Teen shoots tranny for tricking him

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#1 Bucked20
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Do you think he was justified in shooting him?

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#3 Ring_of_fire
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No.
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#5 Zeviander
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Title is misleading.
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#6 Bucked20
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Its a harsh lesson that he needed to learn,Im sure he wont be tricking other straight men,plus he's 22 messing around with a 16 year old
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#7 ghoklebutter
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No.
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#8 dude_brahmski
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Umm, that is a pretty disproportionate reaction.

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#9 lamprey263
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if it bugs you so much best thing to do is walk away, otherwise assault or murder charges are just going to bring public attention to it
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#10 dave123321
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No
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#11 mattykovax
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The only logical answer is no.
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#12 JigglyWiggly_
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Brag about it?

Why would you brag that you have 0 awareness to tell the feature differences between a male and a female?

Took me less than a second to tell that was a guy.

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#13 heeweesRus
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Use this avatar, bucked

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#14 mattbbpl
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The only logical answer is no.mattykovax
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#15 Bucked20
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Brag about it?

Why would you brag that you have 0 awareness to tell the feature differences between a male and a female?

Took me less than a second to tell that was a guy.

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Some people really can't tell the difference,plus at 16 he was probably so horny he didn't even notice
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#16 Opi0us
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Yeah that's a no.

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#17 deactivated-5c74ba2955026
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There wasn't any need to resort to such extreme measures over something so trivial 

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#18 bobaban
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yea, lie then die
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#19 MissLibrarian
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No.

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#20 megagene
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If anyone in this scenario deserves to be shot (an I'm not necessarily saying anyone does), the gunman should have shot himself for being such a dumbass punk.
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#21 ReadingRainbow4
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bragging about shooting a tranny in the leg will surely kick-start his rap career.

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#22 kingkong0124
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Talk about an overreaction...while the trans person was in the wrong, you don't respond this way, period.

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#23 ad1x2
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I would be pretty pissed if a transexual tricked me but there are other legal ways to resolve that. Shooting the person was going too far. Bragging about it via text message was just stupid.
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#24 cgi15
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I thought the tranny would get in trouble for trying to be with a 16 year-old, but apparently Florida's close-in-age exception lets 23 year-olds be with 16 year-olds. Not exactly close-in-age in my opinion (or other states), but it looks like this kid is going to get some jail time added to his already in-jail time.

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#25 cgi15
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But also, I think a lot of people are underestimating how they would react if they found out a sexual interest was of the same sex secretly. Most people would not say "Oh, that is cool, lets have sex still."

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#26 PannicAtack
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But also, I think a lot of people are underestimating how they would react if they found out a sexual interest was of the same sex secretly. Most people would not say "Oh, that is cool, lets have sex still."

cgi15
I imagine most sane people would probably just run out of the room in a huff. Not, y'know, try to murder them.
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#27 Kurushio
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Wow... That is hard to believe. It's 11pm there and 81 degrees!! Crazy.
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#28 LordSadic
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But also, I think a lot of people are underestimating how they would react if they found out a sexual interest was of the same sex secretly. Most people would not say "Oh, that is cool, lets have sex still."

cgi15

Or you know, tell him just to leave, it ain't that hard to use words dude.

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#29 dave123321
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Talk about an overreaction...while the trans person was in the wrong, you don't respond this way, period.

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It's not really clear that she intentionally misled him.
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#30 The4thVIII
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Is it a hate crime if he shot him for tricking him? That doesn't sound like a hate crime, just a good reaction overload. Personally, most people would use violence, but shooting doesn't fly in most first-world countries, he should have known that. Also, they did not show the face but nothing there looked like a women.
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#31 branketra
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Lyinbg about gender is serious business. I cannot really comment on situations like this because words lack the emotion which is part of the message I want to express..

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#32 tehMoerz
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No, he could've said GTFO, simple as that.

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#33 The4thVIII
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No, he could've said GTFO, simple as that.

