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8.0 - 8.5 AA
I would be surprised at AAA, honestly. AA is a great score, and that's what I see GS giving it.
It's too experimental for GS, imo.
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EDIT : This post was by Xalaten, and it brings an interesting point to light about how SW has always worked...
The original hype for this game was AA. The new hype thread started AFTER reviews started pouring in.This thread is rendered null and void.
It's sad people pick and choose the rules around here when it suits their purposes but we have ALWAYS had a rule around here that hype thread votes occur BEFORE reviews start coming out, NOT after. Fact. Period. Undeniable.
Before all the French 100s started coming out the original hype thread for this game was AA. Once all the French biased 100s started coming out this thread was made and people changed the hype due to all the 100s it was getting from early reviews.
You all know darn well that is wrong and has never been allowed. Period. End of subject.
This hype thread is null and void.
Heavy Rain is not a flop because the original hype thread was at AA. It only became AAA after the reviews started coming out. In other words, Heavy Rain is OFFICIALLY not a flop unless System Wars has arbitrarily changed the rules.Xalaten
8.0 - 8.5 AA
I would be surprised at AAA, honestly. AA is a great score, and that's what I see GS giving it.
It's too experimental for GS, imo.
SolidTy
i hope so, for a game like fable 2 which is a great game gets an 8.5, this QTE fest should get nothing more than 8.5
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
8.0 - 8.5 AA
I would be surprised at AAA, honestly. AA is a great score, and that's what I see GS giving it.
It's too experimental for GS, imo.
Idream2010
i hope so, for a game like fable 2 which is a great game gets an 8.5, this QTE fest should get nothing more than 8.5
I got a 950 Gamerscore in Fable II, but I think Fable 1 was better. I still liked it though. Fable 3 will be interesting to see it unveiled.
This is made by the guys that did Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit, so I hope people know what to expect.
[QUOTE="Idream2010"]
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
8.0 - 8.5 AA
I would be surprised at AAA, honestly. AA is a great score, and that's what I see GS giving it.
It's too experimental for GS, imo.
SolidTy
i hope so, for a game like fable 2 which is a great game gets an 8.5, this QTE fest should get nothing more than 8.5
I got a 950 Gamerscore in Fable II, but I think Fable 1 was better. I still liked it though. Fable 3 will be interesting to see it unveiled.
This is made by the guys that did Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit, so I hope people know what to expect.
i liked the demo, it definitely could get 9.0 here, im gonna say 8.5 on record, but wouldnt be the least surprised if it gets 9.0 HERE
Movie???Great score from IGN ( I like their reviews more than GS )....can't wait to buy this game idc if it's only 8 hours that's long for a movie
chikenfriedrice
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
8.0 - 8.5 AA
I would be surprised at AAA, honestly. AA is a great score, and that's what I see GS giving it.
It's too experimental for GS, imo.
Idream2010
i hope so, for a game like fable 2 which is a great game gets an 8.5, this QTE fest should get nothing more than 8.5
Except this isn't a QTE fest. Fisson Mailed.
And Fable 2 is an awful game.
[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]Movie???Great score from IGN ( I like their reviews more than GS )....can't wait to buy this game idc if it's only 8 hours that's long for a movie
falldogout
just a wise crack
[QUOTE="Idream2010"]
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
8.0 - 8.5 AA
I would be surprised at AAA, honestly. AA is a great score, and that's what I see GS giving it.
It's too experimental for GS, imo.
CMPunk13
i hope so, for a game like fable 2 which is a great game gets an 8.5, this QTE fest should get nothing more than 8.5
Except this isn't a QTE fest. Fisson Mailed.
And Fable 2 is an awful game.
uh its not a qte fest, play the demo before you defend it. oh yeah on Fable 2, oh ok you dont have a 360
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]So because it's not for everyone, critics should give it a bad score? That's a horrible idea. LOL no kidding. That's so ludicrous it's unbelievable. Only games that are broad enough for tween girls to enjoy should be given a 9? A 9 means it can't be missed for GAMERS, not that grandma is going to eat it up.Have fun with it, but I'm not touching this bs with a 10 foot pole.
Frankly the way the media eats this game up annoys me. This game is very clearly not for everyone, and yet everyone just dumps 9's and 10's on it? Come on. All I can say is there will be a lot of returns for this game from angry customers, who saw high reviews and bought something that cater's to a very specific niche that they weren't a part of.
