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#51 Shottayouth13-
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I keep saying this, transsexuals should just date other transsexuals, or at least have the decency to tell the truth from the get go. They're only setting up themselves for injury or worse when they withhold such vital information.
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I think what the tranny did should be considered sexual assault.

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#55 EagleEyedOne
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I think what the tranny did should be considered sexual assault.

GummiRaccoon
That is logical. The tranny should have asked firsthand if the man was okay with homosexual interactions. Otherwise, the prostitute deserved what was coming to him.
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#56 Smatmat
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I think what the tranny did should be considered sexual assault.

GummiRaccoon

Why? How the hell can consenual sex be **** assault, that makes no logical sense.

Also, the word "tranny" is a derogatory term. You shouldn't be able to use it in a thread title just like you shouldn't be able to make a thread about **** What the hell mods.

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#57 EagleEyedOne
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I think what the tranny did should be considered sexual assault.

Smatmat

Why? How the hell can consenual sex be **** assault, that makes no logical sense.

Also, the word "tranny" is a derogatory term. You shouldn't be able to use it in a thread title just like you shouldn't be able to make a thread about **** What the hell mods.

It wasn't consensual.
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#58 deactivated-5acfa3a8bc51d
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They both deserve punishment for their crimes.
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#59 shoot-first
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Then don't hang with trannys.

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#60 Inconsistancy
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I think what the tranny did should be considered sexual assault.GummiRaccoon
That is logical.

The tranny should have asked firsthand if the man was okay with homosexual interactions. Otherwise, the prostitute deserved what was coming to him.EagleEyedOne

They both deserve punishment for their crimes.playmynutz

According to "Coco": "Spencer had originally expressed interest in dating her, thinking she was a woman, but when she revealed her true gender -- that's when things took a violent turn."

According to TPD: "Spencer lured her to 'this' home, pulled out a gun, stole her purse, and then shot her"

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You all seem so certain that the transgener individual did something wrong, but the story in no way indicates this. Unless you have another source?

You're garbage, murder (or attempted) is not acceptible at all.

 

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#61 deactivated-5acfa3a8bc51d
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Then don't hang with trannys.

shoot-first
Then I agree with this dude. I don't need to hear about "tranny" news anyways
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#62 chicknfeet
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Nope
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#63 MakeMeaSammitch
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no, but trannies need to be honest, these things are gonna happen otherwise.

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#64 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I think what the tranny did should be considered sexual assault.

Smatmat

 

Why? How the hell can consenual sex be **** assault, that makes no logical sense.

Also, the word "tranny" is a derogatory term. You shouldn't be able to use it in a thread title just like you shouldn't be able to make a thread about **** What the hell mods.

He didn't consent to having sex with someone with a dick.

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#65 ghoklebutter
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I think what the tranny did should be considered sexual assault.

Smatmat

 

Why? How the hell can consenual sex be **** assault, that makes no logical sense.

Also, the word "tranny" is a derogatory term. You shouldn't be able to use it in a thread title just like you shouldn't be able to make a thread about **** What the hell mods.

I don't know long you've been around here, but this is certainly not a place very friendly to us trans* folks. Literally every thread about trans* issues is full of transphobes. So don't expect to persuade anyone.

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"][QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"]That is logical.

The tranny should have asked firsthand if the man was okay with homosexual interactions. Otherwise, the prostitute deserved what was coming to him.Inconsistancy

They both deserve punishment for their crimes.playmynutz

According to "Coco": "Spencer had originally expressed interest in dating her, thinking she was a woman, but when she revealed her true gender -- that's when things took a violent turn."

According to TPD: "Spencer lured her to 'this' home, pulled out a gun, stole her purse, and then shot her"

---

You all seem so certain that the transgener individual did something wrong, but the story in no way indicates this. Unless you have another source?

You're garbage, murder (or attempted) is not acceptible at all.

 

^ This
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#67 Mink
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Anyone that gives me head holds a place of honor. But no one should be harmed for any reason. 

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#68 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="Smatmat"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I think what the tranny did should be considered sexual assault.

ghoklebutter

 

Why? How the hell can consenual sex be **** assault, that makes no logical sense.

