LOL consoles still can't run Crysis 2. Even after being dumbed down.

PC can't run Halo 3.

2-10-08

Are you sure? i bet we see 360emulator out there if we look for it:P

If gaming computers were better more people would have them

done deal, consoles are better

of corse for the money.... PCs are better... duh

someone said consoles are the poor mans PC... kinda true

cheap computers that will rin todays games will not run tomorrows games the same, consoles will always run the games the best they can

If gaming computers were better more people would have them

done deal, consoles are better

of corse for the money.... PCs are better... duh

someone said consoles are the poor mans PC... kinda true

cheap computers that will rin todays games will not run tomorrows games the same, consoles will always run the games the best they can

mejiseike

If gaming computers were better more people would have them

done deal, consoles are better

of corse for the money.... PCs are better... duh

someone said consoles are the poor mans PC... kinda true

cheap computers that will rin todays games will not run tomorrows games the same, consoles will always run the games the best they can

mejiseike

[QUOTE="mejiseike"]

If gaming computers were better more people would have them

done deal, consoles are better

of corse for the money.... PCs are better... duh

someone said consoles are the poor mans PC... kinda true

cheap computers that will rin todays games will not run tomorrows games the same, consoles will always run the games the best they can

Iantheone

A lot of people don't even know you can play these big games on PC's. It all comes down to consumer ignorance.

Advertising TV and commericials tell people what they should like, and since half of the US(alone - yes I know, there are more countries than the USA, I'm just using it as an example) is into shallow action and sex addiction, it creates a huge mass market. Since most commercials will either utilize action or sex for video games, of course they are going to sell. Especially to all the casuals who think, "wow, that looks cool!" after seeing a CoD commercial with no gameplay whatsoever.

[QUOTE="mejiseike"]

If gaming computers were better more people would have them

done deal, consoles are better

of corse for the money.... PCs are better... duh

someone said consoles are the poor mans PC... kinda true

cheap computers that will rin todays games will not run tomorrows games the same, consoles will always run the games the best they can

Iantheone

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="mejiseike"]

If gaming computers were better more people would have them

done deal, consoles are better

of corse for the money.... PCs are better... duh

someone said consoles are the poor mans PC... kinda true

cheap computers that will rin todays games will not run tomorrows games the same, consoles will always run the games the best they can

Mrmccormo

And PCs have even more games that cannot be played on consoles. Whats your point? And its not a myth. Its probably the biggest advantage that consoles have over PC: Ease of use. Iantheone

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]And PCs have even more games that cannot be played on consoles. Whats your point? And its not a myth. Its probably the biggest advantage that consoles have over PC: Ease of use. Mrmccormo

Exactly, it all comes down to sheep buying things that the media tells them to buy.

Many people didn't even know what Crysis was and still don't for that matter. I told about 5 people at work(these are regular video gamers who have either a PS3 or 360) about Crysis 2 and they had no idea what Crysis even was.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]And PCs have even more games that cannot be played on consoles. Whats your point? And its not a myth. Its probably the biggest advantage that consoles have over PC: Ease of use. Mrmccormo

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

PC can't run Halo 3.

DragonfireXZ95

Why would PC want to? The game isn't that great. :?

im pretty sure if i can max out crysis warhead with my 8800 gt i could atleast max out crysis 2 dx9 at 1024x768 atleast.thcxanthrax420

An 8800gt cannot max crysis. Well i guess it can if you wanna play at 15fps. However it will be able to play Crysis 2 on the lower end settings(Which do not look bad at all from seeing the beta)

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"][QUOTE="Iantheone"]And PCs have even more games that cannot be played on consoles. Whats your point? And its not a myth. Its probably the biggest advantage that consoles have over PC: Ease of use. DragonfireXZ95

Exactly, it all comes down to sheep buying things that the media tells them to buy.

Many people didn't even know what Crysis was and still don't for that matter. I told about 5 people at work(these are regular video gamers who have either a PS3 or 360) about Crysis 2 and they had no idea what Crysis even was.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

PC can't run Halo 3.

