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#101 deactivated-59be76f5a5388
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Sonic and the Black Knight TGS Trailer.

I like the theme song better than "Seven Rings in Hand".DocEggmanNega

The trailer.

'Tis win.

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#102 chocolate1325
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Just doesn't seem right to me. It's just my opinion though.
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#103 DocEggmanNega
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Sorry, sir, no opinions allowed here. *writes you a ticket*

That's okay, man. I just love the overall theme and the action looks fun and fast-paced, so I'm looking forward to this.

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#104 chocolate1325
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Not to say I won't get it because I probably will being such a huge Sonic fan.
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#105 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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Sonic and the Black Knight TGS Trailer.

I like the theme song better than "Seven Rings in Hand".DocEggmanNega

I think it's worse but it's close and I don't care to really try to compare as they're both horrible. No singing. Make the singing stop!

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#106 deactivated-59be76f5a5388
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The song needs less vocals, more synth. Not depressing synth. Happy synth.
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#107 Shadow_of_Kirby
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Really?

I liked (most of) the songs from all the games I've played.

Namely, [spoiler] Open Your Heart, It Doesn't Matter, Throw It All Away, Live and Learn, Danced in Fire, Team Chaotix, What I'm Made Of, I Am, All Hail Shadow (SNG ver.), Waking Up, Never Turn Back, and finally SRIH. [/spoiler]

Tagged for those who don't really care what I like.

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#108 DocEggmanNega
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I actually like good vocals, so I like "Knight of the Wind".
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#109 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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it's my opinion that if they sing, they suck. Sonic music shouldn't have lyrics, because no matter how much they try to make it serious and good, it just ends up being lame imo.
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#110 demoman_chaos
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Live and Learn wasnt bad.

I have only one thing to say abotu the trailer:
Sonic is back.

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#111 DocEggmanNega
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And this time, his friends are 100% optional.
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#112 Shadow_of_Kirby
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That's pretty cool that they put in Knuckles and Shadow.

TEH FANZ HAV SPOKEN!1

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#113 sonicphc
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Not sure what to make of this game at present. Sword looks pretty much negligible as far as actual gameplay goes. It's just the graphical touch on the special moves set.
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#114 chocolate1325
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I am in the same situation as you sonicphc I am a bit in the middle about this game as well.
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#115 Chaosjak93
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Sonic looks more cooler with a sword, imo(in my opinion)

Wonder if Tails is going to be in this game.

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#116 Shadow_of_Kirby
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So far, they've only revealed Knuckles (two swords) and Shadow (one sword) as playable characters.

And Sonic, of course, but that's implied.

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#117 chocolate1325
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I am thinking people thought the same when they saw Shadow with guns thinking a Sonic game with guns what could go wrong.

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#118 GaMa729
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Sonic with guns seems kinda stupid, I thought Shadow with guns seemed kinda cool but they didn't make it very good lookin :?
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#119 kbaily
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Sonic with guns seems kinda stupid, I thought Shadow with guns seemed kinda cool but they didn't make it very good lookin :?GaMa729

Well the other problem was that Shadow had cool powers without the guns. This was brought out more in Sonic Next Gen (I know that's not a good example) where Shadow had more use of his powers. He could use "Chaos Spear" which allowed him to stun enemies then use his sort of "kung-fu" like homing attack.

Really if you had cool super powers, why would you bother with a gun. It would be like puting a glock in Superman's hands.

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#120 chocolate1325
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Listen loads of characters have tried new things like Banjo,Fox and Mario Kart. Many critcised games trying something new but when they go back to making a game what it should be. A simple example Twilight Princess was hugely critcised for being to similar to Ocarina of Time. You just sometimes can't please fans.

I am actually starting to like this game a little more. It has potential as long as it keeps the Sonic speed in it then I am fine.

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#121 kbaily
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Listen loads of characters have tried new things like Banjo,Fox and Mario Kart. Many critcised games trying something new but when they go back to making a game what it should be. A simple example Twilight Princess was hugely critcised for being to similar to Ocarina of Time. You just sometimes can't please fans.

I am actually starting to like this game a little more. It has potential as long as it keeps the Sonic speed in it then I am fine.

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#122 chocolate1325
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I have actually heard a few details about this game and it sounds promising but I am not getting excited just yet.
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#123 DarkSmokeNinja
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I just wonder what the Black Knight will be like...
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#124 chocolate1325
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The graphics in the game look better than Sonic Unleashed and this could be awesome because its a Wii exclusive.
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#125 kbaily
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I just wonder what the Black Knight will be like...DarkSmokeNinja

Details are sketchy despite NP's lengthy article.