NAPK1NS
Heavy Rain is really cleaning up. The Kotaku review has me a bit worried, though. See the exert from the "Hated" section of their review-
[quote="Kotaku"]Distracting Voices: Speech is important in this game, but to my American ears I had trouble believing in the otherwise powerful virtual reality of this world when I heard actors speaking in what sounded like fraudulent American accents. The children, key characters in the game, are the ones who sound the weirdest. This won't bother some, nor will the occasional lack of precise lip-syncing, but it was the one thing that threatened to shatter the illusion and cheapen my emotional investment in Heavy Rain's world. Movement Errors: As much as I liked the basic controls, Heavy Rain does have some of that fixed-camera old Resident Evil problem. You're pushing the stick one way as a character walks through a door. The camera angle switches. And suddenly you are disoriented, pushing the stick all the wrong ways and your brilliant private eye is walking in silly small circles. It doesn't happen often, but it's a pitfall Quantic Dream didn't manage to fully bound. Sometimes Dull Lead Characters: Video game developers often have to decide whether to leave their playable protagonists as blank entities, the better for players to see themselves in the shoes of, or to make the lead characters distinct, a love it or hate it kind of persona. Three of Heavy Rain's leads are more of the blank type, which can make them bores compared to private eye Scott Shelby, who seems like an interesting and complex guy from the get-go. We all will have our favorites, and I finished Heavy Rain having enjoyed the times I felt I was more of a specific character and less of the time I felt I was controlling an avatar.
Part of what makes Mass Effect 2 so great are the conversations you have with people, and the quality of the voice acting (along with interesting characters). That's something Heavy Rain will have to do well to truly capture the player's attention. I will say, though, given all the praise, it's probably not too big of a concern in Heavy Rain. Just an observation.
Because I've seen numerous cows defend ownage by saying "SW as a whole voted __" and now here you sit trying to account for one group when the poll clearly stated overwhelming favor of AAA. Pathetic, but you're 100% cow so I didn't expect any less. What poll are you talking about? Last I saw, AAA was ahead of AA by one vote. But this happens with every game released, people of a certain group want another game for a console not theirs to flop for the laugh so they overhype it in the polls. Nothing new, just to be expected.[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] How is that funny? Explain? Are you saying if it flops lems are owned too? Cause SW hyped AAA?
Chutebox
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27176550
Once again, this thread was BEFORE Espadas thread. Note that the AAA votes are 126 and the AA 87 and everyone seems to act like this thread doesn't exist and again another 'fanboy group overhypes the polls' conspiracy theory. If everyone is so confident in this game (I voted A BTW) then why so much insecurity?...
i hope so, for a game like fable 2 which is a great game gets an 8.5, this QTE fest should get nothing more than 8.5Idream2010So reviews are coming in explicitly saying that it's NOT a QTE fest and you're still saying it is? Some people just can't accept that they were wrong it seems.
Gamesradar gives it a 7/10
Heavy Rain is an admirably ambitious creation capable of engrossing the mind and engaging the emotions like few games that have gone before. Visually and aurally it's a decadent feast for the senses, but its frequent descents into ham-fisted schlock and downright broken storytelling ultimately make it a clumsy case of style over substance. It's a likeable mess if you don't think too hard, but nevertheless, a mess it remains.
http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/heavy-rain/review/heavy-rain/a-2010021011352557014/g-2006051716470918010
in case anybody hadn't already posted it
[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]So because it's not for everyone, critics should give it a bad score? That's a horrible idea. LOL no kidding. That's so ludicrous it's unbelievable. Only games that are broad enough for tween girls to enjoy should be given a 9? A 9 means it can't be missed for GAMERS, not that grandma is going to eat it up. What's the point of a review if all it does is tell people who were already going to buy the game, that they should buy the game?Have fun with it, but I'm not touching this bs with a 10 foot pole.
Frankly the way the media eats this game up annoys me. This game is very clearly not for everyone, and yet everyone just dumps 9's and 10's on it? Come on. All I can say is there will be a lot of returns for this game from angry customers, who saw high reviews and bought something that cater's to a very specific niche that they weren't a part of.