Ravensmash

Why would PC want to? The game isn't that great. :?

Because it's compared to console games. Try comparing it to PC games.

I'd like to see how Halo: Reach fares if it was released on PC.

I bet you it wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is on 360, in fact, it probably wouldn't get the same scores either.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"] PC has more games than consoles within certain genres, but where is your abundance of platformers, 3rd person shooters, sports games, racing games, etc? My point is that PC is not the be-all-and-end-all system. If you game only on PC, you miss a ton. Yeah, ease of use is why people skip out on PCs. Right. Because consumers think to themselves "Gee, I'd love to play Halo Reach on my PC, but I guess console would just be easier. I'll get a 360". Nope, it's because consoles do a much better job of attracting consumers because of their mass-advertised exclusives.Mrmccormo

Exactly, it all comes down to sheep buying things that the media tells them to buy.

Many people didn't even know what Crysis was and still don't for that matter. I told about 5 people at work(these are regular video gamers who have either a PS3 or 360) about Crysis 2 and they had no idea what Crysis even was.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="Tetrarch9"]

I really don't care what your expensive PC rigs are capable of. Playing Games Like Uncharted and Gears of War in 1080p on a 42" is good enough for me.

tubbyc

Cosnoles don't even do true HD and Gears and UC2 are far from have great graphics.

Woah you're extremely hard to please.:shock:

Well uh...I play PC.

Anything on console looks terrible to me because of the overall less quality. When I start playing on a console I can barely see anything because of the lack of AA, lower res, and everything just looks plain fuzzy and ugly.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Why would PC want to? The game isn't that great. :?

DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="tubbyc"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Cosnoles don't even do true HD and Gears and UC2 are far from have great graphics.

Jebus213

Woah you're extremely hard to please.:shock:

Well uh...I play PC.

Anything on console looks terrible to me because of the overall less quality. When I start playing on a console I can barely see anything because of the lack of AA, lower res, and everything just looks plain fuzzy and ugly.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Isn't that great? That's why it has tons of critical praise, a still active online community and a 94 metacritic ;)Ravensmash

Considering the games available, yes there is.

Team Fortress 2 is around 10 times better than the console versions. Same with L4D2, any Valve game for that matter.

We have more exclusive multiplayer first person shooters that actually have good multiplayer. like Red Orchestra 1 and 2, Counter-Strike and CS:S, Natural Selection 1 and 2, Battlefield series(the latest with BF3 with 64 player support, unlike the consoles and including BF2 which still has a ton of players), Shattered Horizon, Crysis Wars, etc.

Sure, we have our mass markets on PC that only plays CoD games, but those are mostly the people who have no idea what a lot of the games I listed are.

On the PC we have more choices for quality multiplayer games, it's a fact.

And I don't want to hear you combining PS3 and 360 games, keep the platforms individual, or else you're just proving how much the PC is ahead if you have to combine 2 platforms.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Why would PC want to? The game isn't that great. :?

DragonfireXZ95

Because it's compared to console games. Try comparing it to PC games.

I'd like to see how Halo: Reach fares if it was released on PC.

I bet you it wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is on 360, in fact, it probably wouldn't get the same scores either.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Because it's compared to console games. Try comparing it to PC games.DragonfireXZ95

Considering the games available, yes there is.

Team Fortress 2 is around 10 times better than the console versions. Same with L4D2, any Valve game for that matter.

We have more exclusive multiplayer first person shooters that actually have good multiplayer. like Red Orchestra 1 and 2, Counter-Strike and CS:S, Natural Selection 1 and 2, Battlefield series(the latest with BF3 with 64 player support, unlike the consoles and including BF2 which still has a ton of players), Shattered Horizon, Crysis Wars, etc.

Sure, we have our mass markets on PC that only plays CoD games, but those are mostly the people who have no idea what a lot of the games I listed are.

On the PC we have more choices for quality multiplayer games, it's a fact.

And I don't want to hear you combining PS3 and 360 games, keep the platforms individual, or else you're just proving how much the PC is ahead if you have to combine 2 platforms.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Isn't that great? That's why it has tons of critical praise, a still active online community and a 94 metacritic ;)lowe0

Because it's compared to console games. Try comparing it to PC games.