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Do we know if it was his house? Also no, someone sexually tricking you into physical contact is not that simple, it's a freaking felony in many cases.
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#34 Teenaged
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plus at 16 he was probably so horny he didn't even notice Bucked20
That's his problem.

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#35 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="tehMoerz"]

No, he could've said GTFO, simple as that.

The4thVIII

Do we know if it was his house?

Also no, someone sexually tricking you into physical contact is not that simple, it's a freaking felony in many cases.

According to "Coco": "Spencer had originally expressed interest in dating her, thinking she was a woman, but when she revealed her true gender -- that's when things took a violent turn."

According to TPD: "Spencer lured her to 'this' home, pulled out a gun, stole her purse, and then shot her"

I don't see where she "tricked" him, or am I missing some of the story? 

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#37 The4thVIII
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It's a He said He said thing. And at what point did he admit he was a guy? Was it after? And if he really did shoot him even though he knew he was not really a female, then he self-owned himself and clearly alreayd has an interest. So there is a missing portion of the story.
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#38 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="The4thVIII"]

Do we know if it was his house?

Also no, someone sexually tricking you into physical contact is not that simple, it's a freaking felony in many cases.

thegerg

According to "Coco": "Spencer had originally expressed interest in dating her, thinking she was a woman, but when she revealed her true gender -- that's when things took a violent turn."

According to TPD: "Spencer lured her to 'this' home, pulled out a gun, stole her purse, and then shot her"

I don't see where she "tricked" him, or am I missing some of the story? 

She portrayed herself as being female, a sex that she is not.

She revealed it to him, then he stole her purse and shot her (according to the video). Or is she not allowed to publicly identify as a female at all?

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#39 The4thVIII
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] She revealed it to him, then he stole her purse and shot her. Or is she not allowed to publicly identify as a female at all?

AIf she isn't lying what point was this? After physical activity? Which is not legal.
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#41 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] She portrayed herself as being female, a sex that she is not. thegerg

She revealed it to him, then he stole her purse and shot her (according to the video). Or is she not allowed to publicly identify as a female at all?

She is allowed to do that if she wants, that doesn't mean that the other guy wasn't tricked.

There's no indication from the video that she had any intent to deceive him. Unless someone has a more in-depth coverage of the story that indicates in some way that she intended to deceive him, it seems to me that a lot of people are jumping to conclusions w/o any evidence to support their speculation.
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#42 The4thVIII
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[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] She revealed it to him, then he stole her purse and shot her (according to the video). Or is she not allowed to publicly identify as a female at all?Inconsistancy
She is allowed to do that if she wants, that doesn't mean that the other guy wasn't tricked.

There's no indication from the video that she had any intent to deceive him. Unless someone has a more in-depth coverage of the story that indicates in some way that she intended to deceive him, it seems to me that a lot of people are jumping to conclusions w/o any evidence to support their speculation.

Like you? No one filmed him bringing her to the house, it's he said they said we said.
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#44 EagleEyedOne
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No, that is a bit harsh. A broken nose would have been sufficient for such deception.
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#45 metroidprime55
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No, it wasn't justified.
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#46 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="thegerg"] She is allowed to do that if she wants, that doesn't mean that the other guy wasn't tricked.

There's no indication from the video that she had any intent to deceive him. Unless someone has a more in-depth coverage of the story that indicates in some way that she intended to deceive him, it seems to me that a lot of people are jumping to conclusions w/o any evidence to support their speculation.

" it seems to me that a lot of people are jumping to conclusions w/o any evidence to support their speculation." You're doing the same. Do you have any evidence that this person was even shot?

I said there's no indication that she did trick him, not that she absolutely didn't.
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#48 Smatmat
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Holy **** people are actually debating if its ok to shoot a trans person because they decided not disclose. Godammit I wish all you people would just erase yourselves from society.

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#50 The_Power_of_X
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Something tells me he didn't shoot the person because he felt "tricked". He probably felt aroused by revelation and shot the person because he didn't want to accept his feelings. If I found out my crush was orignally a dude, sure I would be furious but I wouldn't attack the person. Just accept it and move on.