Terrorist Attack In France: ISIS Claims Responsibility, Hostage Takers Execute 89. At Least 129 Dead.

I don't want to exaggerate, but with all the attacks France has suffered recently it is basically under a state of war. I don't see how France stays out of Syria now if ISIS was behind this attack (some are saying that the level of sophistication suggest Al-Qaeda could be responsible).

118 dead in the concert hall only now, more dead in the rest of the city...

"ISIS supporters praising the attacks on social media"

Those people need bad things done to them...

Those ppl .....i don't know even how to describe them ... they're just disgusting.

@Master_Live Yeah , they should've been quicker i guess....

These zealots just want a war, that is exactly what they want, we shouldn't validate them by taking aggressive action.

People are starting to believe that it was Al Qaeda instead of ISIS.

This is insane and it´s not even the end.

We have thousands of men going in over the borders and coming later when people start getting asylum and can bring up familiy, it will be easy for ISIS to mix with those and get into Europe.

This is sick, 100 people executed during a festive evening......

Horrible, absolutely horrible.

French police put everyone under a gag order before they went into the concert hall so news stations got staggered coverage and reports. They started doing this because of the Charlie Hebdo shooters watching themselves on live TV and knowing what the authorities were up to during that attack.

Hopefully the people responsible will be brought to justice, but there won't be any unfortunate reprisal incidents against innocent people. Facebook in the US is already full of people who are calling for a Christian Crusade to destroy most of the Middle East.

This is a very horrible act. My thoughts go out to paris, the people there, and anyone that knows someone from there. Hopefully these damned monstrous beast that have done this will be stopped and justice is served.

I posted a response to this but it just disappeared. GS is acting weird.

Anyways, France has been active militarily in Northern Africa and the Middle East in the past decade or so, so it's not surprising if France made enemies in those regions.

Either way, France will retaliate and rightfully so.

I'm not surprised this happened but I'm still in shock at the sheer brutality of the ISIS. I hope the horse hasn't already bolted in being able to stop their violence from spreading to other regions. Past attacks in the west have been lone wolves with little training or experience but this appears to be coordinated and possibly carried out by veterans of the conflicts in the mid east and Africa who have seen combat and killed before.

France is already involved in Syria, in at least two roles:

1. As a contributor to the "anti-ISIS" airstrikes (They targeted an oil distribution center just four days ago.)
2. As a supplier of weapons and ammunition for anti-government terrorists (Hollande admitted that France has delivered weapons to anti-Assad militants.).

Sure, now I'm expecting a more enhanced approach...

What a fucking mess.

Will France hit them back harder?

It´s France not America or Russia.

If anything the government is going to launch a massive Islam acceptance campaign and jail people criticizing the attacks online for Islamophobia.

Perhaps but i think what will happen is a time of morning and than France will move on.

We won´t see a public response like America would.

Hopefully now they'll see the wisdom of America's gun laws.

This wouldn't have happened in America.

I agree, it's a deterrent in itself knowing anyone can be holding a weapon on their body.

@Jaysonguy: Because a culture of gun usage has prevent mass shootings in the US.

This is true, it would be about 2,997 people via multiple hijacked planes or take place across multiple schools on a near monthly basis.

How? it was a hostage situation taken by surprise. Someone's pointing a gun at you , what can you possibly do?

It's like the Barbarians of the Western Roman Empire.

At one person? Yes you're stuck.

At more than one? You have options.

When you're talking a group of people? You have even more.

I'm not saying everyone should be an action movie star but you have options instead of waiting to die.

Does Sandy Hook ring a bell or V-Tech?

But please keep your ignorance out of this thread.

Let's be realistic, we're not some veteran soldier, it's easier said than done.... and i don't think you would carry gun to a concert !

I guess you're not familiar with France's hijab ban, Charlie Hebdo cartoons, or the fact that France is active militarily in Northern Africa and the Middle East supporting their governments and factions in fighting Islamic extremists....

153 dead, but 25% of social media wants to talk about how muslims are the real victims

Are they?

If only the passengers who were on board the flights that were hijacked on September 11 2001 had had guns, the Twin Towers might still be standing today. Only bleeding-heart liberals believe that airline passengers shouldn't be able to carry guns!

As usual, it seems that "liberals" are the real enemy.

Wow this is totally fucked up. I can't understand the thought process of people who think committing these atrocities will actually help their cause.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Muslims&src=tren 400k tweets within the last hours

"They're going to start blaming Muslims because of this attack"
"Not all Muslims are terrorist"
"Terrorist killed Muslims too in Syria"
"Muslims are victims too"
"Forget about the 153 dead victims. We Muslims gotta defend ourselves on the internet."
"I am a Muslim, and I'm not a terrorist. I am a victim too"
"Muslims are victim too"
"What about Muslims"

Every living person wants to be a victim, did the decease wanted to be victims?

Those who conceal carry tend to carry just about everywhere.

In a situation where over 100 people died, I doubt someone being armed could have made it any worse.

No. They need to be brought to proper, civil justice and shown that we will not sink to their level and give them exactly what they want... martyrdom.

They need to be locked away in a tiny cell to live out the rest of their miserable lives away from anyone they could influence to do the same.

I am disgusted by what is going on, but I will not entertain the thoughts of doing exactly what they have done to the West back. It's exactly the wrong course of action if we wish to achieve actual peace and harmony. The only reason why extremists have been able to penetrate Western society is because we've fed into the idea of xenophobia and intolerance to those who are different. It lets them say to their community "Look! They hate us and threaten our religion and community, we must stop them!".

But I can't tell you the right course of action, because if I did know it, I'd win a Nobel Peace Prize.

@iloveatlus: Ahhh, the good ol' SJWs. They can't actually think before they post.

On the news some people claim that the soccer match was the real target but there was too much security. Can you imagine terrorists throwing explosives in a stadium filled with 80000 people on live television?

Gun free zones. What were you saying about ignorance?

@mjorh:

I'm not a soldier or violent person either but I have read enough about what some of these Islamic extremist groups do to their captives to know I wouldn't want to be captured alive. You don't know what you are capable of until you do it but I might try to get them to shoot me dead by rushing them just to avoid torture. I was reading about that mall attack in Kenya and they did stuff like sharpening the victims fingers to the bone and making use them to write Koran verses in blood. I'm really hoping I never find myself in the type of situation where I have to chose between trying to get a quick death and staying alive as long as possible in the hope of rescue.

It's clearly been somewhat effective. Look at the continued strengthening of Isis forces despite the terrible atrocities they continue to commit. They aren't trying to convert everyone. Just those who believe violence is the answer to perceived injustice. And there are clearly plenty of those kinds of people around.

I was wondering when the news would slow here and the stupidity would kick in. looks like we've passed that threshold..

Perhaps in the short run. But if you continue to kick the hornets nest its going to rain shit down upon you, and in the end everyone will lose out. They've effectively enabled more western sentiment to support action against them.

@Master_Live said:

FREE LEGO!?

HOLY SHIT!

Personally, anything short of nuking Raqqa is an exercise in futility.

Exactly
What happened to good ol fashioned school massacres?