Sony charging for online play next gen would be the biggest case of ownage ever

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Thats what I think. Oh boy those cow tears would be delicious.

What do you think would be the biggest case of ownage on SW:

• Sony charging for oniine play with the PS4
• Microsoft's next console requiring an online connection to work
• FF Versus going multiplat
• Wii U takes off and consistently outsells the PS4/720

And any more you can think of ...

SuddenlySudden

This pretty much sums what I think will happen if Sony charges. The cows no matter what will find a way to justify Sony charging and they will still find reasons why Microsoft is bad for it. They will pretty much be their normal hypocritical selves.

As long as they keep the price of the console is low , they could charge. There's a lot of potential money to bring in. They don't have to charge $60 for it though , lololololololololololol. 

Not gonna happen, basic MP will always be free on PSN. Not everyone is M$, Steam is free and is better than Xbox Live in every way. You don't have pay for online to get a good online service. M$ has successfully brainwashed you lemmings into thinking you need to pay for online but Sony and Valve show otherwise.

#ThankyouSonyandValve

So Lems are now using a hypothetical situation created by TC as ownage?

Microsoft needs to get you guys some more games post-haste.

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It's pretty self explanatory.

HaRmLeSS_RaGe

It costs money to run and upgrade these services, that's why Microsoft charge (and also make a profit on it). $ony couldn't really charge because a few years ago their online service was miles behind LIVE. So $ony lose money on PSN.

Even when this is the case the drones still think it should be free and think Microsoft are just robbing people.

However i'm sure if $ony do charge next gen most of the drones will pay for it and find some way to justify it, most likely saying it's all Microsoft's fault, as we have seen already in this thread.

You frecking dumb fvck ididot what dose XBL have to do with Sony charging for provideing an online service if your initial argument for defending why MS charge for online is that, and I quote, "it cost money to run and upgrade these services"?

What kind of hypocritical mind trick fanboy mumbo jumbo logic are you t@rdlems trying to spin here?  Let's not forget that MS started the generation before last with an online service that was bare to the bones and MS still started off chargeing $50 a year.  

This whole thread is hypocritical and idiotic but your post takes the cake trying to make the argument that Sony couldn't charge because of XBL.  Sony could have charged and justified it by saying that it costs money for them to provide those services as well and the fact that MS did it the gen before last BUT THEY DIDN'T.  There is NO logical counter argement you can make against this so stop trying to pull fanboy s!ht out your ass.

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[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"] Or maybe it was free because that was included with the PS3's initial high price? And also with your logic....you do realize that XBL started out with nothing with the original xbox right? and didn't MS still charge for it?SuddenlySudden

No I don't think it was included in the PS3 price. And yes LIVE was quite bare bones on the OG Xbox but it still cost MSFT half a billion dollars to set up as has been pointed out above. The main purpose of these companies is to make money not provide charity.

charging people psn+ for access to a setting that turns on your console in the middle of the day to check for updates is pretty bad. That sir is what I call true greed.  Low has MS if not lower

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It costs money to run and upgrade these services, that's why Microsoft charge (and also make a profit on it). $ony couldn't really charge because a few years ago their online service was miles behind LIVE. So $ony lose money on PSN.

 

Even when this is the case the drones still think it should be free and think Microsoft are just robbing people.

 

However i'm sure if $ony do charge next gen most of the drones will pay for it and find some way to justify it, most likely saying it's all Microsoft's fault, as we have seen already in this thread.

HaRmLeSS_RaGe

Cost of servers

Developer salary

Paying for timed exclusivity deals

Etc etc

These things cost money to create, maintain and upgrade, they don't just auto magically appear and work. The services are more than just P2P gaming. If you think otherwise then you are the one that sounds ridiculous.

[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"]BAM THIS THREAD SHOULD END HERE. BUT IT WOULDN'TSnugenz

It should end because some fanboy blew a gasket???.

Casharmy rages (fanboy shit usually) in most threads and it doesn't end them why would it happen now.

There is not fanboy sh!t in my post, I am just pointing out how mind numbingly stupid your fellow xbox fanboy posts are.  Are you here to join in the defense of this arguement or you just want to try to nitpick at my post while not really saying anything because I'm not a MS drone?

Ok, No.

How is it ownage that they gave us a whole gen of free online? I've been paying for PSN+ for 2 years now, so I wont really have a problem on the PS4 if its worth it, unlike LIVE.