Also, the word "tranny" is a derogatory term. You shouldn't be able to use it in a thread title just like you shouldn't be able to make a thread about **** What the hell mods.

I don't know long you've been around here, but this is certainly not a place very friendly to us trans* folks. Literally every thread about trans* issues is full of transphobes. So don't expect to persuade anyone.

Tricking a hetero male to have sex with a trans is like slipping ghb into a girls drinks.

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#69 Mink
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="Smatmat"]

 

Why? How the hell can consenual sex be **** assault, that makes no logical sense.

Also, the word "tranny" is a derogatory term. You shouldn't be able to use it in a thread title just like you shouldn't be able to make a thread about **** What the hell mods.

GummiRaccoon

I don't know long you've been around here, but this is certainly not a place very friendly to us trans* folks. Literally every thread about trans* issues is full of transphobes. So don't expect to persuade anyone.

Tricking a hetero male to have sex with a trans is like slipping ghb into a girls drinks.

Not really, I'm a lesbian, I wouldn't lose my mind if a transexual went down on me and I didn't know they weren't really a woman. But if someone drugged me and had their way with me, then I'm calling the cops.
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#70 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] I don't know long you've been around here, but this is certainly not a place very friendly to us trans* folks. Literally every thread about trans* issues is full of transphobes. So don't expect to persuade anyone.

Mink

Tricking a hetero male to have sex with a trans is like slipping ghb into a girls drinks.

Not really, I'm a lesbian, I wouldn't lose my mind if a transexual went down on me and I didn't know they weren't really a woman. But if someone drugged me and had their way with me, then I'm calling the cops.

 

You see that part where I said it was the equivalent for hetero males?  You then went on to say as a lesbian it wouldn't bother you, well, you aren't the group I specified.

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#71 PeaceChild90
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I feel physically sick from some of the responses in this thread. First of all, "tranny" shouldn't be allowed in the title. Also, if you think it's acceptable to outright shoot a trans person for "tricking you", you're the one who need serious help.
 

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I feel physically sick from some of the responses in this thread. First of all, "tranny" shouldn't be allowed in the title. Also, if you think it's acceptable to outright shoot a trans person for "tricking you", you're the one who need serious help.
 

PeaceChild90

Apparently sexual assault is ok if it is against straight men.

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if you think it's acceptable to outright shoot a trans person for "tricking you", you're the one who need serious help.
 

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It's quite disturbing to see that so many people openly and shamelessly admit that they would murder trans* people they had sex with and didn't know were trans*. They seem to have no remorse whatsoever for having such a mindset.
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#74 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="PeaceChild90"]

if you think it's acceptable to outright shoot a trans person for "tricking you", you're the one who need serious help.
 

ghoklebutter

It's quite disturbing to see that so many people openly and shamelessly admit that they would murder trans* people they had sex with and didn't know were trans*. They seem to have no remorse whatsoever for having such a mindset.

What's disturbing is you say it is totally fine to sexually assault a straight man just because your trans.

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#75 ghoklebutter
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="PeaceChild90"]

if you think it's acceptable to outright shoot a trans person for "tricking you", you're the one who need serious help.
 

GummiRaccoon

It's quite disturbing to see that so many people openly and shamelessly admit that they would murder trans* people they had sex with and didn't know were trans*. They seem to have no remorse whatsoever for having such a mindset.

What's disturbing is you say it is totally fine to sexually assault a straight man just because your trans.

Straw man. Nowhere did I say that trans* people should be allowed to sexually assault anyone.
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="PeaceChild90"]

if you think it's acceptable to outright shoot a trans person for "tricking you", you're the one who need serious help.
 

GummiRaccoon

It's quite disturbing to see that so many people openly and shamelessly admit that they would murder trans* people they had sex with and didn't know were trans*. They seem to have no remorse whatsoever for having such a mindset.

What's disturbing is you say it is totally fine to sexually assault a straight man just because your trans.



What evidence do you have that this straight man was sexually assaulted? Even if he was, shooting her was not an acceptable response.

