Is the PS3 comeback to beat the 360 in sales the greatest in gaming history?

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#251 superclocked
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Sony also combined PS2 and PS3 sales, which were down 400,000 units to 2.8 millionSony pulled a similar stunt with the PS3 and PS2, and only told us that combined the two systems shipped 2.8 million units worldwideThe numbers reported show that the PS3 and PS2 combined shipments totaled 2.8 million units worldwide during the first quarter 70.2 million includes PS2 sales for 2012. Not to mention the fact that they accounced that they had sold 70 million consoles over a month after Microsoft. Face it, Sony is still in last place.. :P
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#252 maxon27
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[QUOTE="maxon27"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

that wiki link puts ps3 at 70.2 million in SEPTEMBER. :lol: not to mention the whole 200k is made up by u delusional cows, as it was never in sony's official statement. :lol:

you think you can just edit the wikipedia entries and immediately post it before someone changes it back? :lol: you have no shame do you? :lol: damn son if sales mean so much to you maybe you should get checked out by a doctor/ :lol:

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So if sony announces that PS3 has sold 70 million and its fiscal report (when added up) shows Q2 2012 seventy million two hundred thousand. That is proof that them sales do not include other devices. If it did include them? That figure would be more. Ps vita sales alone would have taken that over the 200 thousand. So ps3 has sold 70.2 million.

Why are you people arguing this? Seriously... http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/16/playstation-3-sales-70-million-units/

As of November 4th,Sony shipped 70 million PS3s. They do not say 70.2, or that they have shipped "over 70 million". They sid " Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCE) today announced that the cumulative sales of the PlayStation®3 (PS3®) computer entertainment system reached a milestone of 70 million units* worldwide as of November 4, 2012 less than six years after the platform launched in 2006."

Saying "well, it's actually 70.2" is garbage. If it was 70.2, they would have said so; or released the 70 million press release earlier.

It is evident by the figures themselves are referring to ps3 sales. THINK about as others keep posting. Sony announces ps3 70 million sales and their sales figures account for the same except including 200 hundred thousand that they reflect ps3 sales. That 200 thousand does not account for ps3, ps2, psp, ps vita. Ps vita has sold more then 200 thousand on it's own. So them figures (if like you say including all devices) that figure would be alot more?.
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#253 loosingENDS
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This puts Sony at the top with one of the greatest sales achievements in gaming history, has there been anything greater than this feat in terms of sales? Sure some will argue the PS2, but this could be a right up there with PS2 sales, if not better.

PinnacleGamingP

Sony lost 50% of its market share, which now is on xbox

Also is 20 million systems behind outside Japan, which means PS brand is nearly extinct in US and close to extinct outside Japan

Beeing totally destroyed and loosing US completly is not exactly something to cheer about LOL, but feel free to do so if it makes you feel better

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#254 SUD123456
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="maxon27"] http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/Kpi/FY13/Q1/Detail.aspx .http://scei.co.jp/corporate/release/121116_e.html. Now compare the same 2012 Q2 figures. PS3 is over Million in front. http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html. = 63 Million.. Now add. http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdata_ces_sale_e.html. = 6.3 Million... TOTAL = 70.2 Million. THIS MEANS that by this proof ( http://scei.co.jp/corporate/release/121116_e.html ) the figures are NOT including PS2 sales?maxon27

u notice how the first link says

PlayStation®3 Worldwide Hardware Unit Sales (Unit: million)

and the second link says

Computer Entertainment System Worldwide Hardware Unit Sales Unit: Million

but i'm sure u already know that the second link isn't restricted to just ps3 sales. man if sales makes you so miserable that u need to start making up numbers maybe you need to take a break from this place. :lol:

So if sony announces that PS3 has sold 70 million and its fiscal report (when added up) shows Q2 2012 seventy million two hundred thousand. That is proof that them sales do not include other devices. If it did include them? That figure would be more. Ps vita sales alone would have taken that over the 200 thousand. The 200 thousand will be included in the next announcement. Again if them sales included psp, ps2 and ps vita? The sales would be alot more. Deal with it. You are WRONG!. POOR desperate xbot holding on so tight to 2nd place but snatched by ps3 lol.

Quit trolling us you douche. I went over this with you a gazillion times yesterday.

Why you people are too stupid or too scared to actually look at the only document that matters I don't know.

But you claim you want the truth based on the fiscal reports, so here come the actual fiscal reports:

Official Earnings Release as of Sep 30th, 2011 - Slide 13 Combined PS2 & PS3 Sales: Read it and weep fanboy

Official Earnings Release as of Mar 31st, 2011 - Slide 14 Separate Numbers for each system

Starting with the April to June quarter Sony changed its reporting, thus your f*cking 70.2 million includes PS2 sales from Apr - Sep.

Now STFU.

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#255 PAL360
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Claiming ownage over something factually wrong....again? I almost feel sorry for the non-fanboy PS3 comunity.,,,cows really do make them look bad!