Back in February 20, when they showed all those new PSN features it was pretty obvious that they'll be charging for online. There is no way they are going to offer all those sharing features for free when its going to cost them huge $ to provide that to us.

The only way it would be ownage is if Sony charges for online and then M$ comes out and makes LIVE (full acces to everything) free.

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It does cost money, MS invested half a billion is setting up XBL in 2002, back when online on the PS2 was pretty much non-existant. Kutaragi didn't believe in online play, hence pratically no progress in the area when the PS3 launched. If I recall correctly, PSN didn't even have a universal friends list when it launched :lol: So what exactly would have Sony charged for? There was no ecosystem like there was with XBL that re-launced a year earlier.

PSN only became a worty online service in 2009, and tell me this, what would cause more of a backlash? Sony deciding to charge mid-generation for online, thus basically forcing anyone who bought a PS3 prior to that to either pay or do without online play

OR

Sony announcing that online play will cost money on the PS4 (which might I add has an impressive looking online service) thus giving people the choice BEFORE they purchase the console.

This is just a hypothetical thread. No ones saying they will charge, but to say its impossible is just fanboy dreams.

RR360DD

First of all before I rip you to shreads....

1.  tell me what does any of the added services have to do with the basic underlying fact that the reason MS holds the p2p  ability to play games online ransom!!!!

 :o TO MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR FOR YOU, IF YOU ARE ARGUING THE SERVICES ARE WHAT THE CHARGE IS FOR WHY THEN IS THE ABILITY TO SIMPLY PLAY ONLINE NOT FREE?????????? (yes you are going to sound stupid when you start backraracking as I point it out with each DC response)

2. You asked what sony could charge for?  Are you stupid..lol nvr mind let's just point out something else that we already know.. :o THEY CHARGE FOR THE ABILITY TO PLAY GAMES ONLINE...:| same as MS...NEXT

3. "PSN only became a worty online service in 2009"....You personal estimation of what PSN is or isn't worth has no factual bearing in this argument...next.

4.  I never said it was impossible for Sony to charge, but I do think its telling of what kind of fanboys you lemmings are praying to the heavens that this happens just to have some kind of vendicatin becuase you guys have been the ididots that have been paying and justifying this crap since the generation before last.  If Sony charges it's not a good thing for gamers...same as it has always been for MS with 360, what the hell is your arguement here?

LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR FOR YOU...FEW IF ANY SONY FANS WOULD BE DEFENDING THE ACT SIMPLY BECAUSE SONY DID IT.  I konw I won't be praising it like lems here do just because it's their favorite company or becuase you guys have stocks invested and only interested in personal gain despite degrading the whole of gaming in the process.

1. Actually online games are client hosted. And there are other aspects to online play such as leaderboards, stat tracking etc. that are all server based.

2. PSN service was so non-existant at launch that it seemed like there was literally nothing tangable to charge for. Games at launch handed their own online, compared to XBL where it all fell under the same tree. That the difference, if you can't understand that then I'm sorry. Fact is, MS have got away with charging for online because there was a clear and evident system behind it, whether the current subscription model is right or not.

3. It did. Have you even had a PS3 since launch. It seems to me you havent - either that or your a blinder fanboy that I thought.

4. Who's praying? I was just asking which hypothetical situation would bring more LOLs. I think there possibility is there, so I listed it.

"FEW IF ANY SONY FANS WOULD BE DEFENDING THE ACT SIMPLY BECAUSE SONY DID IT"

YEAH RIGHT :lol: They will eventually. But the initial cow tears will be DELICIOUS

1. xbl is p2p online....also what dose leaderbards have to do with charging people money to use?  none the less, none of that is needed if all you want is to play games online.  Deflecting failure you never answered the question becuase you didn't have an answer GG...next

2. PSN service was so non-existant at launch....wait what?  PS3 launced with Resistance fall of Man with 40 player online matches with dedicated servers Has any Halo game been on dedicated servers or had more than 16 players online????????  FAIL...NEXT.

3. Ok so you are just being stupid now and trying to play opinino wars...Hows this for my opinion then, xbl isn't and never was worth a damn and charging for basic online service is a joke.  next

4. There is no "lols" only stupidity shown by lemmings who think that it will be funny if this happens when the whole gaming industry will be cheapend and degraded because of it.  