I'd like to see how Halo: Reach fares if it was released on PC.

I bet you it wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is on 360, in fact, it probably wouldn't get the same scores either.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] :lol: Ok, now I'm not sure if you're being serious. You seem to be in the mindset that there is some massive standards gap, when in reality there isn't.

Ravensmash

Considering the games available, yes there is.

Team Fortress 2 is around 10 times better than the console versions. Same with L4D2, any Valve game for that matter.

We have more exclusive multiplayer first person shooters that actually have good multiplayer. like Red Orchestra 1 and 2, Counter-Strike and CS:S, Natural Selection 1 and 2, Battlefield series(the latest with BF3 with 64 player support, unlike the consoles and including BF2 which still has a ton of players), Shattered Horizon, Crysis Wars, etc.

Sure, we have our mass markets on PC that only plays CoD games, but those are mostly the people who have no idea what a lot of the games I listed are.

On the PC we have more choices for quality multiplayer games, it's a fact.

And I don't want to hear you combining PS3 and 360 games, keep the platforms individual, or else you're just proving how much the PC is ahead if you have to combine 2 platforms.

They do for me. Are you talking about the gameplay or the quality of the games?

Sure the quality of Halo is there, I won't deny that. However, I find the gameplay boring and outdated.

And why would those exclusive PC FPS games make a dent on Halo 3's success? That's the reason Halo is so popular on consoles, because there isn't that much choice otherwise.

[QUOTE="thcxanthrax420"]im pretty sure if i can max out crysis warhead with my 8800 gt i could atleast max out crysis 2 dx9 at 1024x768 atleast.Crypt_mx

An 8800gt cannot max crysis. Well i guess it can if you wanna play at 15fps. However it will be able to play Crysis 2 on the lower end settings(Which do not look bad at all from seeing the beta)

For those of you who haven't seen the Crysis 2 road rage video, check it out here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UUrXPZcKh0

Firstly i would like to start by saying that the framerate is low from beginning to end in the video. My main problem can be found about 55 seconds in to the video to about 58 seconds.

Go look now.

Check out how the rocks are rendered in directly in front of him, literally 5 feet away.

I went to do some digging and have found that this problem is NOT in the leaked version of the PC beta when played on the highest settings.

I bring this up because it seems alot of gamers are convinced that their xbox or playstation has power that is anywhere close to a PC. I dont point this out to put people down or hate, i love the consoles and game on them.

Just know that the consoles are barely capable of running crysis 2, having to sacrifice quality in order to work. When an extremely old beta version on the PC looks and performs better than a much newer revison on the consoles, the truth is unaviodable.

[QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

For those of you who haven't seen the Crysis 2 road rage video, check it out here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UUrXPZcKh0

Firstly i would like to start by saying that the framerate is low from beginning to end in the video. My main problem can be found about 55 seconds in to the video to about 58 seconds.

Go look now.

Check out how the rocks are rendered in directly in front of him, literally 5 feet away.

I went to do some digging and have found that this problem is NOT in the leaked version of the PC beta when played on the highest settings.

I bring this up because it seems alot of gamers are convinced that their xbox or playstation has power that is anywhere close to a PC. I dont point this out to put people down or hate, i love the consoles and game on them.

Just know that the consoles are barely capable of running crysis 2, having to sacrifice quality in order to work. When an extremely old beta version on the PC looks and performs better than a much newer revison on the consoles, the truth is unaviodable.

iwasgood2u

Wrong. The Killzone developers are good at optimizing games for the ps3, attemptina a PC game would be a mess. Also KZ3 isnt even close to Crysis 1 graphically, they would need to do alot of work.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="tubbyc"]

Woah you're extremely hard to please.:shock:

Ravensmash

Well uh...I play PC.

Anything on console looks terrible to me because of the overall less quality. When I start playing on a console I can barely see anything because of the lack of AA, lower res, and everything just looks plain fuzzy and ugly.