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#256 metal_zombie
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Xbox and PS3 tied for last place so it doesn't matter and the difference graphically is nearly indistinguishable there is no sense to keep arguing about these topics ad nauseam
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#257 KarateeeChop
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you cows have been saying you don't care about sales for years, but now you resort to twisting facts and making up false data just to claim some sort of ownage. sometimes i almost feel bad for you guys. :lol:

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#258 maxon27
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[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]

This puts Sony at the top with one of the greatest sales achievements in gaming history, has there been anything greater than this feat in terms of sales? Sure some will argue the PS2, but this could be a right up there with PS2 sales, if not better.

loosingENDS

Sony lost 50% of its market share, which now is on xbox

Also is 20 million systems behind outside Japan, which means PS brand is nearly extinct in US and close to extinct outside Japan

Beeing totally destroyed and loosing US completly is not exactly something to cheer about LOL, but feel free to do so if it makes you feel better

That is the worst come back so far. Ps3 is selling more then 360 worldwide and 360 is selling more mainly in North America. 360 is extinct in Japan. With ps3 now ahead of 360 at 70.2 million despite being 8-10 million behind in the start proves that your post is LAUGHABLE. Also take in that when xbox360 first launched 57% of it's units suffered rlod. Over the life cycle that figure dropped (took 6 years to get to an acceptable level). Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales. Then with the 3 year extended warranty came in, more 360 sales had a contribution from failure. (Over 1 billion losses from warranty claims on 360). So just imaging if the 360 didn't rely on failure to carry it's sales? 360 total would be millions less then what it has. But thats not all. Xbl account banning. Yes millions of people got banned from xbl. Yes many were from playing copied games. Many also playing legitimate version of the game but went online before the release date. Plus god knows how many got banned for absolutely no reason at all. Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360. Thus also contributing to the total sales. So if Microsoft wasn't so dodgy, just think how many millions less 360 would be at? Lol. Dam you bots brag about a system sales that are mainly gained from failure. Pmsl
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#259 ArchoNils2
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I'm not that surprised tobe honest, in the end they managed to always lower the gap of the 1 yer headstart of the x360. Still, I think it's stupid to comprare act. numbers versus old numbers. Once MS releases their numbers, PS3 will be last again, who really cares?

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#260 lundy86_4
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With ps3 now ahead of 360 at 70.2 millionmaxon27

Incorrect. SUD just DOMINATED that theory of yours.

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#261 superclocked
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[QUOTE="maxon27"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

u notice how the first link says

PlayStation®3 Worldwide Hardware Unit Sales (Unit: million)

and the second link says

Computer Entertainment System Worldwide Hardware Unit Sales Unit: Million

but i'm sure u already know that the second link isn't restricted to just ps3 sales. man if sales makes you so miserable that u need to start making up numbers maybe you need to take a break from this place. :lol:

SUD123456

So if sony announces that PS3 has sold 70 million and its fiscal report (when added up) shows Q2 2012 seventy million two hundred thousand. That is proof that them sales do not include other devices. If it did include them? That figure would be more. Ps vita sales alone would have taken that over the 200 thousand. The 200 thousand will be included in the next announcement. Again if them sales included psp, ps2 and ps vita? The sales would be alot more. Deal with it. You are WRONG!. POOR desperate xbot holding on so tight to 2nd place but snatched by ps3 lol.

Quit trolling us you douche. I went over this with you a gazillion times yesterday.

Why you people are too stupid or too scared to actually look at the only document that matters I don't know.

But you claim you want the truth based on the fiscal reports, so here come the actual fiscal reports:

Official Earnings Release as of Sep 30th, 2011 - Slide 13 Combined PS2 & PS3 Sales: Read it and weep fanboy

Official Earnings Release as of Mar 31st, 2011 - Slide 14 Separate Numbers for each system

Starting with the April to June quarter Sony changed its reporting, thus your f*cking 70.2 million includes PS2 sales from Apr - Sep.

Now STFU.

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#262 maxon27
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[QUOTE="maxon27"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

u notice how the first link says

PlayStation®3 Worldwide Hardware Unit Sales (Unit: million)

and the second link says

Computer Entertainment System Worldwide Hardware Unit Sales Unit: Million

but i'm sure u already know that the second link isn't restricted to just ps3 sales. man if sales makes you so miserable that u need to start making up numbers maybe you need to take a break from this place. :lol:

Bruce_Benzing

So if sony announces that PS3 has sold 70 million and its fiscal report (when added up) shows Q2 2012 seventy million two hundred thousand. That is proof that them sales do not include other devices. If it did include them? That figure would be more. Ps vita sales alone would have taken that over the 200 thousand. The 200 thousand will be included in the next announcement. Again if them sales included psp, ps2 and ps vita? The sales would be alot more. Deal with it. You are WRONG!. POOR desperate xbot holding on so tight to 2nd place but snatched by ps3 lol.

The sales wouldn't include either Viata or PSP. There's a seperate tabe under FY2012 specifically under Computer Entertainment System Worldwide Hardware Unit Sales. It's called Portable Entertainment System. So in your world, they combine sales of both handhelds, but don't combine sales of PS3 and PS2, even though other links specifically state that Sony does it. Then you call everyone else desperate...oh the irony.

If people can't add up then that's not my problem. And if people believe that PS2 only sold 200 thousand in ( 6 months which is 2 x Quarters ) then they are well....xbots? Lol
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#263 BlbecekBobecek
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Its on wiki so its official:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worldwide_sales_figures_6

Gratz PS3, better luck next time lamebox. Guess the reason behind this is that 360 has no games.