The "cow tears" you are imagining would be honest gamers who would upset that a basic gaming fuction has been taken away from them under a false "service label" It would be downgrading the game industry as a whole and gaming would take a dive, you lemmings are literlly the only iditots who would think this is a  good  thing. 

Complete fail want to try again?

Thats what I think. Oh boy those cow tears would be delicious.

What do you think would be the biggest case of ownage on SW:

• Sony charging for oniine play with the PS4
• Microsoft's next console requiring an online connection to work
• FF Versus going multiplat
• Wii U takes off and consistently outsells the PS4/720

And any more you can think of ...

I think one of the biggest was the FF13 debacle. The meltdown was pretty hilarious.

Oh please, they would love it. If Sony does it, it must be good.

FF Versus becoming Wii U exclusive.

I think one of the biggest was the FF13 debacle. The meltdown was pretty hilarious.

lundy86_4

Oh please, they would love it. If Sony does it, it must be good.

Michael0134567

Oh please, they would love it. If Sony does it, it must be good.

Michael0134567

Kuri says he would abandon playstation if they did it but I don't believe him lol

If the 720 has more exclusives that will be the best ownage.Miketheman83

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Oh please, they would love it. If Sony does it, it must be good.

RR360DD

Kuri says he would abandon playstation if they did it but I don't believe him lol

Lol what kind of cow is he?

FF Versus becoming Wii U exclusive.

DJ-Lafleur

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Oh please, they would love it. If Sony does it, it must be good.

Kaze_no_Mirai

For gamers, by gamers.

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

FF Versus becoming Wii U exclusive.

Vyse_Legends

LOL gamespot would probably have to be shutdown to try and contain the massive amounts of salt and butthurt that would result.

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FF Versus becoming Wii U exclusive.

DJ-Lafleur

LOL gamespot would probably have to be shutdown to try and contain the massive amounts of salt and butthurt that would result.

Fanboys are everywhere on the internet!:o

Thats what I think. Oh boy those cow tears would be delicious.

What do you think would be the biggest case of ownage on SW:

• Sony charging for oniine play with the PS4
• Microsoft's next console requiring an online connection to work
• FF Versus going multiplat
• Wii U takes off and consistently outsells the PS4/720

And any more you can think of ...

RR360DD

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Thats what I think. Oh boy those cow tears would be delicious.

What do you think would be the biggest case of ownage on SW:

• Sony charging for oniine play with the PS4
• Microsoft's next console requiring an online connection to work
• FF Versus going multiplat
• Wii U takes off and consistently outsells the PS4/720

And any more you can think of ...

SuddenlySudden

[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Thats what I think. Oh boy those cow tears would be delicious.

What do you think would be the biggest case of ownage on SW:

• Sony charging for oniine play with the PS4
• Microsoft's next console requiring an online connection to work
• FF Versus going multiplat
• Wii U takes off and consistently outsells the PS4/720

And any more you can think of ...

mems_1224

[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"][QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

 

:roll:

 

It's pretty self explanatory.

HaRmLeSS_RaGe

It costs money to run and upgrade these services, that's why Microsoft charge (and also make a profit on it). $ony couldn't really charge because a few years ago their online service was miles behind LIVE. So $ony lose money on PSN.

Even when this is the case the drones still think it should be free and think Microsoft are just robbing people.

However i'm sure if $ony do charge next gen most of the drones will pay for it and find some way to justify it, most likely saying it's all Microsoft's fault, as we have seen already in this thread.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

1. Actually online games are client hosted. And there are other aspects to online play such as leaderboards, stat tracking etc. that are all server based.

2. PSN service was so non-existant at launch that it seemed like there was literally nothing tangable to charge for. Games at launch handed their own online, compared to XBL where it all fell under the same tree. That the difference, if you can't understand that then I'm sorry. Fact is, MS have got away with charging for online because there was a clear and evident system behind it, whether the current subscription model is right or not.

3. It did. Have you even had a PS3 since launch. It seems to me you havent - either that or your a blinder fanboy that I thought.

4. Who's praying? I was just asking which hypothetical situation would bring more LOLs. I think there possibility is there, so I listed it.

"FEW IF ANY SONY FANS WOULD BE DEFENDING THE ACT SIMPLY BECAUSE SONY DID IT"

YEAH RIGHT :lol: They will eventually. But the initial cow tears will be DELICIOUS

RR360DD

1. xbl is p2p online....also what dose leaderbards have to do with charging people money to use?  none the less, none of that is needed if all you want is to play games online.  Deflecting failure you never answered the question becuase you didn't have an answer GG...next

2. PSN service was so non-existant at launch....wait what?  PS3 launced with Resistance fall of Man with 40 player online matches with dedicated servers FAIL...NEXT.

