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So if Sony charging for online is ownage does that mean the rats admit they've been getting owned 2 gens in a row and lining up for a third?Â
For only $60 a year i can look at ads and access multiplayer that is free everywhere else? Such a sweet deal.
[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]I'm just saying it how it is bro. Not trying to justify anything.RR360DDPlease don't call me bro. and hey it's one of my alts NathanDrakeSwagOkay bro you can keep saying bro if you choose but just know that I automatically assume that the level of intelligence of any who uses the word bro is right beneath that of a 3 year old Terrier
lol wow MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE LEMMINGS[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]You can. You can play splitscreen. You just don't have access to any of the XBL servers without coughing up the moneyWickerman777
Lol, you guys are so freakin' insulting when it comes to this stuff that it amazes me that you then wave your fingers in Xbox owners' faces when they say they'll laugh when you have to pay too. People are not stupid for paying for XBL. They do it because they have to. The same as when you're on a toll road and you have to cough up the fee. You don't do it because you want to or because you're dumb but because you have to if you want to move forward. And when online play starts costing money on Playstation, and it will, you guys will pay up to.
no but that's not the issue the issue is that lems are predicting they're going to claim ownage if we have to pay like they do. No one's saying if sony charges we won't pay, we're saying how is it ownage that we're now in the same situation.lol somewhere the TC is sitting and wondering why he even made this threadSuddenlySudden
He needed a break from all the ads.
[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"][QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"]lol somewhere the TC is sitting and wondering why he even made this threadRR360DD
He needed a break from all the ads.
You looking forward to all the ads you'll be getting on the PS4? :) Lems have no ammo anymore so they have to inflict their OWN systems short comings and portray them on Cows for ownage. Pitiful.[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]You looking forward to all the ads you'll be getting on the PS4? :) Lems have no ammo anymore so they have to inflict their OWN systems short comings and portray them on Cows for ownage. Pitiful. No I think its more a case of cows own ammo coming back to shoot them in the head.He needed a break from all the ads.
tyloss
[QUOTE="tyloss"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]You looking forward to all the ads you'll be getting on the PS4? :)RR360DDLems have no ammo anymore so they have to inflict their OWN systems short comings and portray them on Cows for ownage. Pitiful. No I think its more a case of cows own ammo coming back to shoot them in the head. dude just admit you didn't think this thread through and then ask a mod to lock it
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[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"]BAM THIS THREAD SHOULD END HERE. BUT IT WOULDN'Tcasharmy
It should end because some fanboy blew a gasket???.
Casharmy rages (fanboy shit usually) in most threads and it doesn't end them why would it happen now.
dude shut the hell up.  You don't need to worry about how or why I post seeing as you havn't tried to address anything I have said or the reason why I originally made my post.ÂThere is not fanboy sh!t in my post, I am just pointing out how mind numbingly stupid your fellow xbox fanboy posts are.  Are you here to join in the defense of this arguement or you just want to try to nitpick at my post while not really saying anything because I'm not a MS drone?
I don't care about your points or what you're argueing, i just find it hilarious to see you breakdown and post loads of fanboy tripe constantly. So i'm not in defense of any arguement just here for the lulz, of you and the new cow SuddenlySudden going ape shit over rumors.
Also not a lem, have you ever seem me raging like you two do over something someone said about MS (let alone a simple rumor), or have you ever seen me bashing any system?. No so stfu and keep raging buddy, keep the entertainment coming.
It would only be ownage if XBL is free. If they both require a fee then it would be even. If you mean ownage towards the die hard fanboys who bashed XBL for paying for online, then I still wouldnt call it ownage. Lemmings can't claim ownage for something Microsoft has been doing from the start, and youre pretty much admiting that paying for multiplayer is a bad thing.
Would it be ownage to Lemmings if next gen Multiplatform games look identicle on both PS4 and the 720? I dont think so. It would only be ownage if multiplatform games look better on PS4 and worse on the 720.
I see lems are still in delusional butthurt mode over the fact that they feel alone at getting owned. Grow up rodents, it's your own fault that you get owned, instead of wishing others to stoop to your level maybe you should smart up and don't let M$ own you any further. We have a saying here which is: not even God loves an idiot. Ponder on it.kuraimenDon't be so hard on yourself. Im sure God loves you too.
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Oh please, they would love it. If Sony does it, it must be good.
Epak_
Well at least they could use the money to improve the service. They would use the money for that, they would right?
