I'd been using an LG LCD monitor for years without any issue but after just a couple weeks of doing my computing on a Sony LCD TV there's some burn-in, and the weird part is that it wasn't the Windows taskbar that did but rather a sticky note... So I'm wondering if TV's are more susceptible to burn-in (LCD only), or maybe it's because my TV is an older model than my monitor?

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So, have you folks seen the Thermalright HR-02 macho?

It's a enourmus aircooler with some great feutures.

6 copper heatpipes.

Enourmus amount of aluminium areal, actually a whole 2.5 times more than a large tower cooler as the 212+!

TY-140 PWM fan. (140mm 600-1300rpm)

Nickel plated baseplate with a perfect flat pressure surface against the CPU. (non- direct contact.)

Mounting plates for all the current relevant sockets. (s775, s1155, s1156, s1336, AM2/AM3+,s949)

Clever design, the heasink wont infringe on the ramslots since it's design alow it to strech further to the opposite side. (the cooler is made so that the front of the cooler is shorter than the back.)

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The Heatsink is actually a HR-02 (thats one of the only passive heatsinks capable to take the new 125w CPU's) but with some few missing feutures.

It's not delivered with a large screwdriver, It's mounting system differ and the heatpipes isn't plated with shiny nickel.

But insted of that they ship the HR-02 macho with a 140mm PWM controlled silent TY-140, thats a neat tradeoff as this cooler is selling for half the HR-02 price!

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What about the performance then?

It's one of the only HSF that can take on the closed Liquid cooling loops as the Corsair hydro series or the Antec WC coolers and head out as a TIE or even a WINNER!

But performing better than *as an example H50 and the coolit coolers isn't the best part about it, the macho's fan is actually dead silent even when your in the eight hour of Prime95 testing, the corsair or antec will kill your ears but the macho stay silent.

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What about the price then?

Selling $40 sound like a great deal compared to the other solutions that cannot match the macho.

The only problem is to find it in store.

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Drawbacks, it's mounting system is tricky, because the HR-02 was shiped with a custom philips screwdriver (a rather large/long one) with a macho you'll need to use your own.

This cooler is enourmus, forget about fitting this in your mini-case, midi or fulltower is strongly adviced.

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The HR-02 macho is a great option to the closed WC/LC loops and will cost less, and for you who want a silent but high capasity cooler this is one of your only options.

1. I am a she

2. I never misquoted you, except in situations where I stated that I was unsure if it was you who said something regarding the i5-2500 o.O"

3. Are you serious

@Lord, nice shirt :3

Back on topic: a little more cpu power still will never hurt :3

Mewi

Again your logic is flawed, for a multitude of reasons. Firstly passmark is a valid benchmarking website, so you can't dismiss it that easily. "Gaming" is irrelevant to benchmarking because benchmarks should always test every aspect of a processor. Furthermore why is your logic flawed? You assume the person is only running one game, you assume the person is only going to run one application at the same time, you assume way to much. Computers aren't iphone 1's, they have multitasking capabilities for a reason. Your attacking of passmark.com is unwarranted and doesn't make any sense.

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"Tomshardware" is in there...

Not with 100% assurance here, but single sample websites ( since I havn't looked at every website you gave ) are usually wrong/exagerate and inflate based on personal interest/single build structures and push a level of ignorance amongst game system enthusiasts.

To clarify that ignorance, you stated ( I believe it was you anyway ) that the 'i5-2500' is "twice as fast as the AMD Phenom X6 1100T" which is simply beyond fact. Or maybe you said 1090T? either way it is irrelevant, because it is still wrong lol.

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In sevral post you switch place between the aouthor of the post and yourself, I would like to get credit or being bash'ed for what I actually type down and not the thing your wenting in your opinion!

Because our directions are the exsact opposite in this matter you should fix it.

lol ^^" maybe you guys need to know what you are talking about before making sweeping claims of gaming expertise ;o There is a difference between building a computer and reading stats from a few websites, and knowing computers and where are the right places to look is.Mewi

You do need to tone yourself down alot and start with reading what we're trying to educate you.