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#264 lundy86_4
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Its on wiki so its official:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worldwide_sales_figures_6

Gratz PS3, better luck next time lamebox. Guess the reason behind this is that 360 has no games.

BlbecekBobecek

lolno. They are quoting the combined figures :lol:

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#265 superclocked
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Its on wiki so its official:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worldwide_sales_figures_6

Gratz PS3, better luck next time lamebox. Guess the reason behind this is that 360 has no games.

BlbecekBobecek
Official Earnings Release as of Sep 30th, 2011 - Slide 13: Sony Combined PS2 & PS3 Sales PS3 - 54 pages of games 360 - 111 pages of games :P
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#266 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Its on wiki so its official:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worldwide_sales_figures_6

Gratz PS3, better luck next time lamebox. Guess the reason behind this is that 360 has no games.

lundy86_4

lolno. They are quoting the combined figures :lol:

Romney had excuses too. The official counts.

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#267 Blue_Nishin
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Last 5 pages:

Cows - "PS3 has sold 70.2 million LOL Sony continues to dominate"

Everyone else - "Actually the extra 200k is from PS2 sales as stated here and here and h...."

Cows - "LAH LAH LAH 70.2 million"

:lol:

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#268 lundy86_4
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Romney had excuses too. The official counts.

BlbecekBobecek

It counts when you combine 2 systems shipment figures for the last 2 quarters? :lol: OK.

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#269 BlbecekBobecek
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Last 5 pages:

Cows - "PS3 has sold 70.2 million LOL Sony continues to dominate"

Everyone else - "Actually the extra 200k is from PS2 sales as stated here and here and h...."

Cows - "LAH LAH LAH 70.2 million"

:lol:

Blue_Nishin

Well considering 360 had a full year head start and sold 20 milions to causals bundled with kinect its no wonder it makes us feel good to beat them anyway. :cool:

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#270 Bruce_Benzing
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Romney had excuses too. The official counts.

lundy86_4

It counts when you combine 2 systems shipment figures for the last 2 quarters? :lol: OK.

The funny part is, they keep ignoring the actual official fiscal reports from Sony that clearly say they combined PS2 and PS3 sales in it. This is clear proof that all Cows have promising careers ahead of them, in US Politics...

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]

This puts Sony at the top with one of the greatest sales achievements in gaming history, has there been anything greater than this feat in terms of sales? Sure some will argue the PS2, but this could be a right up there with PS2 sales, if not better.

maxon27

Sony lost 50% of its market share, which now is on xbox

Also is 20 million systems behind outside Japan, which means PS brand is nearly extinct in US and close to extinct outside Japan

Beeing totally destroyed and loosing US completly is not exactly something to cheer about LOL, but feel free to do so if it makes you feel better

That is the worst come back so far. Ps3 is selling more then 360 worldwide and 360 is selling more mainly in North America. 360 is extinct in Japan. With ps3 now ahead of 360 at 70.2 million despite being 8-10 million behind in the start proves that your post is LAUGHABLE. Also take in that when xbox360 first launched 57% of it's units suffered rlod. Over the life cycle that figure dropped (took 6 years to get to an acceptable level). Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales. Then with the 3 year extended warranty came in, more 360 sales had a contribution from failure. (Over 1 billion losses from warranty claims on 360). So just imaging if the 360 didn't rely on failure to carry it's sales? 360 total would be millions less then what it has. But thats not all. Xbl account banning. Yes millions of people got banned from xbl. Yes many were from playing copied games. Many also playing legitimate version of the game but went online before the release date. Plus god knows how many got banned for absolutely no reason at all. Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360. Thus also contributing to the total sales. So if Microsoft wasn't so dodgy, just think how many millions less 360 would be at? Lol. Dam you bots brag about a system sales that are mainly gained from failure. Pmsl

So, the PS3 caught the 360. Next gen starts (for MS and Sony) within 12-18 months. PS3 has sold about 1/2 the PS2, while the 360 is on track to sell three times as many as the first Xbox. I don't see how this is a huge Sony win.

"Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales." This makes no sense. MS has never said they include replacement or fixed consoles in their sales figures. If your speculation was correct, that would mean that games like Halo 3 and CODwould have 30-40% attachment rates, which is almost impossible.

"Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360." Again, see comment above.

You have no basis in fact for any of your claims.

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The funny part is, they keep ignoring the actual official fiscal reports from Sony that clearly say they combined PS2 and PS3 sales in it. This is clear proof that all Cows have promising careers ahead of them, in US Politics...

Bruce_Benzing

lol... This is true.

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#273 Heil68
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Its on wiki so its official:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worldwide_sales_figures_6

Gratz PS3, better luck next time lamebox. Guess the reason behind this is that 360 has no games.

lundy86_4

lolno. They are quoting the combined figures :lol:

Thank you Sony.
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#274 Blue_Nishin
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Romney had excuses too. The official counts.

Bruce_Benzing

It counts when you combine 2 systems shipment figures for the last 2 quarters? :lol: OK.