You guys act like Sony doesnt already get paid for PSN. And the things that are lacking such as party chat have nothing to do with money. Vita has party chat. The reason PSN is missing some features is because the console itself cannot support them. The biggest con of the PS3 is the lack of RAM.[QUOTE="Epak_"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]
Oh please, they would love it. If Sony does it, it must be good.
Murderstyle75
Well at least they could use the money to improve the service. They would use the money for that, they would right?
You guys act like Sony doesnt already get paid for PSN. And the things that are lacking such as party chat have nothing to do with money. Vita has party chat. The reason PSN is missing some features is because the console itself cannot support them. The biggest con of the PS3 is the lack of RAM.Forgot PSN+. PS4 won't have problems with RAM, that's for sure. I don't mind paying a little monthly fee for a service I like. I already pay for netflix and dropbox.
Soooooooo much butt hurt over a hypothetical question. Cows are in true meltdown over nothing. Crying and screaming at lems over what might or might not happen.
If Sony does charge for online play, would it stop you from purchasing it?
To answer the TCs question, Sony charging for online play WOULD be the biggest ownage in SWs history. Not because Sony never said they would but because cows are ALWAYS giving lems grief that MS does.
[QUOTE="Epak_"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]
Oh please, they would love it. If Sony does it, it must be good.
Murderstyle75
Well at least they could use the money to improve the service. They would use the money for that, they would right?
You guys act like Sony doesnt already get paid for PSN. And the things that are lacking such as party chat have nothing to do with money. Vita has party chat. The reason PSN is missing some features is because the console itself cannot support them. The biggest con of the PS3 is the lack of RAM. Of course they make money or they'd charge for it. Sony doens't give ANYTHING away for free. PS1, PS2 and PS3 problems are proof of that.[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Epak_"]You guys act like Sony doesnt already get paid for PSN. And the things that are lacking such as party chat have nothing to do with money. Vita has party chat. The reason PSN is missing some features is because the console itself cannot support them. The biggest con of the PS3 is the lack of RAM. Of course they make money or they'd charge for it. Sony doens't give ANYTHING away for free. PS1, PS2 and PS3 problems are proof of that. Right. But a lot of the logic here is "They have to charge because they are losing money if they don't". Meanwhile there are things Sony is doing instead that Microsoft doesnt. I mentioned them early in this thread but unfortunatly they get ignored because facts never sit well in SW agendas. First thing is the Online Pass. On the Xbox, since a subscription is being paid, there is no pass required for first party games. Not that there are many of them anymore anyway. But for the couple that do release, they work whether the game is new or used. Sony on the other hand does require an Online Pass for the more recent first party games. While Microsoft makes no money off the preowned market for the first party, Sony does. The second thing is, Sony charges the developers for every GB of data you download. If you download a digital game or content item, not only is Sony getting their store cut but they get paid for the bandwidth used as well. They get 16 cents per GB which doesn't sound like much but if 1 million people download the same 1GB file, that's $160,000 on top of what they are already making off of it. There are also tens of millions of users meaning this little fee to the developer is paying them a fortune. In the case of free downloads like demos and free maps and items, the fee stands for the first 60 days. For paid downloads, the fee is forever. On Xbox Live, this is all free. The only thing they are being charged is a $40k fee for each patch which Sony does as well. Add in the Plus Subscription fees and all the otherwise dead games and content that are being purchased during the specisls and this is a pretty big cash cow going on. You also have to figure that because of free multiplayer and free apps, PSN is getting a lot more traffic to get sucked into this stuff than they would by making it a paid subscription. According to Forbes a couple years ago, half of all 360 consoles sold have not been taken online. It was also said that half of Microsofts money actually comes from sales on their marketplace.Well at least they could use the money to improve the service. They would use the money for that, they would right?
kingtito
Is this what it has come to in SW? Lems fantasizing others with adopt MS's pay-to-play model so they don't feel so bad about getting ripped off?
Is this what it has come to in SW? Lems fantasizing others with adopt MS's pay-to-play model so they don't feel so bad about getting ripped off?
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FragTycoon
"Hahahahaha suckers, now we're equally screwed! Â Take THAT!"
It is amusing.
Truth be told guys, next gen is gonna be even MORE embarrasingly similar than this past one.... MS and SONY are fighting for the same customer and will continue to package the same experiences for the same people with a different name on the front of the hardware... The fight will be EXTRA petty this gen :P
Truth be told guys, next gen is gonna be even MORE embarrasingly similar than this past one.... MS and SONY are fighting for the same customer and will continue to package the same experiences for the same people with a different name on the front of the hardware... The fight will be EXTRA petty this gen :P
TheEroica
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Sony put money toward the development of games like Journey and Heavy Rain meanwhile M$ uses it to advertise Kinect and milk Halo. They might share 3rd party support but that's where the similarities end. Not to metion their online approch is completely different with one offering it for free and the other one forcing you to pay even to use Netflix (which is another paid service).
