How UK gamers will react to Assassin's Creed 3, and the anti-British theme.

I was curious as to how much Assassin's Creed 3's American Revolution setting, and likely portrayal of the English as the bad guys, would affect their decision to buy the game. IF it turns out that the new Assassin's mission is to just "kill the redcoats", would it turn you off of the game? Or would you not care? It could have a negative backlash in England.

Why on God's earth would i care?

And anyway, why would a Native American want to kill redcoats?

Isn't the main character a Native American? So ideally everyone is the enemy, not just the British.

Just because the Native American is killing a redcoat on the boxart doesn't necessarily mean we'll be siding with the Americans. I certainly haven't seen any info otherwise to say that the game is going to be anti-British.

Just because the Native American is killing a redcoat on the boxart doesn't necessarily mean we'll be siding with the Americans. I certainly haven't seen any info otherwise to say that the game is going to be anti-British.

Vari3ty

My sentiments exactly. People should stop rushing to conclusions or making wrong judgments until we hear the facts first.

I don't see why anyone would react negatively. It's set around events that really happened. Plenty of forms of media have tackled stuff like this, and without any sort of outcry, I think. So why would this be an exception?

I think the answer is obvious. We're going to have to march on Grosvenor Square and sack your embassy.

Unlike americans who would BAN a anti-american game, the english simply do not care :). If anything sometimes when playing WW2 games it was fun being ze germanz because they had some pretty awesome guns ;).

Games should be about having fun and relaxing imo. When people start making them politically motivated or twisting their words etc it becomes less of a game and more like real life. not cool.

The British are portrayed as bad guys in all sorts of films and games, someone has to be the enemy. As long as it's done well I couldn't care less myself.

I do not see why anyone would get offended by a video game, it is just a video game after all.HadronVulture

Even i'd get slightly offended if it was too far.

If I was British I couldn't care less. Every country has made their share of crap so..

It was a couple centuries ago. I wouldn't think anyone would take offense.

As far as Native Americans are concerned, I guess it depends on which tribe the main character is from. While some tribes sided with the colonists, most allied with the British, seeing the colonists continually encroach on their land. Still others played both sides. So I suppose it's up in the air.

I think you'd have to be really lame to let a game theme get to you. I'm British and I know I couldn't care less if I played it.

Unlike americans who would BAN a anti-american game, the english simply do not care :). If anything sometimes when playing WW2 games it was fun being ze germanz because they had some pretty awesome guns ;).

o0squishy0o

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I'm failing to see the connection of this installment being anti-British due to the highlighting of the Revolutionary War time period. I also don't see how you could seriously stand behind the notion that America would ban an anti-American game.

If you think about it, both the colonies and the British had their fair share of good and bad guys - Benedict Arnold being one of the more notorious from the Continental Army. Plus, France, Spain and the Dutch Republic were involved during this historic event so I wouldn't be surprised to see some twists in the story from all parties involved. It should be very interesting.

I didn't realize you play as a Native American, but after finding that out, I'd be surprised if your main enemy is the British. I'm actually really interested in playing as a Native American because there aren't a lot of games that focus on them, and I'm hoping they depict them in a positive light. Though, I do kind of agree with a previous poster who said how the story could be about the founding fathers being part of some type of conspiracy or something along those lines. Then before you know it AC4 will have you playing as Nicolas Cage from National Treasure.

I didn't realize you play as a Native American, but after finding that out, I'd be surprised if your main enemy is the British. I'm actually really interested in playing as a Native American because there aren't a lot of games that focus on them, and I'm hoping they depict them in a positive light. Though, I do kind of agree with a previous poster who said how the story could be about the founding fathers being part of some type of conspiracy or something along those lines. Then before you know it AC4 will have you playing as Nicolas Cage from National Treasure.

blueboxdoctor

It'll probably be like the other games in that both sides have templars amongst their numbers.

And even if the bad guys are all British, so what? I'm English, and honestly I dont really care. We're the bad guys in loads of things.

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I didn't realize you play as a Native American, but after finding that out, I'd be surprised if your main enemy is the British. I'm actually really interested in playing as a Native American because there aren't a lot of games that focus on them, and I'm hoping they depict them in a positive light. Though, I do kind of agree with a previous poster who said how the story could be about the founding fathers being part of some type of conspiracy or something along those lines. Then before you know it AC4 will have you playing as Nicolas Cage from National Treasure.

LoG-Sacrament

Not the Wicker Man, he never takes on a bad role, how could you think that

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="blueboxdoctor"]

I didn't realize you play as a Native American, but after finding that out, I'd be surprised if your main enemy is the British. I'm actually really interested in playing as a Native American because there aren't a lot of games that focus on them, and I'm hoping they depict them in a positive light. Though, I do kind of agree with a previous poster who said how the story could be about the founding fathers being part of some type of conspiracy or something along those lines. Then before you know it AC4 will have you playing as Nicolas Cage from National Treasure.

blueboxdoctor

Not the Wicker Man, he never takes on a bad role, how could you think that

I'm Scottish and I don't really care that Britain is the enemy. I doubt there will be a single Scot in the game anyway.

I don't see why that would matter to anyone.

I wouldn't mind playing a game where the US is the bad guys. (Actually pretty sure I've played several.)

lol its a video game i couldnt give a ****

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People in the UK don't care for the most part. Ubisoft aren't stupid, for the small (almost non-existent) quantity of sales they lose from offended UK gamers will be outweighed by the potentially greater US sales. Patriotism is generally more pronounced in the US.

Also, we don't know enough about the game to determine it's theme in it's full yet.

British aren't the only enemy in the game. The Americans are too.

Templars are everywhere...

Ubisoft are French, that explains it.

Why would anyone care? It's not even the same era, and it's not like you will be killing people based on real civilians.

