, Windows developers aren't sold on the need for an x86 tablet, and are waiting for 3rd parties to release RT tablets. It becomes an issue of practicality, not an issue of "look what I can do."

You devlope software for a living? hmmm :P My perceptions of you are ever changing. A software devloper who TA'd organo chem:P

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#2907 musicalmac  Moderator
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You devlope software for a living? hmmm :P My perceptions of you are ever changing. A software devloper who TA'd organo chem:P

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Heh, no I don't develop software for a living. Because of my interests, however, I do associate with many that do. I actually studied religion and classical languages and TA'd organic chemistry. :P
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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

You know that thing called Windows 8? It uses x86 hardware and can run every windows application.

Windows RT on the surface is limited to software programmed for ARM based hardware.

I've already said it countless times, Windows 8 tablets start at $499 and can do everything a desktop or laptop can.

musicalmac

Why does that make it better? Wouldn't it only be better if all those apps were optimized for a touch screen interface? In my developer circle, Windows developers aren't sold on the need for an x86 tablet, and are waiting for 3rd parties to release RT tablets. It becomes an issue of practicality, not an issue of "look what I can do."

It's better because you're not limited to ARM based software.

Most programs that aren't optimized for finger touch can still work very will with a pen or a KB/M.

An x86 tablet is more versatile, if someone wants to toy with apps, that's what your phone is for. With so many x86 tablets having keyboard docks or other accessories, it leaves you open with plenty of options to use the device to suit your needs.

Another factor that gets completely ignored is compatibility with hardware. Essentially every USB device can pair with your tablet, even those that require a software suit for operation.

Performance of x86 tablets are also a large factor, the weakest x86 device with Intel's Clover Trail is still more powerful than most (if not all) ARM SoCs available. The more powerful come with i5 or i7 processors (same that you would find in a laptop). Of course AMD will be entering the tablet market too with their Z series APU (likely to take on Clover Trail).

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It's better because you're not limited to ARM based software.

Most programs that aren't optimized for finger touch can still work very will with a pen or a KB/M.

An x86 tablet is more versatile, if someone wants to toy with apps, that's what your phone is for. With so many x86 tablets having keyboard docks or other accessories, it leaves you open with plenty of options to use the device to suit your needs.

Another factor that gets completely ignored is compatibility with hardware. Essentially every USB device can pair with your tablet, even those that require a software suit for operation.

Performance of x86 tablets are also a large factor, the weakest x86 device with Intel's Clover Trail is still more powerful than most (if not all) ARM SoCs available. The more powerful come with i5 or i7 processors (same that you would find in a laptop). Of course AMD will be entering the tablet market too with their Z series APU (likely to take on Clover Trail).

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Those are good answers. We'll see how it all shakes out, and whether or not it sticks with people. I would hope this approach doesn't go the way of the netbook, which enjoyed popularity for only a short period of time (thank God).
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Now that's what a I call a twist lol :P You did you went from religion to classial languages to organic chemistry? XD Seems like they don't relate in any possible way lol :P

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Actually from chemistry and biology to Latin, Greek, and religious studies. I did well in the sciences, so they asked me to TA. I just got tired of memorizing things all day long.
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Quite the change then hehe :P Especially considering you hang with developers, which do the opposite of memorizing stuff. They either know how it works or don't, that simple...shame that to know how it works you need to study, learn and actually comprehend a sh*t load of concepts lol Ah well, such is the life of a programmer! :P

How did you find Latin? Being Portuguese I kind of always wanted to try it ou, since we can understand several words and small simple phrases since Portuguese itself derives (not only) from Latin...but just learning how to pronounce the damn words seems too much of a hassle lol (even though in terms of vocalization of the words they seem also quite similar to the sounds produced in modern Portuguese). Btw, by religious studies do you mean you studied a specific religion or was it more of a broad study in theology itself?

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Latin is more practical, Greek is more fun to use, I just had an interest for languages that were the roots of other languages. And by religious studies I mean the study of many different religions, culture, history, and anthropology/sociology -- it was a pure humanities study.