Hahadouken
What poll are you talking about? Last I saw, AAA was ahead of AA by one vote. But this happens with every game released, people of a certain group want another game for a console not theirs to flop for the laugh so they overhype it in the polls. Nothing new, just to be expected.[QUOTE="Chutebox"]
[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"] Because I've seen numerous cows defend ownage by saying "SW as a whole voted __" and now here you sit trying to account for one group when the poll clearly stated overwhelming favor of AAA. Pathetic, but you're 100% cow so I didn't expect any less. MizFitAwesome
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27176550
Once again, this thread was BEFORE Espadas thread. Note that the AAA votes are 126 and the AA 87 and everyone seems to act like this thread doesn't exist and again another 'fanboy group overhypes the polls' conspiracy theory. If everyone is so confident in this game (I voted A BTW) then why so much insecurity?...
This thread was after Espada's :|
And I've explained myself why I did it.
Anyways, oddly enough I agree with you, Espada's was AA, mine AAA, people changed the hype from AA to AAA so they have to stick with it, I don't know what would happen if doesn't meet the hype :?
I think fanboys are becoming boring, everyone wants to play it safe :P
LOL no kidding. That's so ludicrous it's unbelievable. Only games that are broad enough for tween girls to enjoy should be given a 9? A 9 means it can't be missed for GAMERS, not that grandma is going to eat it up. What's the point of a review if all it does is tell people who were already going to buy the game, that they should buy the game?[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]So because it's not for everyone, critics should give it a bad score? That's a horrible idea. Vaasman
What's the point of a review if all it does is tell people who were already NOT going to buy the game, that they should NOT buy the game?
LOL no kidding. That's so ludicrous it's unbelievable. Only games that are broad enough for tween girls to enjoy should be given a 9? A 9 means it can't be missed for GAMERS, not that grandma is going to eat it up. What's the point of a review if all it does is tell people who were already going to buy the game, that they should buy the game?But then what's the point of a review that just mirrors popular opinion, subsequent to that popular opinion already being formed..? :\[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]So because it's not for everyone, critics should give it a bad score? That's a horrible idea. Vaasman
What poll are you talking about? Last I saw, AAA was ahead of AA by one vote. But this happens with every game released, people of a certain group want another game for a console not theirs to flop for the laugh so they overhype it in the polls. Nothing new, just to be expected.[QUOTE="Chutebox"]
[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"] Because I've seen numerous cows defend ownage by saying "SW as a whole voted __" and now here you sit trying to account for one group when the poll clearly stated overwhelming favor of AAA. Pathetic, but you're 100% cow so I didn't expect any less. MizFitAwesome
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27176550
Once again, this thread was BEFORE Espadas thread. Note that the AAA votes are 126 and the AA 87 and everyone seems to act like this thread doesn't exist and again another 'fanboy group overhypes the polls' conspiracy theory. If everyone is so confident in this game (I voted A BTW) then why so much insecurity?...
I said a bit up that it is AAA hype. As for the insecurity thing, dunno if that was directed towards me but I don't care if it gets a 7 here. I was just giving my 2 cents.LOL no kidding. That's so ludicrous it's unbelievable. Only games that are broad enough for tween girls to enjoy should be given a 9? A 9 means it can't be missed for GAMERS, not that grandma is going to eat it up. What's the point of a review if all it does is tell people who were already going to buy the game, that they should buy the game?[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]So because it's not for everyone, critics should give it a bad score? That's a horrible idea. Vaasman
I dug up IGN's Football Manager 2009 review. That is what you're suggesting. Here's the Metacritic page for the game by the way. So what happened when this person reviewed the game for the FIFA crowd, rather than the crowd which it was intended for, is that it got **** on for all the wrong reasons, while it in reality is a good game.
It's just the lems voting mostly, the majority of posts by PS3 fans are saying AA.No no, hype AA. This game isn't for everyone and the reviewer could easily give it AA. Don't set us up for a flop PS fans:x
iKINGBOBi
[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]It's just the lems voting mostly, the majority of posts by PS3 fans are saying AA.No no, hype AA. This game isn't for everyone and the reviewer could easily give it AA. Don't set us up for a flop PS fans:x
Eddie-Vedder
Yeah, the lems are just trying to set us up for ownage. Official Hype AA confirmed
[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]It's just the lems voting mostly, the majority of posts by PS3 fans are saying AA.No no, hype AA. This game isn't for everyone and the reviewer could easily give it AA. Don't set us up for a flop PS fans:x
Eddie-Vedder
Clearly a game not for everyone so my guess is that it'll end up AA here at GS.SolletCorrect, this game is not for everyone and it baffles my why many people have voted AAA, leads me to believe the poll is hijacked by fanboys setting the game up for a flop.