It's in the vein of "Sonic and the Secret Rings" so it's probably another one of these "Sonic falls asleep reading a book about King Arthur and awakens in medieval times." He's given a sword and sent on a test of knighthood to defeat the Evil Black Knight (this game's Erazor Djinn).

Unlike "Secret Rings" though you'll use the analog stick and Sonic will be able to stop but the stages are straightforward running, jumping, etc. Instead of spazzy flailing, Sonic takes a hint from Twighlight Princess and quick flicks with allow for quick sword swipes and most low level baddies can be taken out with one swipe, so despite the weapon combat, the pacing keeps up unless it's a boss or a toughter baddie. Vids have shown combinations of Sonic spin attacks and the sword turning Sonic into a huge sawblade almost (that could work really well).

Sonic's friends are playable however, unlike the "Adventure" games, the game doesn't force you to play as them, instead taking a cue from Sonic Advance it's optional. You can choose who to play with in a stage. Good for purists who only want to play as Sonic. Good for fans who like playing with friends (why can't you do this more often Sega?!) So far only Shadow and Knuckles have been confirmed and while the friends will supposedly move fast, they'll have their own unique attacks. We don't know if they'll play as themselves or like in "Secret Rings" play as characters from the story Sonic finds himself in.

At this point, it's all we know.

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The Uk's Official Nintendo Magazine also had a brief article about it. They commented on the story, which you should know, by now, and your talking sword ('don't worry about that, we haven't met a single talking sword who wasn't a sound chap').

They also mentioned an improved mission-based level and skill system, Knuckles' and Shadow's playability, and the possibiltity of Richard Jacques doing the soundtrack.

And we all love Richard Jacques! :D

There won't be any MotionPlus control, though.

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The Uk's Official Nintendo Magazine also had a brief article about it. They commented on the story, which you should know, by now, and your talking sword ('don't worry about that, we haven't met a single talking sword who wasn't a sound chap').

They also mentioned an improved mission-based level and skill system, Knuckles' and Shadow's playability, and the possibiltity of Richard Jacques doing the soundtrack.

And we all love Richard Jacques! :D

There won't be any MotionPlus control, though.

Hyper_Hedgehog

 

who's that?

edit; nvm. found it. I wouldn't mind. I just don't want Crap40 doing it. In fact, I don't want any singing period. Sonic Unleashed set the bar for modern Sonic music. Classy tunes and orchestration. Anything less is unacceptable. 

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#128 Shadow_of_Kirby
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OMG CRUSH04 TTLY ROXXORZ MY BOXXORZ LOL!11

U SUK!@1

Anyway, they had BETTER include them in it.

Because the last time they said Knuckles and Shadow were going to be in a game (SU), well...

EDIT: What the...?

It seems a link has wormed its way into my 1337sp33k.

Wherever could it lead? *gasp!*

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#129 chocolate1325
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I think Sonic is slowly going in the right direction and that can only be good news.
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#130 kbaily
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Fellow Sonic fans...may I present, Knuckles the Knight.

What the hell is Knuckles wearing? Anyway though it shows that Sonic's friends in this will be like in "Secret Rings" meaning they'll play as characters from the story as Knuckles was Sinbad before.

No idea if this is a multiplayer thing or perhaps you duel with Knuckles and Shadow as boss fights.

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#131 Shadow_of_Kirby
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How cool is THAT?

There probably will be a Duel Mode of sorts, and that's probably what we're looking at.

Unless the other characters AREN'T available from the start, and you have to recruit them through the aforementioned boss fights.

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#132 deactivated-59be76f5a5388
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Fellow Sonic fans...may I present, Knuckles the Knight.

What the hell is Knuckles wearing? Anyway though it shows that Sonic's friends in this will be like in "Secret Rings" meaning they'll play as characters from the story as Knuckles was Sinbad before.

No idea if this is a multiplayer thing or perhaps you duel with Knuckles and Shadow as boss fights.

kbaily

Lovin' the crazy visor stuff.

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#133 Zoonotics
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Wow, Knux actually looks really good. Doesn't look dorky or akward or anything... impressive!