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] It's quite disturbing to see that so many people openly and shamelessly admit that they would murder trans* people they had sex with and didn't know were trans*. They seem to have no remorse whatsoever for having such a mindset.ghoklebutter

What's disturbing is you say it is totally fine to sexually assault a straight man just because your trans.

Straw man. Nowhere did I say that trans* people should be allowed to sexually assault anyone.

No, you're saying that trans shouldn't disclose their biological sex to potential partners.  I claim that is sexual assault.  If someone would feel violated from sexual contact, that is sexual assault.

 

I believe feminists even push the idea of enthusiastic consent.  If you think that a man would enthusiastically consent to having sex with a trans, then why not tell them?

 

You don't tell them because you know they want nothing to do with it.

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#78 PeaceChild90
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[QUOTE="PeaceChild90"]

if you think it's acceptable to outright shoot a trans person for "tricking you", you're the one who need serious help.
 

ghoklebutter

It's quite disturbing to see that so many people openly and shamelessly admit that they would murder trans* people they had sex with and didn't know were trans*. They seem to have no remorse whatsoever for having such a mindset.


It really is. I'm a trans man, and things like this remind me how much better I have it than trans women. The funny thing is, most of these guys have probably interacted with a trans person at least once in their life, but didn't realize it.

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] It's quite disturbing to see that so many people openly and shamelessly admit that they would murder trans* people they had sex with and didn't know were trans*. They seem to have no remorse whatsoever for having such a mindset.PeaceChild90

What's disturbing is you say it is totally fine to sexually assault a straight man just because your trans.



What evidence do you have that this straight man was sexually assaulted? Even if he was, shooting her was not an acceptable response.

Where did I say that was an acceptable response?  I just said that doing a bait and switch should be considered sexual assault.

 

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I could understand if he was mad, but shooting someone? a bit much?
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#81 Mink
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[QUOTE="Mink"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Tricking a hetero male to have sex with a trans is like slipping ghb into a girls drinks.

GummiRaccoon

Not really, I'm a lesbian, I wouldn't lose my mind if a transexual went down on me and I didn't know they weren't really a woman. But if someone drugged me and had their way with me, then I'm calling the cops.

 

You see that part where I said it was the equivalent for hetero males?  You then went on to say as a lesbian it wouldn't bother you, well, you aren't the group I specified.

Since you said girls, in the second part, figured I qualified because of my box. But I guess not so nevermind.
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="PeaceChild90"]

if you think it's acceptable to outright shoot a trans person for "tricking you", you're the one who need serious help.
 

PeaceChild90

It's quite disturbing to see that so many people openly and shamelessly admit that they would murder trans* people they had sex with and didn't know were trans*. They seem to have no remorse whatsoever for having such a mindset.


It really is. I'm a trans man, and things like this remind me how much better I have it than trans women. The funny thing is, most of these guys have probably interacted with a trans person at least once in their life, but didn't realize it.

Interesting. Until you said that, the only trans* people I knew on OT were trans* women. I wonder why trans* men seem less prominent here.
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#83 PeaceChild90
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[QUOTE="PeaceChild90"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

What's disturbing is you say it is totally fine to sexually assault a straight man just because your trans.

GummiRaccoon



What evidence do you have that this straight man was sexually assaulted? Even if he was, shooting her was not an acceptable response.

Where did I say that was an acceptable response?  I just said that doing a bait and switch should be considered sexual assault.

 


Should a woman have to disclose if she has naturally brown hair and had a breast enhancement? I might consider that deception.

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Ah America and your gun crimes.
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Mink"] Not really, I'm a lesbian, I wouldn't lose my mind if a transexual went down on me and I didn't know they weren't really a woman. But if someone drugged me and had their way with me, then I'm calling the cops.Mink

 

You see that part where I said it was the equivalent for hetero males?  You then went on to say as a lesbian it wouldn't bother you, well, you aren't the group I specified.

Since you said girls, in the second part, figured I qualified because of my box. But I guess not so nevermind.

 

I used one thing that makes a man feel incredibly violated and powerless and compared it to the female version.  You then said that the male version does not exist and said that you'd call the police for the female version.