3. Ok so you are just being stupid now and trying to play opinino wars...Hows this for my opinion then, xbl isn't and never was worth a damn and charging for basic online service is a joke.  next

4. There is no "lols" only stupidity shown by lemmings who think that it will be funny if this happens when the whole gaming industry will be cheapend and degraded because of it.  

The "cow tears" you are imagining would be honest gamers who would upset that a basic gaming fuction has been taken away from them under a false "service label" It would be downgrading the game industry as a whole and gaming would take a dive, you lemmings are literlly the only iditots who would think this is a  good  thing. 

Complete fail want to try again?

1. *sign* Still getting confused? Its not p2p, games are client hosted. The XBL service is server based. My point was that there are still XBL servers - there are still XBL data centres that have to relay certain information. Microsoft don't charge for literally nothing. As I've said numerous times before, hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars has gone into XBL from Microsoft.

2. *second sigh* You just backed up my point. Games handled their own online. I know Resistance had online, I bought the game. But there was no consistent online system between games. That was my point.

3. Its nothing to do with opinion. PSN severly lacked in everything until 2009 and Sony got their act together. Do you remember the MGS4 online debacle? I do. I remember having to jump through around 100 hoops to get that set up online. Not even a diehard cow would defend that, so don't try.

LOL nah, gamers would just pay or else move to PC where its an open system. Cows would eat their own words, and it would be pretty funny might I add.

not going to keep repeating my self...but with this last post of yours I can conclude

You are an idiot

So you're admitting Lems are getting massively owned by M$ charging for Live right?

[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Thats what I think. Oh boy those cow tears would be delicious.

What do you think would be the biggest case of ownage on SW:

• Sony charging for oniine play with the PS4
• Microsoft's next console requiring an online connection to work
• FF Versus going multiplat
• Wii U takes off and consistently outsells the PS4/720

And any more you can think of ...

CanYouDiglt

This pretty much sums what I think will happen if Sony charges. The cows no matter what will find a way to justify Sony charging and they will still find reasons why Microsoft is bad for it. They will pretty much be their normal hypocritical selves.

If the 720 has more exclusives that will be the best ownage.Miketheman83

I am buying both systems, evantually.

I can tell you this 100% sure Sony will have much more exclusives next gen. Hell Sony and other third party are still pumping out exclusives on PS3 in 2013. Xbox 360 is already dead with Exclusive games. I predict MS will yet again have a few of the top shooters.

So

Top FPS's or TPS's Next Gen = Next Xbox>>>>>>>>>>PS4.

All Other Games Next Gen = PS4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Next Xbox.

I hope Sony wont charge for online play with PS4... we already have MS doing that !!

The mental gymnastics used to justify it will be worthy of a scientific study :lol:

Yeah, it would be pretty hilarious, but I don't think they will charge for it. PlayStation Plus will still be used for those who want more content, and leave PSN as a free service by default.

Steam is also free, so I think Sony will stay where they are with PSN. By looking at other services, it seems that Microsoft is doing it wrong by charging for Xbox Live.

The mental gymnastics used to justify it will be worthy of a scientific study :lol:

HaRmLeSS_RaGe

[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Thats what I think. Oh boy those cow tears would be delicious.

What do you think would be the biggest case of ownage on SW:

• Sony charging for oniine play with the PS4
• Microsoft's next console requiring an online connection to work
• FF Versus going multiplat
• Wii U takes off and consistently outsells the PS4/720

And any more you can think of ...

mems_1224

The biggest case of ownage ever happened this gen and was the lems getting ripped off of millions of dollars while brainwashing them into defending their own rip off. It was something to ponder on what we've become as a species.kuraimen

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The mental gymnastics used to justify it will be worthy of a scientific study :lol:

SuddenlySudden

I agree but the drone army doesn't. They seem to think it should cost $ony to provide, maintain and upgrade PSN :?

[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

The mental gymnastics used to justify it will be worthy of a scientific study :lol:

SuddenlySudden

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]The biggest case of ownage ever happened this gen and was the lems getting ripped off of millions of dollars while brainwashing them into defending their own rip off. It was something to ponder on what we've become as a species.SuddenlySudden