The funny part is, they keep ignoring the actual official fiscal reports from Sony that clearly say they combined PS2 and PS3 sales in it. This is clear proof that all Cows have promising careers ahead of them, in US Politics...

This is the cow methodology - when proven wrong in the face of facts, just make stuff up and try to confuse everyone with their delusions! :lol:

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#275 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It counts when you combine 2 systems shipment figures for the last 2 quarters? :lol: OK.

Blue_Nishin

The funny part is, they keep ignoring the actual official fiscal reports from Sony that clearly say they combined PS2 and PS3 sales in it. This is clear proof that all Cows have promising careers ahead of them, in US Politics...

This is the cow methodology - when proven wrong in the face of facts, just make stuff up and try to confuse everyone with their delusions! :lol:

Your filthy accusations have one weakness - Im not a cow! Hahaha, Killzowned!

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#276 maxon27
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[QUOTE="maxon27"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Sony lost 50% of its market share, which now is on xbox

Also is 20 million systems behind outside Japan, which means PS brand is nearly extinct in US and close to extinct outside Japan

Beeing totally destroyed and loosing US completly is not exactly something to cheer about LOL, but feel free to do so if it makes you feel better

StormyJoe

That is the worst come back so far. Ps3 is selling more then 360 worldwide and 360 is selling more mainly in North America. 360 is extinct in Japan. With ps3 now ahead of 360 at 70.2 million despite being 8-10 million behind in the start proves that your post is LAUGHABLE. Also take in that when xbox360 first launched 57% of it's units suffered rlod. Over the life cycle that figure dropped (took 6 years to get to an acceptable level). Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales. Then with the 3 year extended warranty came in, more 360 sales had a contribution from failure. (Over 1 billion losses from warranty claims on 360). So just imaging if the 360 didn't rely on failure to carry it's sales? 360 total would be millions less then what it has. But thats not all. Xbl account banning. Yes millions of people got banned from xbl. Yes many were from playing copied games. Many also playing legitimate version of the game but went online before the release date. Plus god knows how many got banned for absolutely no reason at all. Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360. Thus also contributing to the total sales. So if Microsoft wasn't so dodgy, just think how many millions less 360 would be at? Lol. Dam you bots brag about a system sales that are mainly gained from failure. Pmsl

So, the PS3 caught the 360. Next gen starts (for MS and Sony) within 12-18 months. PS3 has sold about 1/2 the PS2, while the 360 is on track to sell three times as many as the first Xbox. I don't see how this is a huge Sony win.

"Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales." This makes no sense. MS has never said they include replacement or fixed consoles in their sales figures. If your speculation was correct, that would mean that games like Halo 3 and CODwould have 30-40% attachment rates, which is almost impossible.

"Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360." Again, see comment above.

You have no basis in fact for any of your claims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.
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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="maxon27"] That is the worst come back so far. Ps3 is selling more then 360 worldwide and 360 is selling more mainly in North America. 360 is extinct in Japan. With ps3 now ahead of 360 at 70.2 million despite being 8-10 million behind in the start proves that your post is LAUGHABLE. Also take in that when xbox360 first launched 57% of it's units suffered rlod. Over the life cycle that figure dropped (took 6 years to get to an acceptable level). Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales. Then with the 3 year extended warranty came in, more 360 sales had a contribution from failure. (Over 1 billion losses from warranty claims on 360). So just imaging if the 360 didn't rely on failure to carry it's sales? 360 total would be millions less then what it has. But thats not all. Xbl account banning. Yes millions of people got banned from xbl. Yes many were from playing copied games. Many also playing legitimate version of the game but went online before the release date. Plus god knows how many got banned for absolutely no reason at all. Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360. Thus also contributing to the total sales. So if Microsoft wasn't so dodgy, just think how many millions less 360 would be at? Lol. Dam you bots brag about a system sales that are mainly gained from failure. Pmslmaxon27

So, the PS3 caught the 360. Next gen starts (for MS and Sony) within 12-18 months. PS3 has sold about 1/2 the PS2, while the 360 is on track to sell three times as many as the first Xbox. I don't see how this is a huge Sony win.

"Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales." This makes no sense. MS has never said they include replacement or fixed consoles in their sales figures. If your speculation was correct, that would mean that games like Halo 3 and CODwould have 30-40% attachment rates, which is almost impossible.

"Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360." Again, see comment above.

You have no basis in fact for any of your claims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.

So how many re-buys because of that then? How many PS3 re-buys because of YLOD? How many PS3 re-buys because of lasers going bad? You know what's sad is cows claiming ownage after saying sales don't matter for the past 6-7 years. What's also sad is claiming sales ownage on numbers just released by comparing them to numbers release almost 2 months ago. Cow are truly the saddest bunch on SWs
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#278 Plagueless
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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="maxon27"] That is the worst come back so far. Ps3 is selling more then 360 worldwide and 360 is selling more mainly in North America. 360 is extinct in Japan. With ps3 now ahead of 360 at 70.2 million despite being 8-10 million behind in the start proves that your post is LAUGHABLE. Also take in that when xbox360 first launched 57% of it's units suffered rlod. Over the life cycle that figure dropped (took 6 years to get to an acceptable level). Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales. Then with the 3 year extended warranty came in, more 360 sales had a contribution from failure. (Over 1 billion losses from warranty claims on 360). So just imaging if the 360 didn't rely on failure to carry it's sales? 360 total would be millions less then what it has. But thats not all. Xbl account banning. Yes millions of people got banned from xbl. Yes many were from playing copied games. Many also playing legitimate version of the game but went online before the release date. Plus god knows how many got banned for absolutely no reason at all. Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360. Thus also contributing to the total sales. So if Microsoft wasn't so dodgy, just think how many millions less 360 would be at? Lol. Dam you bots brag about a system sales that are mainly gained from failure. Pmslmaxon27