This is like KMX's thread.

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seanmcloughlin

I think overall the british red coats have always made good enemies in films and games alike. Take the patriot and braveheart for example. Loved both of them. I just hope they don't make a mockery of them in the game. I would like atleast a few historical facts to be mentioned along the way, for example the british fight 3 other wars in the process of the revolution.

Didn't see these. Even though they're really blurry, they give a good idea of what the game will be like. Minus the graphics.

BranKetra

Actually, the game runs on a new version of the Anvil engine, so that's new too, right?

I think overall the british red coats have always made good enemies in films and games alike. Take the patriot and braveheart for example. Loved both of them. I just hope they don't make a mockery of them in the game. I would like atleast a few historical facts to be mentioned along the way, for example the british fight 3 other wars in the process of the revolution.

cryceaye5

What?

on a related topic...how would an american feel about been protrayed as the bad guys in a movie. for example in the movie master and commander the bad guys were french. but in the fight that movie was based on it was an american ship instead of french. would americans have been offended if it was an american ship? they changed it to french as they thought either the american audience would be greatly offended or would just end up rooting for the bad guys in that movie. we havent really seen media where americans are shown as the enemy. at the moment the closest is more the good guys who occasionally screw up.osan0

I can't remember what movie it was but it was a WW2 movie and they pretty much changed historical facts just to make the Americans looked like even bigger heroes.

But its film, what are you going to do eh?

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I think overall the british red coats have always made good enemies in films and games alike. Take the patriot and braveheart for example. Loved both of them. I just hope they don't make a mockery of them in the game. I would like atleast a few historical facts to be mentioned along the way, for example the british fight 3 other wars in the process of the revolution.

Ilovegames1992

What?

My mistake.

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Didn't see these. Even though they're really blurry, they give a good idea of what the game will be like. Minus the graphics.

Metamania

Actually, the game runs on a new version of the Anvil engine, so that's new too, right?

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

Didn't see these. Even though they're really blurry, they give a good idea of what the game will be like. Minus the graphics.

BranKetra

Actually, the game runs on a new version of the Anvil engine, so that's new too, right?

That's true, but like you said, the game won't be as blurry as what the picture suggests. Plus, the scan they did probably wasn't that good anyway. So I have full confidence that Ubisoft will make the best out of this new Anvil graphic version for the game. Plus, three years in development is long enough. Games like Brotherhood and Revolution were meant to keep us busy for the last few years while this was being worked on and from all the new information that's been revealed, it's a safe bet that Ubisoft is keeping the core elements while giving the series a fresh spin in things.

[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Metamania"]

Actually, the game runs on a new version of the Anvil engine, so that's new too, right?

Metamania

That's true, but like you said, the game won't be as blurry as what the picture suggests. Plus, the scan they did probably wasn't that good anyway. So I have full confidence that Ubisoft will make the best out of this new Anvil graphic version for the game. Plus, three years in development is long enough. Games like Brotherhood and Revolution were meant to keep us busy for the last few years while this was being worked on and from all the new information that's been revealed, it's a safe bet that Ubisoft is keeping the core elements while giving the series a fresh spin in things.

Revelations*

Although Revelations is a damn good game in its own right.

[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Metamania"]

Actually, the game runs on a new version of the Anvil engine, so that's new too, right?

Metamania

That's true, but like you said, the game won't be as blurry as what the picture suggests. Plus, the scan they did probably wasn't that good anyway. So I have full confidence that Ubisoft will make the best out of this new Anvil graphic version for the game. Plus, three years in development is long enough. Games like Brotherhood and Revolution were meant to keep us busy for the last few years while this was being worked on and from all the new information that's been revealed, it's a safe bet that Ubisoft is keeping the core elements while giving the series a fresh spin in things.

The story is amazing, but i've ended up getting lost in it. Like the whole alien race thing. That plotline, i've either forgotten what that was about if it was fleshed out in Brotherhood or its just been abandoned. Whatever happens i'm sure it will all come to an end in Desmond's timeline.

on a related topic...how would an american feel about been protrayed as the bad guys in a movie.osan0

Well, in a way that can be answered....ask an American Southerner about how they feel about being what is basically the bad guys (or at least on the wrong side of the issue in terms of Slavery) in Civil War era movies like Glory.

Given the wild statements of some people, it's clear that even in the 21st century some people have a sore spot with how history turned out, though that might not be the reflective opinion of an entire demographic.

Hell, we might not even have to go back that far.....one can wonder how some people in the deep South feel about most civil-rights era films like The Help and Mississippi Burning...again, an issue that History pretty much now judges as having a good side and a bad side.....so, like the OT asked about the British and ACIII, could we ask does someone in the deep south avoids those films?

Supposedly Tarantino upcoming film, Django Unchained, is already causing a stir in some circles as being "anti-south" because it's about a runaway slave who becomes a bounty hunter who kills evil plantation owners.

...and even generally, it's not like American's haven't been portrayed in a negative light before in their own films, look at some Vietnam War era films where even though it's told from an American perspective, sometimes the Americans aren't portrayed as the "good guys".

...or even war films that are told from the other side's perspective, like Clint Eastwood's Letters from Iwo Jima.

I would think that most people don't really care....and the sub-set that carry a sore spot and illogical grudge that do are probably the type who could never be open-minded about films and games in the first place.

I don't see why anyone would react negatively. It's set around events that really happened. Plenty of forms of media have tackled stuff like this, and without any sort of outcry, I think. So why would this be an exception?

c_rake

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I don't see why anyone would react negatively. It's set around events that really happened. Plenty of forms of media have tackled stuff like this, and without any sort of outcry, I think. So why would this be an exception?

WAJ

The main character is supposedly half English, half Mohawk.