As for Shadow... well, I think this comic hits the mark. :D

 

http://www.fireball20xl.com/tms/index.php?id=297

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#134 kjhg53
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Still he does look epic and now time to add this game to the list I want.
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#135 Apoklitty
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this looks awsome
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#136 sonicphc
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Yes, Sega is, unfortunately for fans, extremely good at trailers, CG, and advertising.
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#137 Apoklitty
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well i read a preveiw in nintendo power and they really liked PLAYING it
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#138 chocolate1325
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Hopefully the cut scenes are better than Secret of the Rings.
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*GASP!*

Don't say stuff like that!

It might open the gates of hell!

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#140 Apoklitty
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Hopefully the cut scenes are better than Secret of the Rings.chocolate1325

yes much better

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#141 chocolate1325
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After my dissapointment with Sonic Unleashed I am not sure if I will get this game unless it scores well. At the moment while it does look promising it could end up going terribly wrong hope not because I am fed up with 3D Sonic almost.
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i love unleashed but only half of it:lol:
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#143 kbaily
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After my dissapointment with Sonic Unleashed I am not sure if I will get this game unless it scores well. At the moment while it does look promising it could end up going terribly wrong hope not because I am fed up with 3D Sonic almost.chocolate1325

May I offer you a word of advice? One thing do with Sonic games, is I rarely pay full price for one unless it's one I really want to play. All the ones I played on the GC, I got used in bargain bins. I got SA2:B for a mere $9. Sonic games rarely get high scores these days but I like Sonic and I say "I want to play this, but since the scores aren't great, I'll wait for a price drop." Notice that I haven't played either Sonic Chronicles or Unleashed yet mainly because hopefully I'll get them for Christmas, then it's someone else's money instead of my own. The last Sonic games I paid full price for were Secret Rings and Sonic Rush Adventure but I didn't regret those purchases.

I found when I don't pay full retail price for a Sonic game, it doesn't disappoint me as much. Look at my Sonic Next Gen review. Now some might say I was a little too nice to that game, but then again I only paid $19.80 for it. Had I say, bought it at launch and spent $60, my review would've had about 20% more bile in it. I mean I held off buying the first Sonic Riders for a long time and waited until it dropped to about $30 but I surprisingly ended up liking it.

Also I always stay pessimisstic about Sonic. I have just learned not to buy into hype and judge the game for myself. I don't put as much stock into reviews. More and more I see reviewers scores so varied and all too often I think scores are inflated for a lot of games, while others are slammed when they shouldn't be. Look at IGN's scores for Unleashed. The Wii version got a 7.2 while the 360 version got a 4.2, but they were reviewed by different guys too and honeslty watching the videos, the 360 reviewer didn't seem pretty professional to me compared to the Wii reviewer. He seemed to just complain like a fanboy and I don't think Unleashed could be worse than "Sonic Next Gen" in that there's less playable characters and the game seems way more polished than that mess of 2006.

Also after the Jeff Gertsman incident last year, I figured we'd all be seeing game reviews with a bit more skepticism.

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#144 chocolate1325
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You do have a good point there kbaily but I have been a Sonic fan for along time. Sonic Next Gen is the only Sonic game that I have seen have a price drop quickly though.
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#145 kbaily
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You do have a good point there kbaily but I have been a Sonic fan for along time. Sonic Next Gen is the only Sonic game that I have seen have a price drop quickly though.chocolate1325

I don't know how the pricing works over in the UK, but honestly if you're pessimisstic about the series as I am, I wouldn't go pay full price for any recent games from now on especially if there's other games you want to play more at the current time.

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#146 DarkSmokeNinja
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Does anyone think that DarkSpine Sonic will be in this game since its a storybook series Sonic game like secret rings?
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#147 kjhg53
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I read a little about it in GamePro (I think) and you know the first thing they start talking about is Shadow the Hedgehog and his guns. But other then that it said that you don't have to deal with the villagers if you don't want to but well you got a big sword...
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#148 kbaily
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Does anyone think that DarkSpine Sonic will be in this game since its a storybook series Sonic game like secret rings?DarkSmokeNinja

It depends on if he's collecting Chaos Emeralds or Magical Rings again. I did like Darkspine Sonic though.

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#149 Shadow_of_Kirby
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He could be collecting 7 Goblets of Camelot for all we know.

I sure hope the Black Knight tells Sonic it's merely a flesh wound when he's defeated...

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#150 DarkSmokeNinja
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Me, I actually prefer Super Sonic over DarkSpineSonic.