So, the PS3 caught the 360. Next gen starts (for MS and Sony) within 12-18 months. PS3 has sold about 1/2 the PS2, while the 360 is on track to sell three times as many as the first Xbox. I don't see how this is a huge Sony win.

"Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales." This makes no sense. MS has never said they include replacement or fixed consoles in their sales figures. If your speculation was correct, that would mean that games like Halo 3 and CODwould have 30-40% attachment rates, which is almost impossible.

"Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360." Again, see comment above.

You have no basis in fact for any of your claims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.

Nice alt account. Good thing you're using it too because you just got owned by SUD and you wouldn't want that on your real account now would we? :roll:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.maxon27

  1. Work on your English. It's terrible.
  2. How many people have purchased another 360 due to this? I need an exact count.
  3. You're a boob... A big gross boob... That sags.
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#280 DivineSword  Moderator
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I smell sarcasm in this one!

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#281 maxon27
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[QUOTE="maxon27"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

So, the PS3 caught the 360. Next gen starts (for MS and Sony) within 12-18 months. PS3 has sold about 1/2 the PS2, while the 360 is on track to sell three times as many as the first Xbox. I don't see how this is a huge Sony win.

"Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales." This makes no sense. MS has never said they include replacement or fixed consoles in their sales figures. If your speculation was correct, that would mean that games like Halo 3 and CODwould have 30-40% attachment rates, which is almost impossible.

"Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360." Again, see comment above.

You have no basis in fact for any of your claims.

kingtito
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.

So how many re-buys because of that then? How many PS3 re-buys because of YLOD? How many PS3 re-buys because of lasers going bad? You know what's sad is cows claiming ownage after saying sales don't matter for the past 6-7 years. What's also sad is claiming sales ownage on numbers just released by comparing them to numbers release almost 2 months ago. Cow are truly the saddest bunch on SWs

The number of ps3 from hardware failure was within the acceptable level. Xbox360 on the other hand BEFORE the extended 3 year warranty was 57%. Microsoft made a statement about the high level of failure and offered the 3 year warranty. No company would do that if they was within the acceptable level. It is a fact 360 was NOT within the acceptable level. http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-failure-rates-are-reportedly-down-ps3-failure-rates-just-generation-comes-to-a-close/ Yeah bit of a different story don't you think.
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#282 Blue_Nishin
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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="maxon27"] That is the worst come back so far. Ps3 is selling more then 360 worldwide and 360 is selling more mainly in North America. 360 is extinct in Japan. With ps3 now ahead of 360 at 70.2 million despite being 8-10 million behind in the start proves that your post is LAUGHABLE. Also take in that when xbox360 first launched 57% of it's units suffered rlod. Over the life cycle that figure dropped (took 6 years to get to an acceptable level). Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales. Then with the 3 year extended warranty came in, more 360 sales had a contribution from failure. (Over 1 billion losses from warranty claims on 360). So just imaging if the 360 didn't rely on failure to carry it's sales? 360 total would be millions less then what it has. But thats not all. Xbl account banning. Yes millions of people got banned from xbl. Yes many were from playing copied games. Many also playing legitimate version of the game but went online before the release date. Plus god knows how many got banned for absolutely no reason at all. Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360. Thus also contributing to the total sales. So if Microsoft wasn't so dodgy, just think how many millions less 360 would be at? Lol. Dam you bots brag about a system sales that are mainly gained from failure. Pmslmaxon27

So, the PS3 caught the 360. Next gen starts (for MS and Sony) within 12-18 months. PS3 has sold about 1/2 the PS2, while the 360 is on track to sell three times as many as the first Xbox. I don't see how this is a huge Sony win.

"Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales." This makes no sense. MS has never said they include replacement or fixed consoles in their sales figures. If your speculation was correct, that would mean that games like Halo 3 and CODwould have 30-40% attachment rates, which is almost impossible.

"Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360." Again, see comment above.

You have no basis in fact for any of your claims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.

So much butthurt in just one post. You shouldn't about sales so much; it is obviously making you really upset. :lol:

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#283 maxon27
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[QUOTE="maxon27"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

So, the PS3 caught the 360. Next gen starts (for MS and Sony) within 12-18 months. PS3 has sold about 1/2 the PS2, while the 360 is on track to sell three times as many as the first Xbox. I don't see how this is a huge Sony win.

"Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales." This makes no sense. MS has never said they include replacement or fixed consoles in their sales figures. If your speculation was correct, that would mean that games like Halo 3 and CODwould have 30-40% attachment rates, which is almost impossible.

"Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360." Again, see comment above.