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]
Truth be told guys, next gen is gonna be even MORE embarrasingly similar than this past one.... MS and SONY are fighting for the same customer and will continue to package the same experiences for the same people with a different name on the front of the hardware... The fight will be EXTRA petty this gen :P
RR360DD
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Sony put money toward the development of games like Journey and Heavy Rain meanwhile M$ uses it to advertise Kinect and milk Halo. They might share 3rd party support but that's where the similarities end. Not to mention their online approach is completely different with one offering it for free and the other one forcing you to pay even to use Netflix (which is another paid service).
So how did the 360 end up with the better library?
You're right, their online approach is different. MS have innovated in that area, Sony have copied.
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Where are the unique and innovative tittles like Journey, Heavy Rain, LBP, Valkyria Chronicles or the Goty winner Uncharted? Does the X360 even has an AAAAE? All the X360 has on those spreadsheets you guys always post are the Kinect tittles that somehow scored 8s, some first gen games that scored 8s in 2005 and some crappy indies no one cares about on XBL, so when you compare raw numbers the Xbox seems to have the better library but is just a illusion. Â :)
On the online front Sony might have copied a thing or 2 but that doesn't change the fact that M$ are ripping you off and you have no argument against it. And PS+ is very good you know. :cool:
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]
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Sony put money toward the development of games like Journey and Heavy Rain meanwhile M$ uses it to advertise Kinect and milk Halo. They might share 3rd party support but that's where the similarities end. Not to metion their online approch is completely different with one offering it for free and the other one forcing you to pay even to use Netflix (which is another paid service).
Gue1
So how did the 360 end up with the better library?
You're right, their online approach is different. MS have innovated in that area, Sony have copied.
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Where are the unique and innovative tittles like Journey, Heavy Rain, LBP, Valkyria Chronicles or the Goty winner Uncharted? Does the X360 even has an AAAAE? All the X360 has on those spreadsheets you guys always post are the Kinect tittles that somehow scored 8s, some first gen games that scored 8s in 2005 and some crappy indies no one cares about on XBL, so when you compare raw numbres the Xbox seems to have the better library. Â :)
On the online front M$ might have copied a thing or 2 but that doesn't change the fact that they are ripping you off and you have no argument against it. And PS+ is very good you know. :cool:
Lol innovative. No it does not, yet it has quite a lot more AAA, AA and A games which most definitely counts for more than one AAAA game that came out 5 years ago. Hardly any of the games are Kinect titles actually, and how can the games be crappy if they're scoring A+? Your argument doesn't make sense. Its like you're brushing off indie titles, yet you mention Journey for the PS3 lol. The hard facts are that the 360 provides more high quality games than the PS3 does.
So in your opinion, the XBL price isn't justified. Thats good to know. In my opinion, the PSN+ price isn't justified. Opinions eh ...
[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Microsoft doesnt force anybody to pay for multiplayer. They offer a service and people decide with their wallets that it is worth the money. Not sure why cows cant understand this. The service differences have nothing to do with the price though.DISSESHOWEDO
Ok, so i buy, for example the last CoD and i wanna play on-line. I pay the same price i pay for the game on ps3, but i can't touch the multiplayer if i don't have gold  ?!? Try justifying this !
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The 360 has not a better library you delusional Lem. Any real gamer would rather have the quality +variety of the PS3 library than the rehashes of a couple of franchises +kinect of the 360 library. Stop relying on numbers and look at the actual real world so that you can stop living in delusion.[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]
So how did the 360 end up with the better library?
You're right, their online approach is different. MS have innovated in that area, Sony have copied.
RR360DD
"look at the actual real world" Very good piece of advice. I suggest you take it.
The amount of A, AA and AAA games that the 360 has that the PS3 doesn't do not equate to just rehashes and Kinect games. It appears you're the delusional one.
And how many of these games are still active? I mean how much would it suck buying a 3 to 7.5 year old critically acclaimed title only to find out there is not enough of community if any at all to still justify that AAA score. And some games don't even have online support anymore. Can we still use any of these titles in 2013 to offset all the Kinect focus if people can no longer play them or if it takes 20 minutes just to start one game?Soooooooo much butt hurt over a hypothetical question. Cows are in true meltdown over nothing. Crying and screaming at lems over what might or might not happen.
