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#1 swehunt
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You seem to assume that the available hardware is always available and the price tag is always the same. They are very jumpy and the price with X6 Phenom saved me almost 200$s in hardware vs a marginal CPU benefit. Regardless your argument can be faulty.Mewi

What argument? eh, your post makes no sense?

Your debating for a x6 and saying how much better it is than a x4 for games, well it isn't. The x6 is better when you need heavily multithreaded task's (as in synthetic benchmarks) but as of now no games benefit from more than 4 fast running threads.

Because a truck can move more dirt than a pickup don't say its going to run faster on the highway, are you with me?

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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="evildead6789"] Yes that's correct the 955 be is more than sufficient for gaming but if you upgrade it seems silly to go for an x6 phenom instead of the sandy bridge because the sandy bridge will have a much longer lifespan + your pc works much faster.evildead6789

How can you be sure the Sandybridge outlive the bulldozer? It's not even released yet. The X6 has to be the worst option for a upgrade why would anyone in their right mind get5 that over the bulldozer?

Well the bulldozer hasn't come out yet, and we don't know what it's price tag will be or it's speed. If you can wait then wait, i'm just speaking of the situation as it is now.

According to the early testing we've seen (leak'ed) it perform a bit better than the 2600k. AMD is fully clear with what the launchprice will be and thats the price where the intel sandybridge is at. Bulldozer is about 3 weeks away as we speak, nope we do not know the performance, but if the price is a indication it'll perform like the sandybridge while possible being ton's better handling heavily multithreaded tasks. The AM3 (witch the X6 will be the best CPU's for) is a dead end but don't comfuse it with the AM3+. (Bulldozer)
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[QUOTE="evildead6789"][QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="evildead6789"] clock for clock the sandy bridge is almost twice as fast as the phenom series, the phenom x6 1100 with 3.3 ghz even looses from the i5-2300 which has only 4 cores and runs at 2.8 ghz. 3.3 ghz x 6 = 19.8 ghz, 2.8 ghz x 4= 11.2 ghz. Since games don't use more than 2-4 cores i'm saying the sandy bridge for games is almost twice as fast here are the number http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/3DMark-Vantage-Overall-Performance,2416.html

..That is if your running a HD6990, CPU bottlenecks are overestimated, they gennerally only happen when your running SLI or dualgraphics, for us rest were not likely to be as limited. Even if a product is twice as fast don't say you'll get twice the performance. In general a ph2 955BE wont limmit the graphic performance of a highend card in most games, so even if a 2500k is twice as fast they will perform the same given a HD6870. (as a xmple.)

Yes that's correct the 955 be is more than sufficient for gaming but if you upgrade it seems silly to go for an x6 phenom instead of the sandy bridge because the sandy bridge will have a much longer lifespan + your pc works much faster.

How can you be sure the Sandybridge outlive the bulldozer? It's not even released yet. The X6 has to be the worst option for a upgrade why would anyone in their right mind get5 that over the bulldozer?
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#4 swehunt
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6 core AMDs arent great for gaming, a 4 core is just as good. But lets be honest if you dont go Intel at this point you have a problem, Intel kicks AMDs ass right now.V4LENT1NE
Hes buying a AM3+ when the PH2 955BE isn't enough to game on he can upgrade for a bulldozer, as of now a 955 does fine, particular if he's on a tight budget.
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[QUOTE="evildead6789"] clock for clock the sandy bridge is almost twice as fast as the phenom series, the phenom x6 1100 with 3.3 ghz even looses from the i5-2300 which has only 4 cores and runs at 2.8 ghz. 3.3 ghz x 6 = 19.8 ghz, 2.8 ghz x 4= 11.2 ghz. Since games don't use more than 2-4 cores i'm saying the sandy bridge for games is almost twice as fast here are the number http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/3DMark-Vantage-Overall-Performance,2416.html

..That is if your running a HD6990, CPU bottlenecks are overestimated, they gennerally only happen when your running SLI or dualgraphics, for us rest were not likely to be as limited. Even if a product is twice as fast don't say you'll get twice the performance. In general a ph2 955BE wont limmit the graphic performance of a highend card in most games, so even if a 2500k is twice as fast they will perform the same given a HD6870. (as a xmple.)
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#6 swehunt
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The 955 has a benchmark of3,962 the 1100T has a benchmark of6,293

That is a difference of 2,300, how does that equate to "not a noticable difference" or not a benefit?

Edit: and that number was a price difference between the intel you mentioned and the AMD phenom II processor I mentioned... obviously :S

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The Intel CPU was never debated in this thread, it's not interesting if your on a really tight budget, neither is the X6. Start by telling what type of numbers your comparing, the title to this thread clerly states "GAMING" and the synthetic benchmarks you had those numbers from isn't from gaming benchmarks I can tell you that much. Nope, the gaming difference is nonexistent, look and any chart.
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The 'k' is the unlocked processor version,Whereas the other intel chips are locke or harder to overclock I believe.

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Correction. The only OCable sandybrige is the "k" verions, the k verions might give you a 2GHz! OC but the non "k" verions might not handle 50Mhz OC.

EDIT: Further you'll need a P67 or a Z68 chipset motherboard to actually be able to overclock.

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#8 swehunt
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Techpowerup seems like they're the only one manage to get such big of a difference.

Anandtech stated that "The 5670 is a good enough replacement for the 9800 GT" in their review.

TomsHw calls the 8800GT "the slightly-faster" in their HD5670 review.

HW canucks says this in they conclution. "$100 price of the 9800 GT looks particularly interesting in terms of raw performance but the HD 5670 1GB is still the clear winner in terms of features and future compatibility"

In all of these reviews they opt. for the HD5670, clearly the difference between the two cards is negliable or so nonexsistent that it's even a matter of the feutures the cards bring, sure the 8800GT is a tiny bit faster but it's so little that these three sites choose to reccomend the HD5670 OVER the 8800GT.

So there you have it, theyre very much alike in the performance, well just look at these charts if your still not clear about it.

They are infact the two closest performing cards in this segment, the HD5670 generally being a tiny bit behind but it's so little that it don't matter.

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#9 swehunt
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[QUOTE="evildead6789"][QUOTE="Mewi"]

Go for the 6850, ditch the x4 phenom II and go for either 1100T X6 Phenom II or 1090T Phenom II

Mewi

The x6 cpu's are way too expensive for what they are worth for the same price you can buy i5-2500 with motherboard that's almost twice as fast.

Well that is 20-40$s more Plus the other components that could be more depending on what that person needs. Besides that fact, I was trying to stick with AMD? and Twice as fast? don't fool yourself there lol.

Intel Core i5-2500 @ 3.30GHz 6,572 $209.99*

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 6,293 $189.99*

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 6,050 $169.99*

The main issue is that he isn't going to see anykind of benefit buying that X6 over the cheaper X4 while running games.

You'll find a 955BE going for $100-120 how is that only $40 more for the 1090Thuban?

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#10 swehunt
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[QUOTE="Jawacopoko"]okay thanks so much, alright SO. diablo 3, guild wars 2, ultra high graphics , lagless. I would like a company to do it for me. B-Com computers. can you guys make me the best build for $1000 dollars? including a big new monitor, i'm thinking 24+ inches? thanks so much.

Seems like your asking if i can be done? Well yes, you'll get a much more capable PC for alot less including a 24" monitor. 2500k MSI or Gigabyte P67/Z68 Motherboard. 8GB ram, 4GB would do but because it's cheap why not going 8GB? GTX560TI WIN 7 64bit Fractial Design R2 case. Corsair TX650 PSU Nice monitor 24" That PC would rape the one you thought about sideways.