You have no basis in fact for any of your claims.

kingtito
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.

So how many re-buys because of that then? How many PS3 re-buys because of YLOD? How many PS3 re-buys because of lasers going bad? You know what's sad is cows claiming ownage after saying sales don't matter for the past 6-7 years. What's also sad is claiming sales ownage on numbers just released by comparing them to numbers release almost 2 months ago. Cow are truly the saddest bunch on SWs

It is a fact that the majority of xbox360 users have had more then one xbox360. What happens when you buy a 360?. It's sale is added. What happens when your system breaks and you buy another? Its sale is added. What happens when 57% of sales are faulty in one year?. Yeah let you work that out pmsl
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#284 lundy86_4
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It is a fact that the majority of xbox360 users have had more then one xbox360. What happens when you buy a 360?. It's sale is added. What happens when your system breaks and you buy another? Its sale is added. What happens when 57% of sales are faulty in one year?. Yeah let you work that out pmslmaxon27

Where is this "fact" documented? Where are the studies that make this a "fact"? I'll wait.

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#285 maxon27
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[QUOTE="maxon27"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

So, the PS3 caught the 360. Next gen starts (for MS and Sony) within 12-18 months. PS3 has sold about 1/2 the PS2, while the 360 is on track to sell three times as many as the first Xbox. I don't see how this is a huge Sony win.

"Them MASSIVE hardware failures (worst in consumer electronics history) that would have contributed towards 360 total sales." This makes no sense. MS has never said they include replacement or fixed consoles in their sales figures. If your speculation was correct, that would mean that games like Halo 3 and CODwould have 30-40% attachment rates, which is almost impossible.

"Now Microsoft support confirmed that in order for a banned user to get back online, they would need to buy another xbox360." Again, see comment above.

You have no basis in fact for any of your claims.

Blue_Nishin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.

So much butthurt in just one post. You shouldn't about sales so much; it is obviously making you really upset. :lol:

Awww just had it CONFIRMED that banned xbl users do have ro buy another system to get back online? LMAO.
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#286 Blue_Nishin
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="maxon27"] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.maxon27
So how many re-buys because of that then? How many PS3 re-buys because of YLOD? How many PS3 re-buys because of lasers going bad? You know what's sad is cows claiming ownage after saying sales don't matter for the past 6-7 years. What's also sad is claiming sales ownage on numbers just released by comparing them to numbers release almost 2 months ago. Cow are truly the saddest bunch on SWs

The number of ps3 from hardware failure was within the acceptable level. Xbox360 on the other hand BEFORE the extended 3 year warranty was 57%. Microsoft made a statement about the high level of failure and offered the 3 year warranty. No company would do that if they was within the acceptable level. It is a fact 360 was NOT within the acceptable level. http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-failure-rates-are-reportedly-down-ps3-failure-rates-just-generation-comes-to-a-close/ Yeah bit of a different story don't you think.

Well, if you wanna play that way, the PS3's failure rate was 16%, so going by (cow) logics Sony only actually sold about 60 million. MS replaced the faulty 360s for free and didn't count them in their official reports. Sure sucks for you considering how much you care about this sales game. :lol: :lol:

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[QUOTE="maxon27"]The number of ps3 from hardware failure was within the acceptable level. Xbox360 on the other hand BEFORE the extended 3 year warranty was 57%. Microsoft made a statement about the high level of failure and offered the 3 year warranty. No company would do that if they was within the acceptable level. It is a fact 360 was NOT within the acceptable level. http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-failure-rates-are-reportedly-down-ps3-failure-rates-just-generation-comes-to-a-close/ Yeah bit of a different story don't you think.

The original PS3 is also very prone to failure. The difference is that Microsoft replaced the broken 360's for free, and those consoles were not added to their number of units sold. They didn't even ask for receipts. Try to get that kind of service from Sony, or any at all for that matter.. Also, you never did respond to SUD...

[QUOTE="maxon27"]So if sony announces that PS3 has sold 70 million and its fiscal report (when added up) shows Q2 2012 seventy million two hundred thousand. That is proof that them sales do not include other devices. If it did include them? That figure would be more. Ps vita sales alone would have taken that over the 200 thousand. The 200 thousand will be included in the next announcement. Again if them sales included psp, ps2 and ps vita? The sales would be alot more. Deal with it. You are WRONG!. POOR desperate xbot holding on so tight to 2nd place but snatched by ps3 lol.SUD123456

Quit trolling us you douche. I went over this with you a gazillion times yesterday.

Why you people are too stupid or too scared to actually look at the only document that matters I don't know.

But you claim you want the truth based on the fiscal reports, so here come the actual fiscal reports:

Official Earnings Release as of Sep 30th, 2011 - Slide 13 Combined PS2 & PS3 Sales: Read it and weep fanboy

Official Earnings Release as of Mar 31st, 2011 - Slide 14 Separate Numbers for each system

Starting with the April to June quarter Sony changed its reporting, thus your f*cking 70.2 million includes PS2 sales from Apr - Sep.

Now STFU.