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If Sony does charge for online play, would it stop you from purchasing it?
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To answer the TCs question, Sony charging for online play WOULD be the biggest ownage in SWs history. Not because Sony never said they would but because cows are ALWAYS giving lems grief that MS does.
kingtito
You kicked in the head or something, cows crying ?!? One of the biggest lems created the thread, so who's crying, i'll tell you, lems for the whole gen !
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]And how many of these games are still active? I mean how much would it suck buying a 3 to 7.5 year old critically acclaimed title only to find out there is not enough of community if any at all to still justify that AAA score. And some games don't even have online support anymore. Can we still use any of these titles in 2013 to offset all the Kinect focus if people can no longer play them or if it takes 20 minutes just to start one game? You are grasping by assuming every game back then had tacked on MP. But many of them did but had shitty campaigns if any at all. And others are no longer even in print meaning unless you want to lower yourself to Thrift Shop shopping, you are not buying them unless available digitally. And even then. There are some that are not even found at Gsmestop anymore and if they are, you have to pay this "Rare" price that is higher than the lastMSRP was. If somebody wants to sell them, Gamestop offers a dollar or two. The problem with most Lems is, they want to include every title on the list whether the multiplayer is active or not or whether the game is still even available for purchase."look at the actual real world" Very good piece of advice. I suggest you take it.
The amount of A, AA and AAA games that the 360 has that the PS3 doesn't do not equate to just rehashes and Kinect games. It appears you're the delusional one.
ImJESUS-PROam
 so who's crying, i'll tell you, lems for the whole gen !
DISSESHOWEDO
Except during that brief little period commonly refereed to as the years 2005-2008 when lems were on top of the world and cows were on anti depressants. Â Lems didn't start getting the short end until 2010.
Lems owned the first half of the gen. Â Cows owned the 2nd. Â With a little overlap in the middle.
But even then cows did the most crying by far.
Funny that the PS3 turned out to be the best console yet cows still shed the most tears even today.
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 so who's crying, i'll tell you, lems for the whole gen !
Wiimotefan
Except during that brief little period commonly refereed to as the years 2005-2008 when lems were on top of the world and cows were on anti depressants. Â Lems didn't start getting the short end until 2010.
Lems owned the first half of the gen. Â Cows owned the 2nd. Â With a little overlap in the middle.
But even then cows did the most crying by far.
Funny that the PS3 turned out to be the best console yet cows still shed the most tears even today.
Yeah but now cows are cured and lems are left to rott in the same asylum !
[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="Gue1"]
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Sony put money toward the development of games like Journey and Heavy Rain meanwhile M$ uses it to advertise Kinect and milk Halo. They might share 3rd party support but that's where the similarities end. Not to metion their online approch is completely different with one offering it for free and the other one forcing you to pay even to use Netflix (which is another paid service).
kuraimen
So how did the 360 end up with the better library?
You're right, their online approach is different. MS have innovated in that area, Sony have copied.
The 360 has not a better library you delusional Lem. Any real gamer would rather have the quality +variety of the PS3 library than the rehashes of a couple of franchises +kinect of the 360 library. Stop relying on numbers and look at the actual real world so that you can stop living in delusion.I enjoyed and spent more time with crackdown than I did with the uncharted series combined... do you see where the issues with your logic take place? The only way to quantify the overall libraries is through the numbers... SOny has beaten MS over the past few years to which your point has credence (though sony lost 2012 pretty handily). There is no way to quantify personal tastes as fact and thus we use numbers.
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[QUOTE="DISSESHOWEDO"]
 so who's crying, i'll tell you, lems for the whole gen !
DISSESHOWEDO
Except during that brief little period commonly refereed to as the years 2005-2008 when lems were on top of the world and cows were on anti depressants. Â Lems didn't start getting the short end until 2010.
Lems owned the first half of the gen. Â Cows owned the 2nd. Â With a little overlap in the middle.
But even then cows did the most crying by far.
Funny that the PS3 turned out to be the best console yet cows still shed the most tears even today.
Yeah but now cows are cured and lems are left to rott in the same asylum !
I'm not really down with any fanboyism tbh, but I do have a difficult time seeing how someone could be proud of being a lem these days.
[QUOTE="Wickerman777"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"] So people buy PS3 insted of 360 because free multiplayer and there people who willing to buy PSN PlusShadowriverUB
Whatever. You guys are in denial. Get ready for it cuz it's coming.
Denial of what? Payed PS4 multiplayer for now it's just lems wet dream, they want cows to suffer as they doYou know what they say, misery loves company :P
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