We have all been trying to reson with you and you still don't get it, and now your insulting us.

To the other in this thread. Make sure to note that Mewi put's things in his qoutes witch I have never written.

He write what he wan't and put a qoute over swehunt.

I can guarantee that i will only be using this rig for gaming. Most likely Only Star Wars The Old Republic and maybe Wow. I have a MBP that has all the software i need for work situations. I really will only be using this rig for gaming only, not even music or internet browsing.Mshxi420

Then go ahead, the build has no serious flaws if you get that HD6850 over the 6790 and the 965BE to a 955BE, hold back just a bit on the PSU but stay with a good brand.

Starwars and WOW should play brilliant.

Lol............................................................. Sorry but you are wrong.

Mewi

ALL the 50-60 reviews alivalable on the web made of the Thuban CPU lineup are wrong and you're right, a Thuban is THAT much better over a ph2 x4 while playing games?

It's you against the whole HW comunity/review/testers, and not just "me".

And yes, the AM3+ will be able to take bulldozer while AM3 wont, thats comfirmed a halfyear ago by AMD witch released the 990FX chipset's capable of both SLI and CF, there are a large variety of AM3+ capable boards out, some of the currect AM3 boards are also able to be AM3+ compatible by a BIOS upgrade. (mainly the more expencive chipsets as the 890/880's)

I am honestly surpriced about your stubborness, even after all the benchmarks alivalable by a simple google you keep spoutin that Thuban is that much better for gaming. :?

Wheres the logic in that?

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Mewi

Again your logic is flawed, for a multitude of reasons. Firstly passmark is a valid benchmarking website, so you can't dismiss it that easily. "Gaming" is irrelevant to benchmarking because benchmarks should always test every aspect of a processor.

Furthermore why is your logic flawed? You assume the person is only running one game, you assume the person is only going to run one application at the same time, you assume way to much. Computers aren't iphone 1's, they have multitasking capabilities for a reason.

Your attacking of passmark.com is unwarranted and doesn't make any sense.

[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]6 core AMDs arent great for gaming, a 4 core is just as good. But lets be honest if you dont go Intel at this point you have a problem, Intel kicks AMDs ass right now.V4LENT1NE

Now you are adding overclocked to the equasion? I think you are trolling or attempting to justify your previous statements, IN what universe do you think Phenom II X6 1100T doesn't beat your 4 core processor? and the website is called passmark perhaps you are familiar with it? Even the highest marked x4 processor is still nearly 1600 points below the 1100

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1) Go to ANY site witch has a CPU gaming benchmark.

2) Compare the 1090T to the 955BE (Both are clock'ed @ 3.2Ghz)

3) Look a ANY GAME benchmark and think about it.

4) Come back here and tell me what you found.

The 1100T is ofc. better than an X4 in various tasks other than gaming but during games two if it's six cores will mostly remain inactive, resultin it performing as a ph2 X4.

Kind as I am trying to educate you i'll help with the links, Anandtech 1090T vs. 955BE say hello! (again 3.2Ghz CPU's)

For those who dont want to click the link to anandtech.

In these games witch were the only games they did test.

Crysis warhead.

Left 4 dead.

Farcry 2

Fallout 3

The thuban 3.2Ghz and the phenom x4 3.2Ghz perform identical, a cuple frames differ withing the margin or error.

Who cares even a little about passmark? :lol:

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You seem to assume that the available hardware is always available and the price tag is always the same. They are very jumpy and the price with X6 Phenom saved me almost 200$s in hardware vs a marginal CPU benefit. Regardless your argument can be faulty.Mewi

What argument? eh, your post makes no sense?

Your debating for a x6 and saying how much better it is than a x4 for games, well it isn't. The x6 is better when you need heavily multithreaded task's (as in synthetic benchmarks) but as of now no games benefit from more than 4 fast running threads.

Because a truck can move more dirt than a pickup don't say its going to run faster on the highway, are you with me?

The performance is 2k points above in benchmarks how is it "Not better for games"? You are the one who isn't making sense lol.