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The PS3 didn't beat anyone. /thread
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="maxon27"] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.maxon27
So how many re-buys because of that then? How many PS3 re-buys because of YLOD? How many PS3 re-buys because of lasers going bad? You know what's sad is cows claiming ownage after saying sales don't matter for the past 6-7 years. What's also sad is claiming sales ownage on numbers just released by comparing them to numbers release almost 2 months ago. Cow are truly the saddest bunch on SWs

It is a fact that the majority of xbox360 users have had more then one xbox360. What happens when you buy a 360?. It's sale is added. What happens when your system breaks and you buy another? Its sale is added. What happens when 57% of sales are faulty in one year?. Yeah let you work that out pmsl

So, there are only 35 million active 360 owners, and yet 360 games sell more than PS3's? Damn, thank you for this impressive results!

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#290 kingtito
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[QUOTE="maxon27"][QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="maxon27"] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.

So how many re-buys because of that then? How many PS3 re-buys because of YLOD? How many PS3 re-buys because of lasers going bad? You know what's sad is cows claiming ownage after saying sales don't matter for the past 6-7 years. What's also sad is claiming sales ownage on numbers just released by comparing them to numbers release almost 2 months ago. Cow are truly the saddest bunch on SWs

The number of ps3 from hardware failure was within the acceptable level. Xbox360 on the other hand BEFORE the extended 3 year warranty was 57%. Microsoft made a statement about the high level of failure and offered the 3 year warranty. No company would do that if they was within the acceptable level. It is a fact 360 was NOT within the acceptable level. http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-failure-rates-are-reportedly-down-ps3-failure-rates-just-generation-comes-to-a-close/ Yeah bit of a different story don't you think.

Every single 360 was under a 3 year warranty and those that paid for the repair got reimbursed. I'm on my 3rd and I haven't had to re-buy my 360 but I did have to re-buy my PS3. My PS3 wasn't covered under any type of warranty when my laser stopped reading the disc. Guess that means the PS3s numbers are off by quiet a bit, don't you think?
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#291 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="maxon27"] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE-Ui9OmFA Ouch Microsoft support confirming that a banned user must buy another xbox360 to get back online. Oh but don't tell me, it don't count because it don't suit you? Pmsl you 360 sheep are such sore losers.maxon27
So how many re-buys because of that then? How many PS3 re-buys because of YLOD? How many PS3 re-buys because of lasers going bad? You know what's sad is cows claiming ownage after saying sales don't matter for the past 6-7 years. What's also sad is claiming sales ownage on numbers just released by comparing them to numbers release almost 2 months ago. Cow are truly the saddest bunch on SWs

It is a fact that the majority of xbox360 users have had more then one xbox360. What happens when you buy a 360?. It's sale is added. What happens when your system breaks and you buy another? Its sale is added. What happens when 57% of sales are faulty in one year?. Yeah let you work that out pmsl

IT IS A FACT microsoft fixed 360 for free and or re-imbursed you if you paid for the repair. IT IS A FACT those numbers DO NOT COUNT towards sales. IT IS A FACT PS3s had the YLOD failure and Sony DID NOT repair those for free. IT IS A FACT PS3s has faulty lasers in the early models and Sony DID NOT repair those for free. IT IS A FACT you are clueless and NOBODY can fix that, no matter the cost.

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#292 maxon27
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[QUOTE="maxon27"]It is a fact that the majority of xbox360 users have had more then one xbox360. What happens when you buy a 360?. It's sale is added. What happens when your system breaks and you buy another? Its sale is added. What happens when 57% of sales are faulty in one year?. Yeah let you work that out pmsllundy86_4

Where is this "fact" documented? Where are the studies that make this a "fact"? I'll wait.

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-failure-rates-are-reportedly-down-ps3-failure-rates-just-generation-comes-to-a-close/ Right so how many failed?. How many have bought another out of the 57% in that one year?. It has taken almost 360 entire life cycle to get to the acceptable level that the ps3 is at. The fact that Microsoft issued the 3 year warranty is also Microsoft admitting the issue. Why did they do this? Good will gesture? Hahahaha don't be stupid. They won't let you play your own games online so they most certainly won't be doing a 3year warranty out of the goodness of the company. No it's to prevent law suits. It showed that Microsoft acted on it because the failure rate was higher then acceptable.
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#293 maxon27
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[QUOTE="maxon27"][QUOTE="kingtito"] So how many re-buys because of that then? How many PS3 re-buys because of YLOD? How many PS3 re-buys because of lasers going bad? You know what's sad is cows claiming ownage after saying sales don't matter for the past 6-7 years. What's also sad is claiming sales ownage on numbers just released by comparing them to numbers release almost 2 months ago. Cow are truly the saddest bunch on SWskingtito

It is a fact that the majority of xbox360 users have had more then one xbox360. What happens when you buy a 360?. It's sale is added. What happens when your system breaks and you buy another? Its sale is added. What happens when 57% of sales are faulty in one year?. Yeah let you work that out pmsl

IT IS A FACT microsoft fixed 360 for free and or re-imbursed you if you paid for the repair. IT IS A FACT those numbers DO NOT COUNT towards sales. IT IS A FACT PS3s had the YLOD failure and Sony DID NOT repair those for free. IT IS A FACT PS3s has faulty lasers in the early models and Sony DID NOT repair those for free. IT IS A FACT you are clueless and NOBODY can fix that, no matter the cost.