So anyway the picture quality on consoles looks horrible right? RIGHT!

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Because it's compared to console games. Try comparing it to PC games.

I'd like to see how Halo: Reach fares if it was released on PC.

I bet you it wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is on 360, in fact, it probably wouldn't get the same scores either.

DragonfireXZ95

1. Someone pointed out that Crysis 2 runs poorly on consoles.
2. Someone pointed out that Halo 3 doesn't run at all on consoles.
3. You pointed out that you didn't think the game was all that great.
4. Someone pointed out that the game was well reviewed.
5. You pointed out that the standards are different between PC and consoles.
6. I pointed out that, while the standards between platforms are relative, enjoyment is absolute.
7. You pointed out... well, nothing. I don't actually see a point anywhere in your post.

So, let's set aside whether you were talking about me and focus solely on my argument, that good games are good regardless of platform. If you'd like to provide a counter-argument, I'm listening. If you'd prefer to talk about me, I'm sure there are several forums around the internet dedicated to discussing my general awesomeness; I suggest you seek one out.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Fun is fun regardless of platform. The existence of the PC doesn't undo the enjoyment I got out of playing Reach.lowe0

1. Someone pointed out that Crysis 2 runs poorly on consoles.
2. Someone pointed out that Halo 3 doesn't run at all on consoles.
3. You pointed out that you didn't think the game was all that great.
4. Someone pointed out that the game was well reviewed.
5. You pointed out that the standards are different between PC and consoles.
6. I pointed out that, while the standards between platforms are relative, enjoyment is absolute.
7. You pointed out... well, nothing. I don't actually see a point anywhere in your post.

So, let's set aside whether you were talking about me and focus solely on my argument, that good games are good regardless of platform. If you'd like to provide a counter-argument, I'm listening. If you'd prefer to talk about me, I'm sure there are several forums around the internet dedicated to discussing my general awesomeness; I suggest you seek one out.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Well uh...I play PC.

Anything on console looks terrible to me because of the overall less quality. When I start playing on a console I can barely see anything because of the lack of AA, lower res, and everything just looks plain fuzzy and ugly.

Jebus213

So anyway the picture quality on consoles looks horrible right? RIGHT!

No. 720p is fine and the aliasing for 360/PS3 games is usually very minimal, if there at all. I play PC too and recognise that it can run games more smoothly at a sharper resolution, and it's technically more impressive. But that doesn't stop games like UC2 from looking great. Hell, even some of themuch less technically impressive games can look great in their own way. So for picture quality, it's not as high as what PCs can do, but still fine on an HDTV. However, there's so much more to a game's look than picture quality, so consoles still have great looking games.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Considering the games available, yes there is.

Team Fortress 2 is around 10 times better than the console versions. Same with L4D2, any Valve game for that matter.

We have more exclusive multiplayer first person shooters that actually have good multiplayer. like Red Orchestra 1 and 2, Counter-Strike and CS:S, Natural Selection 1 and 2, Battlefield series(the latest with BF3 with 64 player support, unlike the consoles and including BF2 which still has a ton of players), Shattered Horizon, Crysis Wars, etc.

Sure, we have our mass markets on PC that only plays CoD games, but those are mostly the people who have no idea what a lot of the games I listed are.

On the PC we have more choices for quality multiplayer games, it's a fact.

And I don't want to hear you combining PS3 and 360 games, keep the platforms individual, or else you're just proving how much the PC is ahead if you have to combine 2 platforms.

They do for me. Are you talking about the gameplay or the quality of the games?

Sure the quality of Halo is there, I won't deny that. However, I find the gameplay boring and outdated.

And why would those exclusive PC FPS games make a dent on Halo 3's success? That's the reason Halo is so popular on consoles, because there isn't that much choice otherwise.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I wasn't going to combine PS3 and 360 games, but considering that your point is against 'console' games (you know, combined platforms), I don't see a reason why. I don't see how the PC having some FPS's = Halo 3's praise and general reception being any less deserved. I've played BF2/CS:S/TF2 on PC (not for massive amounts of time, but still...) and they don't strike me as being massively above Halo 3's quality.savagetwinkie

They do for me. Are you talking about the gameplay or the quality of the games?