Okay, off-topic is fun -- but how about those phones!?
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What to expect from the HTC/Verizon event:

HTC Droid DNA

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5inch 1920x1080 display (~440ppi) powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 Pro.

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#2916 musicalmac  Moderator
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I said it before, we're just getting started.

Apple Says Samsungs Galaxy Note, Jelly Bean Infringe Patent

Apple Inc. told a judge that Samsung Electronics Co. (005930)s Galaxy Note 10.1 device infringes its patents, and sought to add the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean operating system to an existing lawsuit against Samsung in California.Bloomberg


The case is scheduled for 2014, so we can get all upset about it now and then forget about it by next week, only to be reminded of the latest Apple vs Samsung battle again in a couple years.

So.
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But.....by 2014 isn't it quite likely that Samsung has already moved on from the Note 10.1 to whatever they want to do next likewise for the Android OS. The lawsuit won't really affect their sales, now will it? Assuming Apple wins and asks for that product to be taken off the market (plus whatever sum they ask for) it won't make much off a difference by then.Obviously if they win they can ask for 1 billion dollars again of course. But I don't really see how the Note 10.1 might break any patents this time..at least in terms of looks you can't really confuse it with an iPad can you? Maybe it's something to do how it uses the software? Would also explain why they are also mixing the OS into the lawsuit...Desmonic
I don't know yet, we'll have to see what details are released as more information is made available. You're right to think this won't effect the Note much at this point, the pace at which these trials take place is not very swift.
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This latest law suit is significant because Apple specifically names Jelly Bean, which means "Google" is not under fire directly from Apple and Microsoft at once.
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Curious to see what the heck this is all about this time :PDesmonic
Same.
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[QUOTE="Desmonic"]Curious to see what the heck this is all about this time :Pmusicalmac
Same.

I'm curious as to how the OS can possibly be infringing. JElly bean is only a minor upgrade from ICS apperently and the two different updates don't change much either way. I'm not sure what could hae been added that is infriging now that wasn't before.

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Cnet's 7 inch tablet comparisonNexus 7 Vs Ipad mini

[spoiler] nexus 7 wins :cool: [/spoiler]

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I hear u liek buttonz?

I will be getting this! :D

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In case you want to take a stand...

Originally for IOS, It now supports android too!

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$30 it is supported by butrol on the cydia store and many mapping apps on google play store.

Features

4 face buttons

dpad (stick was replaced with d pad)

two shoulder buttons

select button

SIZE! it will fit on your key chain!

protective sleeve (which doubles as a phone stand)

comes with a free GPS app for AND/IOS that will direct you to your iMpluse (which should be attached to your keys)

Also works as a remote camera button

link!

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^ That's not bad.

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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

So android is now closing in on the holy grail of iOS, the appstore revenues.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/ios-apps-still-make-more-money-but-android-apps-are-closing-in/

Boy O boy it just keeps getting better for android.

musicalmac

You would hope that with approximately 3/4ths of the world's population using some flavor of Android, that revenues would be good. As of June of this year, Apple was pulling in 71% of combined revenues from apps, which is approximately two and a half times more than Android. This really isn't good news...

I think even bigger problem is how utterly pathetic revenues from mobile apps are considering the intall bases and the fact that it seems freemium is quickly becoming the only way for devs to make any decent buck and even then it's not much. All that with rising costs of development and increasinly competiton. App market will either crash and raise from ashes drastically changed in process or it faces the future of utter mediocirity.

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LG: Hey apple I got the new nexus will you please sue me now?? I wanna become popular.

:P

Curious to see this indeed, apple cant jeopardize relations with yet another industrial heavyweight so I think apple will just let the nexus 4 live in peace just like the nexus 7.

The nexus 10 on the other hand you bet is going to be called on. :lol:

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

So android is now closing in on the holy grail of iOS, the appstore revenues.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/ios-apps-still-make-more-money-but-android-apps-are-closing-in/

Boy O boy it just keeps getting better for android.

AdrianWerner

You would hope that with approximately 3/4ths of the world's population using some flavor of Android, that revenues would be good. As of June of this year, Apple was pulling in 71% of combined revenues from apps, which is approximately two and a half times more than Android. This really isn't good news...