It is a fact you are talking rubbish why? Because my 360 get rrod within the 12 month of having the system. I got it fixed via warranty and was given a 6month extended warranty (before 3 year warranty came in). My 360 died again 2 weeks out of the extended warranty period which lead me to have to pay with my money to get it fixed. Microsoft did not refund me my money...FACT!.
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#294 Blue_Nishin
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A wise man (Bruce_Benzing)once said - "Arguing with a Cow is like playing Chess with a Pigeon, it will knock down all the pieces , crap on the board and then run back to the flock proclaiming victory..."

I think we should stop responding to the butthurtedness that is kuraimen/tintedeyes/pinnacle/shadowmoses 's alt account. :lol:

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#295 maxon27
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[QUOTE="maxon27"][QUOTE="kingtito"] So how many re-buys because of that then? How many PS3 re-buys because of YLOD? How many PS3 re-buys because of lasers going bad? You know what's sad is cows claiming ownage after saying sales don't matter for the past 6-7 years. What's also sad is claiming sales ownage on numbers just released by comparing them to numbers release almost 2 months ago. Cow are truly the saddest bunch on SWskingtito

It is a fact that the majority of xbox360 users have had more then one xbox360. What happens when you buy a 360?. It's sale is added. What happens when your system breaks and you buy another? Its sale is added. What happens when 57% of sales are faulty in one year?. Yeah let you work that out pmsl

IT IS A FACT microsoft fixed 360 for free and or re-imbursed you if you paid for the repair. IT IS A FACT those numbers DO NOT COUNT towards sales. IT IS A FACT PS3s had the YLOD failure and Sony DID NOT repair those for free. IT IS A FACT PS3s has faulty lasers in the early models and Sony DID NOT repair those for free. IT IS A FACT you are clueless and NOBODY can fix that, no matter the cost.

http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2009/08/17/report-xbox-360-failure-rate-reaches-54 Not only is 360 the biggest failure but its customer support is the worst. No surprises their. http://m.engadget.com/2009/08/24/microsoft-responds-to-xbox-360-54-2-percent-failure-rate-report/ Microsoft know their hardware was crap.
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="maxon27"]It is a fact that the majority of xbox360 users have had more then one xbox360. What happens when you buy a 360?. It's sale is added. What happens when your system breaks and you buy another? Its sale is added. What happens when 57% of sales are faulty in one year?. Yeah let you work that out pmslmaxon27

Where is this "fact" documented? Where are the studies that make this a "fact"? I'll wait.

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-failure-rates-are-reportedly-down-ps3-failure-rates-just-generation-comes-to-a-close/ Right so how many failed?. How many have bought another out of the 57% in that one year?. It has taken almost 360 entire life cycle to get to the acceptable level that the ps3 is at. The fact that Microsoft issued the 3 year warranty is also Microsoft admitting the issue. Why did they do this? Good will gesture? Hahahaha don't be stupid. They won't let you play your own games online so they most certainly won't be doing a 3year warranty out of the goodness of the company. No it's to prevent law suits. It showed that Microsoft acted on it because the failure rate was higher then acceptable.

What does that entire post prove, beside f*ck all?

You need to prove how many sales were made due to faulty hardware... Are you stupid?

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Like you stated, MS offered a 3-year warranty. Why would you buy a new console, if you fall within the warranty?

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[QUOTE="maxon27"][QUOTE="kingtito"]

It is a fact that the majority of xbox360 users have had more then one xbox360. What happens when you buy a 360?. It's sale is added. What happens when your system breaks and you buy another? Its sale is added. What happens when 57% of sales are faulty in one year?. Yeah let you work that out pmslmaxon27

IT IS A FACT microsoft fixed 360 for free and or re-imbursed you if you paid for the repair. IT IS A FACT those numbers DO NOT COUNT towards sales. IT IS A FACT PS3s had the YLOD failure and Sony DID NOT repair those for free. IT IS A FACT PS3s has faulty lasers in the early models and Sony DID NOT repair those for free. IT IS A FACT you are clueless and NOBODY can fix that, no matter the cost.

http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2009/08/17/report-xbox-360-failure-rate-reaches-54 Not only is 360 the biggest failure but its customer support is the worst. No surprises their. http://m.engadget.com/2009/08/24/microsoft-responds-to-xbox-360-54-2-percent-failure-rate-report/ Microsoft know their hardware was crap.

:lol: 54.2 % failure rate? are you fckin kidding me???? more like 78.4%, and 100% in the long run
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This puts Sony at the top with one of the greatest sales achievements in gaming history, has there been anything greater than this feat in terms of sales? Sure some will argue the PS2, but this could be a right up there with PS2 sales, if not better.

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Not even close. Sony being kicked to the side on the snes cd addon, then deciding to release a console, and proceeding to take the market by storm is the greatest comeback.
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Next up: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/11/16/playstation-blogcast-51-one-year-older-70-million-ps3s-wiser/ Ps3 (((passes 70 million))) not reaches PASSES.
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Next up: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/11/16/playstation-blogcast-51-one-year-older-70-million-ps3s-wiser/ Ps3 (((passes 70 million))) not reaches PASSES.