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#86 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="PeaceChild90"]

What evidence do you have that this straight man was sexually assaulted? Even if he was, shooting her was not an acceptable response.

PeaceChild90

Where did I say that was an acceptable response?  I just said that doing a bait and switch should be considered sexual assault.

 


Should a woman have to disclose if she has naturally brown hair and had a breast enhancement? I might consider that deception.

Why not just get enthusiastic consent?  

 

Why do you feel it is ok to do something to hetero males that you know will make them feel violated?

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[QUOTE="Mink"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

 

You see that part where I said it was the equivalent for hetero males?  You then went on to say as a lesbian it wouldn't bother you, well, you aren't the group I specified.

GummiRaccoon

Since you said girls, in the second part, figured I qualified because of my box. But I guess not so nevermind.

 

I used one thing that makes a man feel incredibly violated and powerless and compared it to the female version.  You then said that the male version does not exist and said that you'd call the police for the female version.

So you're saying a lesbian couldn't feel "violated and powerless" in that situation? Are women a different species, are all men so strong and entitled to a feeling of superiority?

The deception is perfectly equivalent regardless of the gender that's being deceived. Being raped, against your will (sorry for the tautology, it's apparently necessary), is clearly different.

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Ah America and your gun crimes.SolidSnake35
I'd rather live in a country with gun crimes than one that locks up serial killers like Norways Breivik for a maximum of 21 years.
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#89 Mink
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[QUOTE="Mink"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

 

You see that part where I said it was the equivalent for hetero males?  You then went on to say as a lesbian it wouldn't bother you, well, you aren't the group I specified.

GummiRaccoon

Since you said girls, in the second part, figured I qualified because of my box. But I guess not so nevermind.

 

I used one thing that makes a man feel incredibly violated and powerless and compared it to the female version.  You then said that the male version does not exist and said that you'd call the police for the female version.

I just don't see drugging someone and violating them as the same as not disclosing what is in someone's pants when giving them head. Sometimes head is just head, man or woman sometimes they are not offering to let you check what they do or don't have downstairs. Sometimes it's an upstairs only romp.
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Ah America and your gun crimes.EagleEyedOne
I'd rather live in a country with gun crimes than one that locks up serial killers like Norways Breivik for a maximum of 21 years.

"On 24 August 2012 Breivik was convicted as charged and sentenced to 21 years of preventive detention in prison, which at the end can be repeatedly extended for 5 years as long as he is considered a threat to society.

Isn't that sort of the same deal with Charlie Manson? He gets hearings once in a while, says some crazy shit, and gets put back in his cell.

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Shooting goes a bit too far, but if I were in that position, I'd probably start throwing punches lol
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#92 PeaceChild90
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[QUOTE="PeaceChild90"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Where did I say that was an acceptable response?  I just said that doing a bait and switch should be considered sexual assault.

 

GummiRaccoon


Should a woman have to disclose if she has naturally brown hair and had a breast enhancement? I might consider that deception.

Why not just get enthusiastic consent?  

 

Why do you feel it is ok to do something to hetero males that you know will make them feel violated?


I am a heterosexual male. By the way, I don't consider myself a feminist either.

At what point are you considering this sexual assault? After a kiss, sex, or what? 

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[QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Ah America and your gun crimes.Inconsistancy

I'd rather live in a country with gun crimes than one that locks up serial killers like Norways Breivik for a maximum of 21 years.

"On 24 August 2012 Breivik was convicted as charged and sentenced to 21 years of preventive detention in prison, which at the end can be repeatedly extended for 5 years as long as he is considered a threat to society.

Isn't that sort of the same deal with Charlie Manson? He gets hearings once in a while, says some crazy shit, and gets put back in his cell.

Compare the living conditions of Manson and Breivik.
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Mink"] Since you said girls, in the second part, figured I qualified because of my box. But I guess not so nevermind.Inconsistancy

 

I used one thing that makes a man feel incredibly violated and powerless and compared it to the female version.  You then said that the male version does not exist and said that you'd call the police for the female version.