I think even bigger problem is how utterly pathetic revenues from mobile apps are considering the intall bases and the fact that it seems freemium is quickly becoming the only way for devs to make any decent buck and even then it's not much. All that with rising costs of development and increasinly competiton. App market will either crash and raise from ashes drastically changed in process or it faces the future of utter mediocirity.

Do we have sales figures for the top iOS games?

No paid game on android has yet crossed 5 million and very few games managed to go past 1 million. Alot of very high quality games never see half a million. Now compare this with how the big titles sell on consoles or even PC despite their steep asking price and you see how little the "serious" mobile gaming community is.

I am sure another reason why freemium games are doing better is because in-app purchases are harder to pirate.

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So nexus 4 8GB is up for pre-order in my country for......wait for it......$570. :(

The GS3 16GB is available for $500 so its not only so much more than the US price but its also not really the best value for money either.

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Torn between the iphone 5 and the nexus 4...decisions...

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Honestly if I ever need a phone just for work, I could see myself investing in a Blackberry. They may not be as great as they once were, but they still make pretty functional phones it seems, and the design itself is pretty good for work situtations. Discrete, simple but somewhat attractive. Plus they aren't that expensive. Usually well within my budget.

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I came from a Blackberry Tour, and I would advise you not to go that route... If RIM is around for another year, I'll be surprised.
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Uh oh...Apple's stock price is falling fast...

Soon, it might not be worth more than the entry level 4th gen iPad. :(

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Obama's win spooked the markets. No surprises there.
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Obama's win spooked the markets. No surprises there.musicalmac
^ The market in general was down today, but Apple was already down to ~575 even before the election. Not exactly the 900-1000 range that many investors had been hoping for.

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]

Honestly if I ever need a phone just for work, I could see myself investing in a Blackberry. They may not be as great as they once were, but they still make pretty functional phones it seems, and the design itself is pretty good for work situtations. Discrete, simple but somewhat attractive. Plus they aren't that expensive. Usually well within my budget.

Desmonic

I came from a Blackberry Tour, and I would advise you not to go that route... If RIM is around for another year, I'll be surprised.

Are they really in that bad of a shape? Damn... :S

In 2008 their share price peaked at a little under 150, now they're a little over 8. Even here in Canada, their home turf, they've lost a huge amount of ground to Apple and Google.

Everything for them is riding on the success of BB10. Even if their BB10 devices aren't doing anything better than an Android device or iPhone, it will at least be matching them. Just getting to that point might be enough for them to sustain.

So far they have the hardware for their new devices nailed, Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 Pro. As for the OS, BB10 is definatly making some leaps and bounds, but again it might not be enough.

Marketing and restoring brand image is also important. BlackBerry for the longest time was about a few premium devices, in order to expand their market, they started to create budget devices such as the BB Pearl. Instead of going for mass appeal, they should have continued to push ahead and innovate. At least then they might not have fallen so far behind the competition.

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Facetime found to be infringing on VirnetX patents, Apple ordered to pay $368 million in damages

Good artists copy great artists steal, or something.

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Okay, you can now all legitimately complain about Apple's patent for devices with rounded corners. Because it finally exists.
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Why would you not just use the DAC in the Fiio? A lightning to USB adapter, then USB to the Fiio.

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If only it was that easy.

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#2942 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Why would you not just use the DAC in the Fiio? A lightning to USB adapter, then USB to the Fiio.

Bikouchu35

If only it was that easy.

It looks pretty easy :P

LL

LL

Fiio seems rather upset that Apple used the lightning connector:

"Apple made a wrong decision, because they should known that it means all the accessory will be very expensive and end customer can't afford the price.

All MFi( Made For iDevice) licensee have to pay a lots of money to test the products and pay very high licence fee to Apple . Also Apple are limited the quantity of the licensee so the competition is not so hard as

other consumer products. the only result is that all accessory for iDevice become luxury products." feiao (Fiio on head-fi)

Anyways you'll have to get a MFi device :(

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#2943 Bikouchu35
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Meh, just as I figure when I plugged in the mini usb adapter. It doesnt work with my 4 either, but I can always use the camera connection kit loophole for ip4. Though that is another can of worms I have to deal with :\

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#2944 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Why would you not just use the DAC in the Fiio? A lightning to USB adapter, then USB to the Fiio.