[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] It's just the lems voting mostly, the majority of posts by PS3 fans are saying AA. Swift_Boss_A
Clearly a game not for everyone so my guess is that it'll end up AA here at GS.SolletCorrect, this game is not for everyone and it baffles my why many people have voted AAA, leads me to believe the poll is hijacked by fanboys setting the game up for a flop. And here I thought people were overreacting when they said cows would backpedal and claim conspiracy. I'm sad to see I was wrong :| In any case, I voted AAA. I'm neither cow nor lemming nor anything. Your logic is disproven, even though it didn't need proof.
[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"] It's just the lems voting mostly, the majority of posts by PS3 fans are saying AA. Swift_Boss_A
Clearly a game not for everyone so my guess is that it'll end up AA here at GS.SolletCorrect, this game is not for everyone and it baffles my why many people have voted AAA, leads me to believe the poll is hijacked by fanboys setting the game up for a flop. Wouldn't be surprised people voting on purpose AAA with main and alt accounts etc.
Correct, this game is not for everyone and it baffles my why many people have voted AAA, leads me to believe the poll is hijacked by fanboys setting the game up for a flop. And here I thought people were overreacting when they said cows would backpedal and claim conspiracy. I'm sad to see I was wrong :| In any case, I voted AAA. I'm neither cow nor lemming nor anything. Your logic is disproven, even though it didn't need proof. Logic disproven? Your one person... How do you explain the lack of A votes and below? What do you think lems are voting for? They clearly think the game is garbage, this board has had countless threads claiming so. So where are their low votes? Hmmmm.[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Sollet"]Clearly a game not for everyone so my guess is that it'll end up AA here at GS.Skittles_McGee
Well it looks like the hype is AAA indeed :shock: Weird a game like inFAMOUS didn't get AAA hype though the gameplay definitely had wider appeal but Heavy Rain is getting AAA hype when the gameplay certainly wont appeal to everyone. Looks like gamers are getting a lot more confident :P Anyway I still feel it will get AA here, like Ty said, it's too experimental for GS. Im just glad the game is getting recognition and being well received.Swift_Boss_A
[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] Logic disproven? Your one person... How do you explain the lack of A votes and below? What do you think lems are voting for? They clearly think the game is garbage, this board has had countless threads claiming so. So where are their low votes? Hmmmm.Skittles_McGeeBecause it'd be silly to vote A or lower. The large majority of reviews are AAA, with a rare exception here and there. When predicting what it'll get here, it wouldn't make much sense to think "Yeah it'll probably be significantly lower than the average". It might prove true to a few rare games, but those are the exceptions. Not the rule. What are you talking about? Hype is hype, lems have no place voting in a hype thread for a PS3 exclusive, these polls don't mean squat, any poll in SW doesn't mean squat, at best make a thread where ppl just post what they think and then count it up so fanboys aren't a click away from their evil flop scheme lol. First of all you can't have multiple hype threads, this is like the 5th or somehting, 2nd you aren't supposed to make the hype threads when reviews are already coming out, completly defeats the whole purpose of it, and 3rd you don't count the hype from lems and fanboys... They have no place voting. You'd think it's a simple concept to grasp... They called the game garbage and yet there are only 2 A votes? Rightt....
[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]And here I thought people were overreacting when they said cows would backpedal and claim conspiracy. I'm sad to see I was wrong :| In any case, I voted AAA. I'm neither cow nor lemming nor anything. Your logic is disproven, even though it didn't need proof. Logic disproven? Your one person... How do you explain the lack of A votes and below? What do you think lems are voting for? They clearly think the game is garbage, this board has had countless threads claiming so. So where are their low votes? Hmmmm. You actually have a good point, with all the bash threads about Heavy Rain you'd think there would be more people voting A, yet everyone seems to be voting AAA now, but still the official hype is AA so no need to argue over it.[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Correct, this game is not for everyone and it baffles my why many people have voted AAA, leads me to believe the poll is hijacked by fanboys setting the game up for a flop.Eddie-Vedder
[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]No no, hype AA. This game isn't for everyone and the reviewer could easily give it AA. Don't set us up for a flop PS fans:x
Eddie-Vedder
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