So you're saying a lesbian couldn't feel "violated and powerless" in that situation? Are women a different species, are all men so strong and entitled to a feeling of superiority?

The deception is perfectly equivalent regardless of the gender that's being deceived. Being raped, against your will, is clearly different.

I'm saying that you are discounting someone's personal experience simply because of their gender.  I am not telling you when to feel violated or not.  But you seem to feel like you can tell me when I feel violated.  You can't tell me the deception for me is the same as you would experience it because it isn't.  you wouldn't feel powerless and violated.  Just by that fact it makes it different.

If you are a hetero male, you never ever want to have any sexual contact with someone whose sex is not female.

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#95 PeaceChild90
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] It's quite disturbing to see that so many people openly and shamelessly admit that they would murder trans* people they had sex with and didn't know were trans*. They seem to have no remorse whatsoever for having such a mindset.ghoklebutter


It really is. I'm a trans man, and things like this remind me how much better I have it than trans women. The funny thing is, most of these guys have probably interacted with a trans person at least once in their life, but didn't realize it.

Interesting. Until you said that, the only trans* people I knew on OT were trans* women. I wonder why trans* men seem less prominent here.


I really only post here when I see idiotic things like this any more. That is kind of odd though. I didn't think I'd be the only one.

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#96 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

 

I used one thing that makes a man feel incredibly violated and powerless and compared it to the female version.  You then said that the male version does not exist and said that you'd call the police for the female version.

GummiRaccoon

So you're saying a lesbian couldn't feel "violated and powerless" in that situation? Are women a different species, are all men so strong and entitled to a feeling of superiority?

The deception is perfectly equivalent regardless of the gender that's being deceived. Being raped, against your will, is clearly different.

I'm saying that you are discounting someone's personal experience simply because of their gender.  I am not telling you when to feel violated or not.  But you seem to feel like you can tell me when I feel violated.  You can't tell me the deception for me is the same as you would experience it because it isn't.  you wouldn't feel powerless and violated.  Just by that fact it makes it different.

If you are a hetero male, you never ever want to have any sexual contact with someone whose sex is not female.

Cute blanket statement. If I couldn't tell, I'd honestly not care. 

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#97 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="PeaceChild90"]
Should a woman have to disclose if she has naturally brown hair and had a breast enhancement? I might consider that deception.

PeaceChild90

Why not just get enthusiastic consent?  

 

Why do you feel it is ok to do something to hetero males that you know will make them feel violated?


I am a heterosexual male. By the way, I don't consider myself a feminist either.

At what point are you considering this sexual assault? After a kiss, sex, or what? 

You are not heterosexual if you are fine with having sex with genetic males.

The sexual assault occurs whenever any sexual contact occurs under the deception.

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] So you're saying a lesbian couldn't feel "violated and powerless" in that situation? Are women a different species, are all men so strong and entitled to a feeling of superiority?

The deception is perfectly equivalent regardless of the gender that's being deceived. Being raped, against your will, is clearly different.

Inconsistancy

I'm saying that you are discounting someone's personal experience simply because of their gender.  I am not telling you when to feel violated or not.  But you seem to feel like you can tell me when I feel violated.  You can't tell me the deception for me is the same as you would experience it because it isn't.  you wouldn't feel powerless and violated.  Just by that fact it makes it different.

If you are a hetero male, you never ever want to have any sexual contact with someone whose sex is not female.

Cute blanket statement. If I couldn't tell, I'd honestly not care. 

You're reading comprehension is terrible.  I am not saying that you'd care, I am saying that I care.  Why can't you understand that?  I do not want some woman with a penis to touch my genitals ever under any circumstances.  I find anyone that tries to access my genitals under false pretenses to be a sexual predator.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Ah America and your gun crimes.EagleEyedOne
I'd rather live in a country with gun crimes than one that locks up serial killers like Norways Breivik for a maximum of 21 years.

I hate agreeing with trolls...but i fully endorse that statement.

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If you're asking I have to assume you think the person was justified.

Never ceases to amaze me at how fvcked in the head you are, Bucked.