NVIDIATI

If only it was that easy.

It looks pretty easy :P

LL

LL

Fiio seems rather upset that Apple used the lightning connector:

"Apple made a wrong decision, because they should known that it means all the accessory will be very expensive and end customer can't afford the price.

All MFi( Made For iDevice) licensee have to pay a lots of money to test the products and pay very high licence fee to Apple . Also Apple are limited the quantity of the licensee so the competition is not so hard as

other consumer products. the only result is that all accessory for iDevice become luxury products." feiao (Fiio on head-fi)

Anyways you'll have to get a MFi device :(

I don't get the complaint here? How is lighting any different for hardware makers then the 30 pin? Are there not any adapters?

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So angry birds space comes to WP8 finally and? Its exclusive to WP8 sorry WP 7.5 users which happen to be all the users right now lmao.

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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

If only it was that easy.

Jonwh18

It looks pretty easy :P

LL

LL

Fiio seems rather upset that Apple used the lightning connector:

"Apple made a wrong decision, because they should known that it means all the accessory will be very expensive and end customer can't afford the price.

All MFi( Made For iDevice) licensee have to pay a lots of money to test the products and pay very high licence fee to Apple . Also Apple are limited the quantity of the licensee so the competition is not so hard as

other consumer products. the only result is that all accessory for iDevice become luxury products." feiao (Fiio on head-fi)

Anyways you'll have to get a MFi device :(

I don't get the complaint here? How is lighting any different for hardware makers then the 30 pin? Are there not any adapters?

Hardware makers can't make Lightning connectors without Apple's "Made for iPod/iPhone/iPad" seal of approval, and in order to get that seal of approval, you have to pay a licensing fee and not be based in China.

A recent post from Fiio on Head-Fi implies that they aren't able to get the required security codes for proper authentication from Apple because they aren't fond of handing over such things to Chinese manufacturers.

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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

It looks pretty easy :P

LL

LL

Fiio seems rather upset that Apple used the lightning connector:

"Apple made a wrong decision, because they should known that it means all the accessory will be very expensive and end customer can't afford the price.

All MFi( Made For iDevice) licensee have to pay a lots of money to test the products and pay very high licence fee to Apple . Also Apple are limited the quantity of the licensee so the competition is not so hard as

other consumer products. the only result is that all accessory for iDevice become luxury products." feiao (Fiio on head-fi)

Anyways you'll have to get a MFi device :(

The_Game21x

I don't get the complaint here? How is lighting any different for hardware makers then the 30 pin? Are there not any adapters?

Hardware makers can't make Lightning connectors without Apple's "Made for iPod/iPhone/iPad" seal of approval, and in order to get that seal of approval, you have to pay a licensing fee and not be based in China.

A recent post from Fiio on Head-Fi implies that they aren't able to get the required security codes for proper authentication from Apple because they aren't fond of handing over such things to Chinese manufacturers.

ahh I didn't see the liscensing thing.

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#2948 Jonwh18
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so who is ogning to get an iMpuse? Its the only gamepad I would even consider for a phone because of its small size

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So angry birds space comes to WP8 finally and? Its exclusive to WP8 sorry WP 7.5 users which happen to be all the users right now lmao.

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Not suprised, starting to become disillusioned with microsoft's plan. Finding out that the surface RT makes more profit per unit than the iPAD makes me since, why do they even think they are in a position to be even bigger milkers than Apple? Why can't they just be competitive and consumer friendly.
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

So angry birds space comes to WP8 finally and? Its exclusive to WP8 sorry WP 7.5 users which happen to be all the users right now lmao.

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Not suprised, starting to become disillusioned with microsoft's plan. Finding out that the surface RT makes more profit per unit than the iPAD makes me since, why do they even think they are in a position to be even bigger milkers than Apple? Why can't they just be competitive and consumer friendly.

We're talking about Microsoft, in many ways they're just as bad as Apple.