Sure the quality of Halo is there, I won't deny that. However, I find the gameplay boring and outdated.

And why would those exclusive PC FPS games make a dent on Halo 3's success? That's the reason Halo is so popular on consoles, because there isn't that much choice otherwise.

How is BF2 or TF2 more outdated than Halo now?

However, I don't play those games really, so what's your point?

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

They do for me. Are you talking about the gameplay or the quality of the games?

Sure the quality of Halo is there, I won't deny that. However, I find the gameplay boring and outdated.

And why would those exclusive PC FPS games make a dent on Halo 3's success? That's the reason Halo is so popular on consoles, because there isn't that much choice otherwise.

How is BF2 or TF2 more outdated than Halo now?

However, I don't play those games really, so what's your point?

The PC still can't run Demon Souls, Uncharted 1,2 & 3, Bayoneta, Kill Zone 2 & 3, Castevina LOS, etc on ANY settings so whats your point?

The PC still can't run Demon Souls, Uncharted 1,2 & 3, Bayoneta, Kill Zone 2 & 3, Castevina LOS, etc on ANY settings so whats your point?

Shielder7

Watch as someone lists out all the random PC exclusives we have that neither consoles can play. :)

I lould like to see a PC from 2005 run Crysis 2. Then we could talk.

I lould like to see a PC from 2005 run Crysis 2. Then we could talk.

miless

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] i just want to pointed out that bf2/cs:s/tf2 is far more outdated than halo, if you like those games great, but halo did have a new and refreshing type of multiplayer, and it has built upon that pretty nicely, theres plenty of choice on consoles, just the competition is so bad no one even achowledges it.savagetwinkie

How is BF2 or TF2 more outdated than Halo now?

However, I don't play those games really, so what's your point?

I called it outdated and boring in a different post than in the ones I listed. The ones I listed were for variety's sake, stop twisting my words.

Make a valid point when you call me out, otherwise, don't say anything. You're just trying to save your argument by twisting my words.

The fact that crysis 2 works at all on consoles is a feat in it self. My pc vs a console is like a 5 year old vs an adult. Sure my pc will win with ease but imo that is nothing to be happy about.

I lould like to see a PC from 2005 run Crysis 2. Then we could talk.

miless

Actually the 8800gt GPU launched in 2006, and that GPU can run crysis 2. Meaning that a PC for 2006 can play the game, close enough.

The PC still can't run Demon Souls, Uncharted 1,2 & 3, Bayoneta, Kill Zone 2 & 3, Castevina LOS, etc on ANY settings so whats your point?

Shielder7

The only reason the pc can't run those games is because they have not been released on pc. If they were they would look much better. Just like the tc pointed out the crysis 2 old beta looks better than the new build on console.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

How is BF2 or TF2 more outdated than Halo now?

However, I don't play those games really, so what's your point?

I called it outdated and boring in a different post than in the ones I listed. The ones I listed were for variety's sake, stop twisting my words.

Make a valid point when you call me out, otherwise, don't say anything. You're just trying to save your argument by twisting my words.

[QUOTE="Shielder7"]

The PC still can't run Demon Souls, Uncharted 1,2 & 3, Bayoneta, Kill Zone 2 & 3, Castevina LOS, etc on ANY settings so whats your point?

Rude_Bwoii

The only reason the pc can't run those games is because they have not been released on pc. If they were they would look much better. Just like the tc pointed out the crysis 2 old beta looks better than the new build on console.

I wonder if the PS3 can run my old intellivision games, Astrosmash anyone?

Anyway Intellivision > PS3

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

PC can't run Halo 3.

aroxx_ab

Are you sure? i bet we see 360emulator out there if we look for it:P

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If gaming computers were better more people would have them

done deal, consoles are better

of corse for the money.... PCs are better... duh

someone said consoles are the poor mans PC... kinda true

cheap computers that will rin todays games will not run tomorrows games the same, consoles will always run the games the best they can